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Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson reveals why he shot Missouri black teenager
NateThayer.com ^ | August 16,2014 | Nate Thayer

Posted on 08/19/2014 3:59:00 AM PDT by nikos1121

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To: DoodleDawg

I used to agree with you, but by chance do you follow tournement fishing? Everyone who takes prize money takes a lie detector test. So explain that one to me.


61 posted on 08/19/2014 6:52:15 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121
-- The narrative says that at first he did not stop Brown because he thought they were suspects. IT was only after he started to leave that he heard something on the radio about a robbery ... --

I will admit to not following the details of the incident very closely, but you make an important distinction as to precise timing of Wilson's awareness of the strongarm robbery.

The account presented here is the most detailed one I've seen. My vague impression has been that the police made a point of saying Wilson didn't know about the robbery (period). I'm not sure that's what they actually said, or if it was qualified as "robbery wasn't the reason to tell them to get out of the middle of the street - although that's sort of a "duh, no kidding" point. If the initial request to brown was to get out of the middle of the street, it seems rather obvious that Wilson didn't suspect Brown of anything other than walking in the middle of the street.

62 posted on 08/19/2014 6:53:33 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Mouton

Succintly put.


63 posted on 08/19/2014 6:54:13 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: sport

What mistake did George Z make? Try as he did to screw his case up, and as much of an idiot he was afterwards, he was acquitted and remains free. Poor judgement, but didn’t make a mistake (at least an objectively consequential one).


64 posted on 08/19/2014 6:57:29 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" - Obama, setting RoE with his opposition)
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To: Kenny Bunk

How about ‘Continuity of Care Manager’ (Patient Dumper), like Moochelle?


65 posted on 08/19/2014 6:58:29 AM PDT by Reagan80 ("In this current crisis, government is not the solution to our problems, government IS the problem")
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To: Cboldt

The police chief was asked repeatedly if Wilson knew of the robbery. He said that he didn’t know. I think the narrative suggusts that he didn’t stop the two kids because he knew of the robbery. There is some indication from the narrative that Wilson some time later, within a minute or two may have heard on the scanner that there was a robbery.

One thing for SURE, Brown was aware of the robbery. He had just committed it. He didn’t know if Wilson knew.


66 posted on 08/19/2014 6:59:31 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Kozak

“...Unless he’s a saint they will make him out to be the biggest racist since Adolph Hitler.”

If the facts prove the story as told from the cop’s friend’s POV, his feelings about race would make no difference in the outcome.


67 posted on 08/19/2014 7:20:01 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: nikos1121
I used to agree with you, but by chance do you follow tournement fishing? Everyone who takes prize money takes a lie detector test. So explain that one to me.

It's not a court of law. Lie detectors aren't infallible. They can be fooled willingly and they can also give inconclusive results results on answers. The Supreme Court has identified standards that scientific evidence must meet and a polygraph doesn't meet them. The military court system won't accept them as evidence under any circumstances, and most state courts ban them as evidence as well.

68 posted on 08/19/2014 7:33:53 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Mathews

An interesting drill, but I would say that on his signal he takes off running, not yours. Simulate surprise a bit better, but still not great because you are already set to take a course of action.

I once shot with a guy that was IDF trained and still living in Israel, just visiting the states. An interesting experience. His son (12ish) was being instructed by his dad in the riot-control tactics in which dad was trained. And I just stood there and soaked it up. He knew his son was going to serve in a few years, and was prepping him for that day...it was a great afternoon at the range...


69 posted on 08/19/2014 7:34:33 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: nikos1121

It is looking to me more like suicide by cop: obscure social media posting just prior, petty crime that was sure to draw cops, walking down the middle of the street right after the crime. If he was not out to challenge a cop, why not lay low after shoplifting? I have seen too many times blacks walking in the road when s perfectly good sidewalk was present. But rarely walking in the middle of the road as if to challenge the right of way. Sounds like he really wanted the attention of police.


70 posted on 08/19/2014 7:35:04 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: bk1000

You missed the entire OJ trial?


71 posted on 08/19/2014 7:40:05 AM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: F15Eagle

Well we have all heard of the 30 ft rule. So if the kid was 35 ft away and charged the officer really did have very little time to respond.


72 posted on 08/19/2014 7:58:29 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kozak

Setting the truth aside, which is what will happen, Darren Wilson does not stand a chance of a normal life, he may be sacrificed to quell the lust for revenge, even though the sacrifice will do nothing.

We don’t know the truth yet, but those who work in the police department know, I believe Wilson’s story, just as I did Zimmermans story when it was first told, the truth you can’t just make up, like you can a lie.


73 posted on 08/19/2014 8:05:32 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: nikos1121
What mistake did George Z make, other than acting like an idiot after the trial.

Wasn't that enough?

74 posted on 08/19/2014 8:17:50 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Only a specific Program, Plan, and Leadership will end the chaos of dysfunctional government.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
This is how small towns in Maine, with 3% African-American population, wind up with an African-American Police Chief ... usually some Affirmative Action idiot who was cashiered in a big-city PD... but with a big settlement. Nation-wide search, hefty fee to the search firm ... get us a black school superintendent while we're at it, and maybe an Hispanic Fire Chief.

Insightful Kenny... thanks for sharing.

75 posted on 08/19/2014 8:26:21 AM PDT by GOPJ ( Looted store owners in Ferguson should to sue the city. They paid for police protection - got none)
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To: nikos1121

mark


76 posted on 08/19/2014 9:07:50 AM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: nikos1121

so lets hear about mike brown..his history why was he living with grandma what about his parents juvenile record?


77 posted on 08/19/2014 9:18:55 AM PDT by rolling_stone (1984)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes
I agree. Buddy initiates the drill. That's how we did it in the day too... forgot about that. I talk very plainly to my two boys. We play with Nerf guns all the time and they have already learned the basics of a tactical entry and bounding overwatch. They think they are simply having fun, but they are also learning great skills. They completely annihilate the neighborhood kids when they get together with everyone in our commons area. Fun to watch them slice the pie and what not. Good boys and they definately know about muzzle control. The oldest swept Mama with his Nerf sniper rifle and she had that boy pushing the ground until he darned near puked.
78 posted on 08/19/2014 11:08:31 AM PDT by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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To: I want the USA back
His life is in danger from savages.

Thinkin' Alaska is looking pretty good.

79 posted on 08/19/2014 12:29:31 PM PDT by super7man (Oh why did I post that, now I'll never be able to run for Congress.)
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