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Michael Brown Shooting: Is 6 Shots Normal for Police Use of Force?
Christian Post ^ | 08/19/2014 | Samuel Smith

Posted on 08/19/2014 1:40:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

From the reports I read, the guy dropped a couple of feet short of the cop - that implies (at least to me) that anything fewer than the shots he took, and he would’ve reached the cop.


61 posted on 08/19/2014 2:08:40 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: SkyDancer
Yes - somebody that big high on pot and the cop with a girlie 9mm??

Exactly. Looks like this "gentle giant" might have been high and aggressive. The robbery scene shows him as such.

I used to carry a .22 and my husband said if i ever had occasion to fire it, to empty the whole magazine or the perp would take it away from me and turn it on me.

How much larger is a 9mm bullet?

vaudine

62 posted on 08/19/2014 2:10:32 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: All

there was a side by side with the autopsy picture and a finger position on trigger diagram that explained much.

BTW do these reporters realize that even though Baden did this report FOR FREE! if he is called as an expert for deposition and testimony, he HAS to be paid?


63 posted on 08/19/2014 2:11:19 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SeekAndFind

ALWAYS better to be tried by 12 instead of buried by 6.


64 posted on 08/19/2014 2:11:50 PM PDT by Mark (Obama Care is now DEMOCRAT CARE)
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t forget:

Michael Brown was huge - about 6’ 4” and weighing 290 pounds

At the time of the shooting Officer Wilson was suffering from a severe head/eye injury already inflicted by Brown

The evidence seems to support the assertion that Brown was charging Officer Wilson again - that was like facing a charging bull or bear

Brown had already tried to gain possession of Officer Wilson’s pistol so he had every reason to believe that his life was in danger if Brown got to him again

It looks as if the first shots landed on Brown’s right arm, which probably did not immediately take him down, so the officer kept firing

After the fatal head shots, Brown still landed only about 3 feet from Officer Wilson

If the officer had stopped shooting after 2 or 3 shots Brown would probably have been on top of him again and with plenty of fight left in him


65 posted on 08/19/2014 2:13:28 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Why Obama's sons are like sperm: Only one in a million work.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

In a defensive situation: Fire until the slide locks back... reload, repeat.


66 posted on 08/19/2014 2:13:30 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot ( Total War)
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To: SeekAndFind

He was a robber.


67 posted on 08/19/2014 2:14:21 PM PDT by Carry me back
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yep. Once the shooting starts empty your clip and make sure that perp is down.


68 posted on 08/19/2014 2:15:40 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: vaudine
How much larger is a 9mm bullet?

Roughly twice the size and three times the weight.

69 posted on 08/19/2014 2:19:10 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: SeekAndFind
Regardless, Eric Holder will order this investigation be stalled until AFTER THE NOVEMBER ELECTION. Lots of fodder and rage based upon LIES until then.
70 posted on 08/19/2014 2:19:57 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Rome2000

Perhaps not specifically confirmed, but it has beem confirmed that the officer did get his orbital bone broken, and witnesses have indicated that Brown did punch Wilson in the face in the scuffle.

Much, much more likely, IMHO, that the punching from a 290 lb ham fisted thug didit o th officer than recoil from his own weapon, which he trained on.

As a six year veteran, he would have shot those weapons many hundreds of times.

I shoot fairly often, both long guns and hand guns, I saw a friend “scoped” once years ago, but knew enough not to have it happen from my own Father’s instruction when young. Shooting a .44 magnum, I have never had it kivck back and hi me.

It could...but if you hold them orperly and train...it is not likely.

No...perhaps it has not been “confirmed” but based on what we do know, I lay Ollie’s to doughnuts that’s how it appended.


71 posted on 08/19/2014 2:20:20 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Semper Fidelis - Molon Labe - Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: 2harddrive
Six shots is FINE. Don’t worry about it. But, I have a SEVEN-shooter.

My baby Glock has 10. I practice with 4 slow methodical shots, then 6 quick ones.

72 posted on 08/19/2014 2:21:40 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: SeekAndFind

back when they still used revolvers it was all the shots they had - without reloading.


73 posted on 08/19/2014 2:21:53 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: TigersEye; felixandbowinkle

... waiting for our favorite newbie to show up and once again argue that Wilson should have just stayed in the car.


74 posted on 08/19/2014 2:21:59 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The officer had a fractured eye-socket, was stunned and who knows how much he could see and what condition he was in. This may be a reason why all the bullet hits are on the perps right side or the left from the point of view of the officer.


75 posted on 08/19/2014 2:22:12 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: SkyDancer

A single 9mm round made Trayvon Martin room temperature.


76 posted on 08/19/2014 2:22:14 PM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. – Robert Heinlein)
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To: vaudine

A 9mm equates to about .354 inches or about a 36 caliber.
A .22 is a good weapon, but shot placement is very important. The best advice I ever got was from a former sheriff. He told me that in a self defense situation, don’t use anything unless it has a “4” in it.
40, 44 or 45 caliber. Our self defense weapon is a Taurus Judge loaded with .410’s 000 buck and 45 long colts.


77 posted on 08/19/2014 2:22:47 PM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is the CPUSA)
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To: SkyDancer

The sheriff’s deputies in my county use .40S&W


78 posted on 08/19/2014 2:23:00 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The best reconstruction of the whole scenario that I can come up with is as follows:

1) Brown, all 6’4” and 292 pounds of him and high on pot, robbed a liquor store of cigars, physically assaulting (though not TOO badly) the much smaller clerk.

2) Brown left the liquor store and about 10 minutes later was confronted in the street by Officer Wilson for ... wait for it ... walking in the street.

3) Brown evidently did SOMETHING to the officer in the car in the way of a confrontation at this point. I don’t know if he went for his gun, popped him in the face, neither or both. But SOMETHING happened. I strongly suspect that the physical altercation involved Wilson being struck - hard - in the face, fracturing the orbit of his left eye.

4) Brown started walking away, and Wilson told him to stop. Wilson had his weapon drawn. Brown apparently stopped, turned around and proceeded to rush Wilson.

5) Wilson shot Brown 6 times, 4 in the arm, 1 in the neck area and 1 in the head (at the top, which is a bit strange at first, but not if Brown had started to double over in pain from the prior shots that hit him, or had stumbled).

My conclusion is that Brown, a very large and imposing guy, who was high and had just robbed a store and committed assault (well, actually, battery) in the process, didn’t want to be hauled in to face justice. That an 18-year-old male who was also probably not terribly well educated misjudged the situation is plain. As for Officer Wilson, he got busted up buy a huge guy, who a few seconds later turned on him and rushed him. What would ANYONE do? You’ve been fairly seriously injured, your vision is probably somewhat impaired and you may be feeling like you’re about to pass out, and all you have to defend yourself with in the next 2-3 seconds against a pissed-off guy the size of an NFL linebacker WHO ALREADY ASSAULTED A UNIFORMED POLICE OFFICER is a 9mm pop-gun? I’d have probably emptied the gun into him and reloaded ASAP. It is a tribute to Wilson’s training and his presence of mind that Brown was shot 6 times and not more.

This seems pretty open and shut to me - but, of course, that matters not one whit to the rabble-rousers in Fergusen and DC. If Wilson isn’t charged, look for riots AT LEAST in St. Louis, and probably in a few dozen cities. If he is charged and gets a not guilty verdict in a few months or a year, look for the same results. Meanwhile, I’d advise anyone living or working anywhere near a similar inner city neighborhood to carry, and to practice A LOT with their firearm.

What a waste of a life! No, Brown was almost certainly never going to be a Nobel Prize winner or similar contributor to the general well-being of humanity, but still he was a person who could have been decent and raised a decent family. Had he actually been a gentle giant, he could’ve very positively affected a lot of lives. Instead he is dead and gone, and his only legacy is violence committed in his name and more hatred fostered by his idiocy.


79 posted on 08/19/2014 2:24:37 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: SeekAndFind

All of Al Sharpton’s security guards should limit themselves to two bullets.


80 posted on 08/19/2014 2:25:56 PM PDT by lacrew
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