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Russia Lies About Invading Ukraine as It Invades Ukraine
TDB ^ | 28 Aug 14 | Anna Nemtsova 

Posted on 08/29/2014 5:46:23 AM PDT by elhombrelibre

As Russia troops and tanks make an apparent bid to open the land route to annexed Crimea, discontent is growing in the motherland about the obvious but oft-denied war in Ukraine.

MOSCOW, Russia – Where U.S. President Barack Obama and German Chancellor Angela Merkel have failed to make Russian President Vladimir Putin acknowledge his ever-more-overt invasion of Ukraine and think about pulling back, Valentina Melnikova, the head of Russia’s famous Soldiers’ Mothers Committee, might just have a chance.

Early Thursday morning, Melnikova started getting phone calls from Russian army bosses. All of them, from the deputy defense minister to the paratrooper division commanders, wanted to meet with the great matriarch of the Russian military. She had accused the entire high command, along with Commander-in-Chief Vladimir Putin of invading Ukraine and of committing a crime against Russian citizens by sending Russian soldiers to "the bloody battlefields" without declaring the war, without signing legal papers with the servicemen, without letting Russian mothers know where exactly their drafted sons ended up dying.

The day before, Russian servicemen were fighting shoulder to shoulder with pro-Russian separatists in Novoazovsk, a strategic port city on the Russian border. By taking over Novoazovsk, the separatists cleared the way for more servicemen to pour into Ukraine. “According to our expert analyses,” said Melnikova – and few organizations have better information than hers – “ there are over 10,000 Russian soldiers fighting in Ukraine today."

(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: novoazovsk; putin; russia; ukraine
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Putin's not even fooling his own people anymore. Eventually some of his fans here will wake up.

“Russian public opinion, in fact, does not support the idea of invasion: the latest polls by the Moscow Public Opinion Foundation showed that only 5 per cent of Russians want the regular army to fight in Ukraine. But not many Russian citizens are ready to demonstrate against the war.”

1 posted on 08/29/2014 5:46:23 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre

Nice to see that Baghdad Bob is working again.


2 posted on 08/29/2014 5:51:20 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Your Daddy Was Drunk and Your Mama Was Lonely" - http://youtu.be/4HYy62qiOwA)
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To: elhombrelibre

Putin has learned how to lie well from obama, the LIAR in chief. I’m rather surprised putin hasn’t blamed his invasion on Bush.


3 posted on 08/29/2014 5:52:56 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: freeangel
I’m rather surprised putin hasn’t blamed his invasion on Bush.

Indirectly, I think he has. I've read he was upset and felt threatened by NATO's continued expansion eastward after the breakup of the old USSR.

4 posted on 08/29/2014 6:00:38 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: elhombrelibre

IMHO he is just biding his time and waiting for Winter. He can then go without Euros longer than Europeans can go without heat, and everyone knows that. So the EU will get their gas when he gets the Ukraine.


5 posted on 08/29/2014 6:01:48 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: elhombrelibre

If Barack won’t call it an invasion it must not be an invasion! Period!


6 posted on 08/29/2014 6:06:48 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: elhombrelibre
Putin's not even fooling his own people anymore. Eventually some of his fans here will wake up.

Did he learn that from us or did we learn that from him"

7 posted on 08/29/2014 6:21:03 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Don Corleone
Eventually some of his fans here will wake up
Not going to happen. Malignant putinism is incurable. The only treatment is routinely administered by Ukrainian forces, but they are running out of the medicine.
8 posted on 08/29/2014 6:27:03 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: Slings and Arrows
"E's not dead. E's just restin'."


9 posted on 08/29/2014 6:33:35 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("A man should be prepared to be sufficient unto himself...")
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To: elhombrelibre

In Russia and America, the will of the people is irrelevant. The government will do as it damn well pleases and it’s up to the propagandists to sell it. Here, that’s the mission of the MSM.


10 posted on 08/29/2014 6:46:33 AM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: elhombrelibre
In my best voice Who knew? lol
11 posted on 08/29/2014 7:11:03 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: elhombrelibre

Russia acts like our own politicians. The difference is that Russia is being belligerent against a foreign nation and out politicians are being belligerent against the People.


12 posted on 08/29/2014 7:33:42 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: elhombrelibre
today one of my movement's activists Dmitry Monakhov went out to the Kremlin's walls to demand Putin stop his war in Ukraine. Police violently grabbed him and now Monakhov is facing a psychiatric exam. Any anti-war protester could either end up behind bars or in a psychiatric clinic, " Chirkova said

Good grief, it's not as if they were Tea Partiers or something.

13 posted on 08/29/2014 8:04:27 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: elhombrelibre

Like so many of these threads, if the posters don’t want to openly defend the new Soviet Putin, then they turn the thread into an anti-America thread, or anti-Obama thread as an indirect way of diluting or sidetracking criticism of the Russian goals they support.


14 posted on 08/29/2014 8:07:55 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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You’re absolutely right. And by damning America, as if they were from the Reverend Wright’s church, these Putinistas show they’re more loyal to Putin than they are to the USA or to conservative values. I’m surprised they’re still allowed to be here, but that’s up to Jim.


15 posted on 08/29/2014 8:19:15 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: trebb

I’m sure the dictator in Russia appreciates you clearing up the moral differences for them.


16 posted on 08/29/2014 8:20:27 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Madame Dufarge

Back in the USSR!


17 posted on 08/29/2014 8:51:07 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: freeangel
Putin has learned how to lie well from obama, the LIAR in chief.

Former KGB Putin is a lifelong liar.

Historically it was the American left media and politicians that learned to lie from the KGB, and not the other way around.

18 posted on 08/29/2014 9:10:01 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: jdsteel
MHO he is just biding his time and waiting for Winter. He can then go without Euros longer than Europeans can go without heat...

Russia loses Euros by not supplying Europe with heat.

It's a two-way street.

19 posted on 08/29/2014 9:15:09 AM PDT by FreeReign
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You said: “...IMHO he is just biding his time and waiting for Winter. He can then go without Euros longer than Europeans can go without heat, and everyone knows that. So the EU will get their gas when he gets the Ukraine...”

This is the point. I rather would send our European troops into the western Ukraine if they block the pipelines than defending their formal property in eastern Ukraine against the majority of the people (who are Russians) living there.

Regards from Europe

Andreas


20 posted on 08/29/2014 9:29:06 AM PDT by European Guest (De omnibus dubitandum)
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