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Geraldo Rivera: Michael Brown And Trayvon Martin, Spinning Tragedy
Fox News Latino ^ | August 15, 2014 | Geraldo Rivera

Posted on 08/15/2014 3:59:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It is outrageous that we only found out now, nearly a week after the fact, that 18-year-old Michael Brown, the kid tragically killed on the streets of Ferguson, Missouri, met the description of a suspect in a strong-arm robbery of a convenience store obtained from a 911 call received at 11:51 a.m. on Saturday August 9. Ten minutes later, at 12:01 p.m., and just a ¼ mile away, Brown and his alleged accomplice are spotted and confronted by Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson.

If Officer Wilson heard the 911 call, of course the cop is tensed up. The six-year veteran with a spotless record is facing a belligerent 6’4” 250 pound kid who the cop may have reasonable cause to believe is a suspect who has just forcibly robbed someone.

Why the delay in releasing the information about the robbery?

Late Friday afternoon, the muddled police chief of Ferguson, Thomas (Stonewall) Jackson said Officer Wilson never drew the link between that strong-arm robbery and the jaywalking incident that supposedly captured the cop’s attention ten minutes later.

So why release the explosive surveillance video of the convenience store robbery at all if there is no connection with the kid’s subsequent death?

The video shows the convenience store incident starting as a minor shoplifting of a box of cigars apparently by Michael Brown. When the diminutive store clerk confronts the big kid, Brown appears to whack him up the side of his face. Then, pushing past the stunned clerk, Brown and a pal leave the store.

The family of the victim says the release of the video is just character assassination. I disagree. At the very least, watching the surveillance video of Brown allegedly robbing the convenience store should alter our perception of the victim....

(Excerpt) Read more at latino.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Florida; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: crime; ferguson; michaelbrown; missouri

1 posted on 08/15/2014 3:59:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good old reliable Jerry Rivers.


2 posted on 08/15/2014 4:01:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: cripplecreek

Jewey Rivers is a POS


3 posted on 08/15/2014 4:04:13 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: cripplecreek; CGASMIA68

Now go back and read it.


4 posted on 08/15/2014 4:05:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Give him a few minutes. He’s always reliable.


5 posted on 08/15/2014 4:07:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK I did read the same thing Jerry Rivers Sux


6 posted on 08/15/2014 4:07:53 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry Jerry. An 18 year old, 290 pound, 6’4” behemoth with a chip on his shoulder is NOT A “KID”.


7 posted on 08/15/2014 4:08:38 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is not a refugee camp! It's my home!)
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To: cripplecreek

I hate it every time his mustache moves. The baby just can’t get enough attention.


8 posted on 08/15/2014 4:09:20 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Every time he’s outside reporting during a severe weather event, I cheer for the storm.


9 posted on 08/15/2014 4:11:23 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Now go back and read it.

Right you are. Rivera actually wrote a balanced piece here. From the article:

"But efforts by activists to portray the unarmed teen as a choirboy maliciously murdered by a racist cop are misguided, unhelpful and untrue."

10 posted on 08/15/2014 4:12:05 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good one.


11 posted on 08/15/2014 4:13:32 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: cripplecreek

I wonder if he’s going to do a special feature presentation where he’s huddled down behind a car and there is rioting going on in Madison Square with maltov cocktails flying and cars being turned over with and then they cut to commercial break a little late and we’ll hear a director yell, “Cut”’

: )


12 posted on 08/15/2014 4:13:33 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All the puff pieces about how black men are victims of racism and police violence just dropped significantly after it was revealed Micheal “baby” Brown robbed a store, beat on an Indian clerk....


13 posted on 08/15/2014 4:28:48 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Leaning Right

I have to say that I am stunned he was actually honest enough to say that much.


14 posted on 08/15/2014 4:42:36 PM PDT by Jean2 (ox)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Those from the white-dominated suburbs will see the young man as a bully and a crook that probably did something to provoke the violence that led to his death. Residents of the inner city will see the slain youngster as a surrogate for every black man ever killed by police violence.

As Senator Rand Paul of nearby Kentucky just wrote in Time Magazine, “Anyone who thinks race does not skew the application of criminal justice in this country is just not paying close enough attention.”

It is America’s dirty secret.

Wow. Am I really reading an indictment of black on white racism - from General Geraldo? I'm stunned.

15 posted on 08/15/2014 4:45:46 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They tried to show a younger photo of him the way they did with Trayvon, but it didn't have the same efect:

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16 posted on 08/15/2014 5:01:05 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think pictures of the cops face are now front and center in this incident.

If his face is bruised and cut significantly, or indeed at all, it will show what the officers state of mind, therefore his intent was as he was pulling the trigger.

I don’t mind saying that if some 6’ 6” 290 lb man was pounding on me and I had a gun he would be a dead big guy AND with multiple holes in his bod!

On the other hand, IF Brown did indeed fall to his knees with his hands up in the air, and then the cop started shooting, the cop is justifiably in big trouble no matter what.

Bottom line: We still don’t know all the facts.


17 posted on 08/15/2014 5:12:41 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As Senator Rand Paul of nearby Kentucky just wrote in Time Magazine, “Anyone who thinks race does not skew the application of criminal justice in this country is just not paying close enough attention.”

I'm sorry, but public officials need to be careful what they say in situations like this. This comment would feed into the mindset of those angry over this shooting. The fact is, this may not have been a bad shoot at all, and the public should not be fed statements that are counter-productive.

Here Paul tries to come off as a candid straight shooter, and instead comes of as a dim-witted violence enabler.

Residents of the inner city will see the slain youngster as a surrogate for every black man ever killed by police violence.

This about the best we could hope for from Jerry Rivers. It still displays a very twisted view that police are the ones who instigate violence in Black neighborhoods.

Jerry, I'm not saying every police shooting is justified, but to act as if the police are the ones who cause the violence is the product of a very lazy mind.

18 posted on 08/15/2014 5:22:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: Leaning Right
Agreed. Rivers is spot on here.

But then there's this line: "The video shows the convenience store incident starting as a minor shoplifting of a box of cigars apparently by Michael Brown. When the diminutive store clerk confronts the big kid, Brown appears to whack him up the side of his face."

That makes the charge go from "minor shoplifting" to "robbery" and "assault", doesn't it?

Frankly I was stunned by that video. Either the clerk is tiny, or Brown was a huge, very powerful thug.

He pushes the clerk around like a rag doll.

I can totally buy the cops story now.

Even a big cop would have trouble trying to wrestle with a gorilla like that.

19 posted on 08/15/2014 5:23:05 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

*snicker*


20 posted on 08/15/2014 5:24:24 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Illegals Are Getting Flat Screet TV's....NOT TB Screenings!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve never had much respect for Geraldo, but this time he really nails it. He pulls no punches in this well-written, factual article and it should be read by everybody.


21 posted on 08/15/2014 5:24:32 PM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: boop

Brown is huge.


22 posted on 08/15/2014 5:26:21 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Illegals Are Getting Flat Screet TV's....NOT TB Screenings!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Jerry Rivers, stating the obvious.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

23 posted on 08/15/2014 5:26:40 PM PDT by wku man ("Weenie in a Hybrid" by 10 Pound Test - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWdLDSB_6gY)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why the delay? the police likely did not wish to disclose evidence


24 posted on 08/15/2014 6:03:47 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

I’d like to think that it was planned that way. My guess is the cops had a pretty good idea of what happened soon after the incident. What better way to make all of the thugs and the outa town race baiters look like frigging indiots than to let ‘em make asses out of themselves for a few days and then lower the boom. I’d say the coppers sandbagged these guys pretty good.


25 posted on 08/15/2014 6:41:00 PM PDT by technically right
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Whoraldo”...


26 posted on 08/15/2014 6:44:08 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not a “minor shoplifting”, just a few like that over time can kill a business.


27 posted on 08/15/2014 6:47:25 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Cen-Tejas

My take is that if the coroner’s report shows GSW on the Dead cigar bandit it supports the reported officers account of the fight over the gun and discharge in the cruiser, he crossed the line and lethal force was necessary/justified. Bull rushing the cop after that was just saying ‘I wants to win the Darwin award of the week’.


28 posted on 08/15/2014 6:52:44 PM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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To: VRWCarea51

GSW on his hands...


29 posted on 08/15/2014 6:53:51 PM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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To: Leaning Right
I'm not a fan of Geraldo Rivera, but he does bring a balance to his reporting that is absent from most of his counterparts in the MSM.

He's a lawyer by training, and actually worked briefly for the New York City police department early in his career as an internal investigator. If you go back through his career, I'll bet you'd find that his reporting on stories like this involving police matters is typically thorough and objective.

30 posted on 08/15/2014 7:16:57 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: boop

From reports that I’ve seen, the “kid” is 6’ 4” and about 290 pounds. That’s a very large “kid”.


31 posted on 08/15/2014 7:26:46 PM PDT by Bob
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To: VRWCarea51

..............hmmm..............good take. Hate to show my ignorance but what is GSW? I presume it is some kind of drug. If so, your right and that will explain the whole thing. Obviously the cop, having good sense, was not about to let this 290 lb guy high on something have a second go at him. If this turns out to be the case, I don’t blame him.


32 posted on 08/15/2014 8:08:07 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Cen-Tejas

Sorry, mistype. Meant GSR

Gunshot Residue.

If he was fighting with the cop struggling over the gun in the cops vehicle when it discharged he’ll have trace evidence on his hands/wrists.


33 posted on 08/15/2014 8:58:35 PM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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To: VRWCarea51

..........the thing I think you have steered me to is toxicology. If he were HIGH on some drug, that could corroborate the allegation that he “bull charged the cop”.........

IF he did “bull charge” the cop while HIGH and after being whipped up on pretty bad once a minute or so earlier, the cop was within his rights to fire.

Simple as that, and those bullets once airborne don’t have a recall feature!

And, this helps explain a second autopsy.


34 posted on 08/16/2014 6:52:55 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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