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Autopsy: Michael Brown Was Shot 6 Times
Newser ^ | Aug 18, 2014 | Rob Quinn

Posted on 08/18/2014 3:41:30 AM PDT by Enterprise

The results of a private autopsy on Michael Brown may escalate tensions in Ferguson, Missouri even further: The examiner says the unarmed teenager was shot at least six times, including twice in the head, and all the bullets came from the front, reports the New York Times. Pathologist Michael Baden, New York City's former chief medical examiner, says all the bullets were fired from at least one or two feet away, and one bullet—apparently the last one fired—hit the top of the 18-year-old's head.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: baden; banglist; brownautopsy; deadlyforce; defensive; doubletap; ferguson; firearms; frontal; guncontrol; guns; handgun; proximity; riots; secondamendment; shooting; training
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"All the bullets were fired from at least one or two feet away." Agreed that a lot of shots can be fired in a short period of time from a semi-auto, but this is essentially face to face in terms of distance. It suggests to me that Wilson held his fire to the point he was in genuine danger of being assaulted again.
1 posted on 08/18/2014 3:41:30 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise

boom, headshot... boom, headshot.


2 posted on 08/18/2014 3:44:29 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Enterprise

Where did this source get the information about one or two feet away? The NYT long article said there were no powder burns, but that the clothes were not tested and powder might be on them.

BTW, the NYT did break this story and reported fairly, I think, saying in the headline all shots were fired at the front of the body.


3 posted on 08/18/2014 3:44:44 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Enterprise

And this morning on the news they’re saying there were no gunpowder traces on his body or clothes, which I assume would indicate we was shot even further away than one or two feet. I doubt we’ll ever know the truth of the matter.


4 posted on 08/18/2014 3:45:55 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Enterprise
What difference does it Make? (From the hildabeast)
The perp was black and the cop was white.
That is all al & jessie care about.
Want proof?
How many times have they gone to Chicago to protest the shooting of young back men?
5 posted on 08/18/2014 3:46:09 AM PDT by DeaconRed (We have a useless, clueless, gutless leader we can't get rid of for 2 more years.)
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To: Enterprise

“At least 1 to 2 feet away” is not the same as “no more than 1 to 2 feet away”.


6 posted on 08/18/2014 3:47:21 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Veto!
The source is Pathologist Michael Baden.

I also remember reading that there were no powder burns on Brown. In light of this report by the Pathologist I am wondering how was this possible?

7 posted on 08/18/2014 3:48:04 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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"I doubt we’ll ever know the truth of the matter."

Doubt? I can guarantee with al & jessie sticking their race baiting noses in that the truth will NEVER come out.

8 posted on 08/18/2014 3:48:55 AM PDT by DeaconRed (We have a useless, clueless, gutless leader we can't get rid of for 2 more years.)
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To: Enterprise; moder_ator

Moderator—Is this parenthetical claim that the shots were fired 1 to 2 feet away—as opposed to “at least 1 to 2 feet away” sufficiently misleading and inflammatory to remove it from the FR headline?


9 posted on 08/18/2014 3:49:34 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Enterprise

Thanks for the info re Baden..

Hopefully, all will be explained about how it’s possible…but then again...


10 posted on 08/18/2014 3:51:27 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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“At least 1 to 2 feet away” is not the same as “no more than 1 to 2 feet away”.
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Quite correct, 15 feet is “at least 1 to 2 feet away”. Let’s not make unwarranted assumptions folks. More evidence will be forthcoming.


11 posted on 08/18/2014 3:51:51 AM PDT by House Atreides (ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN FOR CHILDERS 2014 .... Don't reward bad GOPe behavior.)
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To: Enterprise

Some people just don’t know how to behave.


12 posted on 08/18/2014 3:52:20 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Enterprise

Operative words there are ‘at least’. The reason they’re saying that is because there’s no powder burns on the flesh around the wounds.

He could have been at 2.5 feet, 25 feet even 25 yards. You can’t tell for sure from a post mortem (though you can sometimes guess, based on caliber, bullet weight and observed tissue damage.)


13 posted on 08/18/2014 3:53:35 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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“At least 1 to 2 feet away” is not the same as “no more than 1 to 2 feet away”.

Working in reverse, the phrasing no more than 1 to 2 feet away limits the distance to a maximum of 2 feet. Why would the phrasing "at 1east" 1 to 2 feet away be used? Could it have been 3 feet away, 10 feet, 35 feet? At what point can we, or others reading the report, reasonably infer the distance from the front of the pistol to the first strike on Brown?

14 posted on 08/18/2014 3:57:54 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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I heard ABC Radio News a number of times last night. The fella s writing the copy could not bring themselves to include the following pertinent facts:
1:It was the second autopsy.
2:It was done at the specific request of Michael Brown’s family.
3: It was performed by Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York.
4: All the wounds were in the front or top of the head contrary to Brown’s accomplice’s report who said most were in the back.
The MF at ABC want a Race War for some reason. Or maybe they were just waiting for Obama to lift the Information Embargo.


15 posted on 08/18/2014 3:58:47 AM PDT by BilLies ( it isn't the color of the skin, but culture that is embraced that degrades.)
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To: Enterprise

All we can infer from the autopsy report is that it was “at least 1 to 2 feet away”. The eyewitness reports seem to suggest it was quite a bit further, but nothing at this point leads to the conclusion that the shooting was “1 to 2 feet away”.


16 posted on 08/18/2014 3:59:57 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker; moder_ator

I don’t disagree with 9 year lurker on this. If my parenthetical wording is misleading, the post should be taken down.


17 posted on 08/18/2014 4:01:16 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

“shot at least six times” could have been fewer shots, and 6 hits as some could have pass through arms.

Questions I have: What was this man on? PCP, Heroin?
What kind of ammo was it?

IMHO, Regardless of race, when that big man started coming at me, I would have felt threatened enough to open fire.


18 posted on 08/18/2014 4:02:26 AM PDT by jonose
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Why would the phrasing "at 1east" 1 to 2 feet away be used?

I think its just jargon-speak for "we didn't find any powder burns on the body that we would expect if the gun were within 2 feet of the wound."

19 posted on 08/18/2014 4:06:41 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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Upon further review, I agree that the autopsy report might not be able to accurately ascertain the distance. The people who would nail that down would be the crime scene investigators.


20 posted on 08/18/2014 4:07:13 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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