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6th District Congress: 1,259 absentee ballots remain outstanding in deadlocked race (WI)
Wisconsin Election Watch ^ | 8-16-14 | Kyle Maichle

Posted on 08/16/2014 5:49:44 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

FOND DU LAC – 1,259 absentee ballots remain outstanding according to election officials in the 6th Congressional District.

Wisconsin Election Watch obtained outstanding absentee ballot data from clerks via their website or on the telephone on Thursday. The Sheboygan Press initially reported on Wednesday that there 1,500 absentee ballots outstanding. The following is an actual count of the outstanding absentee ballots:

County

Number of Outstanding Absentee Ballots

Columbia

68

Dodge

76

Fond du Lac

113

Green Lake

17

Manitowoc

82

Marquette

8

Milwaukee

15

Ozaukee

397

Sheboygan

205

Waushara

10

Winnebago

268

Sources: County Clerks in Columbia, Dodge, Fond du Lac, Green Lake, Manitowoc, Marquette, Ozaukee, Sheboygan, and Winnebago Counties. Bayside and River Hills Village Clerks

As of Thursday, Glenn Grothman still holds onto a slim lead against Joe Leibham. A large majority of the absentee ballots are in the more-populated counties of Fond du Lac, Ozaukee, Sheboygan, and Winnebago which account for over 78 percent of the total absentee ballots outstanding. On Election Night, Leibham won Sheboygan County while Grothman carried Ozaukee, Winnebago, and Fond du Lac counties.

County canvassing boards will meet next week to determine the final results of this closely contested race for the Republican nomination in the 6th Congressional District. After the canvassing boards make their final decision, it is up to the losing campaigns to request a recount. Because the margin of victory is less than half of one percent, the State of Wisconsin will pay for all the costs associated with the recount.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: absentee; grothman; leibham; recount

1 posted on 08/16/2014 5:49:44 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ...

1200+ ballots still outstanding in close Congressional race.

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.

I don’t know how this happens because in our municipality the absentee ballots are fed into the machines on the day of the election, so they are already counted. I thought the GAB insistes that everyone does this.

But I know that the box where I worked on Tuesday didn’t turn in their ballots for final count (the canvass) until yesterday afternoon because we had a discrepancy of 1 (one) ballot. That might account for the 300+ ballots in Ozaukee County. We had 354 ballots cast and a count of 355. We never did reconcile it despite recounting 13 times on 3 days.


2 posted on 08/16/2014 5:56:32 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Those uncounted Ozaukee ballots bode well for Grothman. The wild card are the Outagamie county ballots. Hard to see how Liebham catches Grothman given the spread of 214 to start.


3 posted on 08/16/2014 6:01:30 AM PDT by irish guard
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To: irish guard

My husband reminds me that ballots that were postmarked by Aug. 12 but not received are counted at this point. I’d forgotten that point. But I still wonder about the 354 ballots from my ballot location that didn’t get turned in until yesterday afternoon. Are those in the 390+ Ozaukee count? If so, Grothman won those ballots 2/1 against Leibham and 3/1 against Stroebal. Or vice versa. I’ve forgotten for the moment. In any case, Grothman won handily.


4 posted on 08/16/2014 6:11:16 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“I don’t know how this happens because in our municipality the absentee ballots are fed into the machines on the day of the election, so they are already counted. I thought the GAB insistes that everyone does this.”

Exactly! That’s how we do it! Grrrrrrrrrr!


5 posted on 08/16/2014 6:48:16 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Hmmm... Voting machine software virus error?...


6 posted on 08/16/2014 7:27:51 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Here’s how this madness happens ... there is no uniformity in voting.

ID EVERYONE. Expand voting. If you are properly ID’d the State should do whatever it can to make sure people can vote. Staff voting areas well. Give a week or two for voting.

Once you are confirmed to be an American Citizen and eligible then the State should do ALL it can to ensure people can vote. Weekends, late night, etc. THAT is what a real Democracy does.

While I am so with the GOP on voter ID, I do not like the restriction of hours, fewer voting booths and precincts, etc that seems to be running rampant. At a minimum, voting should be over a weekend.


7 posted on 08/16/2014 7:36:28 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Are those in the 390+ Ozaukee count? If so, Grothman won those ballots 2/1 against Leibham and 3/1 against Stroebal. Or vice versa. I’ve forgotten for the moment. In any case,

"who's on first........................?"

8 posted on 08/16/2014 9:06:38 AM PDT by varon (Para bellum)
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To: RIghtwardHo
If most "absentee" ballots can be matched to actual people, and those people have not already voted in person, I would be very surprised.

The "absentee" ballot is increasingly issued to "virtual" rather than existent voters, and multiple votes in person still goes on.... IOW, a blend of the old scams and new cyber-tech are at the heart of today's sophisticated voter fraud. E.G., a typical Philadelphia or Baltimore Election: Meet at the little church in the 'hood for a hearty breakfast. Collect street money. Complete absentee ballots as provided. Then, ride in church vans to multiple precincts to vote in person. Break for lunch. By this time, preliminary tallies show the fraudsters how many they need, and the show goes on. And on for weeks in a 'close' race. This is how the "urban masses" make sure states made up of largely conservative areas stay in the Democrat column.

All the "voter ID" in the world may not be of immediate help because a virtually created voter given a fraudulent absentee ballot must be manually checked after the fact. Furthermore, the illegal alien invasion has spawned a very efficient multiple ID industry!

State should do ALL it can to ensure people can vote. Weekends, late night, etc. THAT is what a real Democracy does.

Hosshiite. The more bells, whistles, and extensions a corrupt government can attach to voting, the greater the opportunity for fraud. Voting is an absolute duty. Citizens are not Consumers. Yes, Yes, Issue voter ID. But encourage in-person voting over two days. End these month-long charades after every crucial election. Discourage absentee ballots, which is killing elections with "double-dip" voters. (See Florida, New England)

9 posted on 08/16/2014 9:16:48 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Only a specific Program, Plan, and Leadership will end the chaos of dysfunctional government.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

My husband reminded me that ballots that are POSTMARKED on election day but returned to City Hall within the next 4 days are counted last, unless the margin between candidates is so wide that they wouldn’t make a difference. Then, they are not counted at all.

But, I don’t think the postmark really counts since our city pre-stamps them when they are sent out. So they must just accept anything that comes in within 4 days of the election.


10 posted on 08/16/2014 9:21:16 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The city puts a stamp on them they do not postmark them. Only the post office can do that.


11 posted on 08/16/2014 10:15:43 AM PDT by Steven Scharf
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To: Steven Scharf

Ours are run through a postage meter. They get a date when they go out. I don’t remember whether they get anouther date when they go back through the mail.


12 posted on 08/16/2014 11:21:26 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The polling place I worked at had a minor discrepancy, too, but it was the other way around. The machine showed one more ballot than we’d had voters, but there were 8 people watching the machine during the time the counts started not matching, including me, and none of use could figure out when or how it happened. I’m kind of thinking the machine glitched, it’s a new system.

The city clerk is still investigating last I heard. I know she emailed me about the registrations I did to make sure they were all kosher.


13 posted on 08/16/2014 11:29:12 AM PDT by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: RIghtwardHo

I kind of wish we could use one of those digital fingerprint readers as voter ID. It would take part of the human factor out of it.


14 posted on 08/16/2014 11:31:31 AM PDT by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
They get a date when they go out. I don’t remember whether they get anouther date when they go back through the mail.

They'd have to, it's how the machines at the Post Office work.
15 posted on 08/16/2014 11:33:51 AM PDT by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: Ellendra

I get mail all the time that hasn’t been cancelled. Sometimes I remove the stamps and use them over again. But once the mail has been metered, I’m not sure that it goes through the cancellation process. We used to have a special box at the PO for metered mail. It’s gone now, and I gave up my postage meter long ago. It was too expensive to maintain.


16 posted on 08/16/2014 11:37:33 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Technically, your city/town is breaking the law. The mail is supposed to be mailed on the date metered. If the are using it for mail to be returned, that is illegal. Someone returning an absentee ballot is dropping it in an ordinary mailbox where it is going to go through the postmark machine.


17 posted on 08/16/2014 2:36:36 PM PDT by Steven Scharf
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Sometimes the postmark gets printed in the wrong spot because the envelope got turned sideways or backwards, and once in a while two will stick together in such a way that it only gets printed on one. But every piece of mail is supposed to have a postmark printed as it goes through the machine.

(I worked at the Post Office for about 6 months as Christmas help. My job was to put mail through one of those machines, which stamped each piece with a postmark and then sorted it by zipcode. There were I think 20 of those machines in one section, and 5 sections with other types of sorting machines. Noisy, dusty place with creepy coworkers. That job was what inspired me to go back to school.)


18 posted on 08/16/2014 9:20:11 PM PDT by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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