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"Dark Forces: The Truth About What Happened in Benghazi" LIVE THREAD CSPAN 2 3 PM ET.
CSPAN 2 BookTV ^ | June 24, 2014 | Kenneth Timmerman

Posted on 09/07/2014 9:51:33 AM PDT by morphing libertarian

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today I will try to explain this author’s point of view as he describes his book.

Sounds good. Thanks for the thread!

21 posted on 09/07/2014 11:54:22 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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glad to have the time. I was impressed by him last week.


22 posted on 09/07/2014 11:55:29 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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1 minute


23 posted on 09/07/2014 11:58:01 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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coming to us on CSPAN 2 from David Horowitz org luncheon

Benghazi great bravery in country but great cowardice in DC:

Clinton and Obama


24 posted on 09/07/2014 12:01:44 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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Clinton very engaged and very wrong.

Facts been misrepresented.

Quiet evening in Benghazi.

Police drove up sat there and left. 2 minutes later attack started 9:42 20-30 armed men started planned attack. Not demonstrating. Murder in mind. Knew where to find victims.

4 unarmed security at the gate. 2 fled 2 caught and opened the gate.

Alert sounded by US security officer loud speakers and went to CIA annex 1 mile away.

Can’t get all names down.


25 posted on 09/07/2014 12:04:27 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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TY goes to chief of CIA basis. He said don’t go, hold in place. Need more fire power. call 17th Brigade who we have contracted for security.

Jihadis get inside compound. Security officer retreated to sea behind iron bars. Computers in open area.

10 more minutes Ty tells chief “Let’s go.” Chief said no, hold in place. Another 10 minutes. Jihadis found del and started fires.

Ty says we gotta go. Chief said no. Ty ignores order and gets his group together. Took 5 minutes to travel 1 miles.

Author concludes everyone could have been saved if quick response.


26 posted on 09/07/2014 12:08:23 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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17th brigade stops Ty’s group at roadblock and holds them for 10 minutes.

Flames were high and hot.

They tried to find Stevens and Smith but couldn’t.

Drawing fire they went into the Villa, under enemy fire.

Found Smith dead, but not ambassador.

90 minutes in.

Ty says lets defend against gathering Jihadis in the St.


27 posted on 09/07/2014 12:10:35 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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Diplomatic security never fired shot.

Ty group goes back to CIA annex after they can’t find Stevens. They take Smith’s body.

4:05 PM Washington time SD sends out cable, conciliate under attack.

All SD communications mention attack. No mention of demonstration.

5 PM Pinetta goes to WH and meets with Hamm who is in DC. CIA has eyes overhead (drone?).


28 posted on 09/07/2014 12:13:26 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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President told SOD and Pinetta, I have a fundraiser tomorrow in Vegas, ou handle it. Be in touch with my staff. No conversation after that between OB and DOD.

Hamm never calls president (he could have sent military response from Sicily?). President never gave a stand up order. It was keep it quiet.

Clinton 2 hours in, Mark Thompson, SD familiar with embassy security, suggests they employee foreign response team, interagency group. 1-2 hours away by plane. On call 24-7. Clintons says no, we don’t need them. Don’t call them.

At hearing clinton says 10 PM phone call to Obama to coordinate. 10:08 DC, 4:08 before Ty and partner were killed, Clinton “Some have sought to attribute this to material posted on the internet. No excuse for denigrating religions and no excuse to have violent demonstration.

SD and DOD say violent attack prior to her statement. She say demonstration because of Video.

100 e-mails total. Don’t know where she got or how she made up the story.

Original spin was invented by Clinton that night. Obama AWOL. Why, too close to election, they didn’t want anything to interfere with narrative AQ was defeated by Obama.


29 posted on 09/07/2014 12:20:58 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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Original Sin of Benghazi was March 2011. OB authorized CIA and other agencies to provide covert assistance to those opposing Qadaffi.

Qatar and others were to gel rebels. OB authorized stinger missiles to come in through Kuwait and taken into Lybia. Qadaffi’s intelligence discovered arms bing shipped.

French stopped shipment in Chad and called US. US said let them go shad.


30 posted on 09/07/2014 12:23:33 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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go ahead.

Missiles never delivered to Lybian rebels.

US Military helicopter hit July 2012 in Afghan. Scrap of metal found with serial number of stinger checked out to Qatari military.

Missiles went missing. Stevens sent to Benghazi to recoup missiles.


31 posted on 09/07/2014 12:25:56 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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Clinton announced she was giving extra money to Lybians to cover loss of missiles.

Stevens knew all Lybian rebels.

IRAN:

We were told An Sal Sharia. They were hired by the Iranians to assist in the attack by crowding around outside the consulate. The mortar attacks were excellently executed by Revolutionary Guard from Iran.

Shipment was publicized because the arms were discovered in Turkey.

Hizbollah and Irtan spreading money around Lybia for months.

Source: author interviewed many Iranian defectors.

Iran sponsored and participated in the attack on the consulate. Goal, stop arms shipments and create chaos in Lybia. Planned by one of the top 10 RG planned the attack. Carried out by a colonel who was aiding hizbollah in Lebanon.


32 posted on 09/07/2014 12:32:29 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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Iran 9-11 court case in NY proved that Iran was involved in financing 9-11 attack.

CIA told them to not press case. They couldn’t believe Iran would work with Sunnis. Iran trained and provided weapons to sunnis in Gaza, Afghan, and Lebanon.

Past Asst to director of Natl Intell said the government eventually change their analysis.

Iran is diabolical, skilled and determined to destroy America.

Q+A


33 posted on 09/07/2014 12:36:01 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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ISIS bombing is weak and light. As opposed to usual thousands or sorties.

a year ago everybody in northern Iraq knew ISIS was coming. They already had advance people in the villages and cities. They had waited until we evacuated,


34 posted on 09/07/2014 12:38:50 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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US bombing of ISIS


35 posted on 09/07/2014 12:39:23 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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first time in 1600 years no mass said in cathedral in Mozul in June.


36 posted on 09/07/2014 12:39:57 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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Old saying The Strong Horse Commands Respect.” However the strong horse is no longer there.

Benghazi was a response to the perception of US weakness.

Many groups in ME want to murder Americans.


37 posted on 09/07/2014 12:41:43 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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If we don’t destroy ISIS, Iraq ill be small Kurd area, Sunnis (Isis), and Iran (Shiite).

Turkey no longer strong US ally.

Erogan turning Turkey into islamic state. Broken cooperation with Israel.

Turkey working with Qatar to help Hamas, Isil, and Syrian rebels.

Israel will survive the worst of US presidents.


38 posted on 09/07/2014 12:44:49 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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BTTT
39 posted on 09/07/2014 12:45:07 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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Only problem I have with this is the compound at which Stevens was at was NOT A CONSULATE!
I wish these people would stop describing it as such,it was a home in a residential neighborhood running guns and jihadis to Syria with weapons from quadaffis arsenal.
It was operating under the radar,they did not want to be noticed.


40 posted on 09/07/2014 12:46:30 PM PDT by ballplayer
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