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Ukraine Says Russian Armored Vehicles Destroyed
WSJ ^ | Aug. 15, 2014 12:08 p.m. ET | James Marson

Posted on 08/15/2014 9:11:50 AM PDT by Zhang Fei

MOSCOW—Ukrainian artillery destroyed a large part of a column of armored vehicles that had been seen entering Ukraine from Russia, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said Friday.

Ukraine, backed by Western capitals, has for weeks accused Russia of sending men and heavy weapons to pro-Russia rebels that hold several towns and cities in Ukraine's east.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: russia; ukraine
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Would be nice if the U.S. was helping arm the Ukrainians. A few A-10's would be nice since Obama wants to decommission them:

They have SU-25's, which are A-10 equivalents. A dozen of them have been shot down by Russian air defense units firing across the border. They need F-22's and F-35's to bomb without getting hit. The Israelis routinely knock out SAM batteries in Syria for locking on to their aircraft, but the Ukrainians aren't dealing with Syria.

21 posted on 08/15/2014 9:46:07 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Also worth knowing:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3193158/posts

22 posted on 08/15/2014 9:48:01 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Zhang Fei; All

Per the UK Telegraph’s Oliphant, with the aid convoy, this was setup on the Russian side of the border at Izvarino/Donetsk, Russia.

Twitter says it is the support Radar for an S-300/400 battery.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvEhvB7IUAAcQmf.jpg:large

It just got a whole lot more interesting....


23 posted on 08/15/2014 9:49:11 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Zhang Fei
And our ignorant King still will not help sending arms to Ukraine. King Obama is a communists black Muslim traitor. Please remember TRAITOR. We had a treaty with Ukraine if they remove their nukes and we would support them.
24 posted on 08/15/2014 9:49:25 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Uncle Chip
carrying humanitarian aid.. HAAA!!!


Trucks in a Russian humanitarian aid convoy pictured parked in a field outside the town of Kamensk-Shakhtinsky in Rostov region, some 30 km from the Russian-Ukrainian border, Russia, on August 15, 2014 (AFP Photo/Dmitry Serebryakov)
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A Russian military truck transporting a self-propelled howitzer 2S19 - MSTA-S (M1990 "Farm" NATO classification) is seen near the town of Kamensk-Shakhtinsky in the Rostov region, Russia, some 30 km from the Ukrainian border, on August 15, 2014 (AFP Photo/Sergei Venyavsky)

25 posted on 08/15/2014 9:55:24 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Logical me

“We had a treaty with Ukraine”

Incorrect...
We had a “Memorandum of Understanding”, (Clinton’s Budapeest Memorandum from 1991) which is a just worthless piece of paper when a Democrat is in the White House.

There was never any defense treaty with Ukraine. That requires a vote of the Congress.


26 posted on 08/15/2014 9:59:00 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf; All

Related:

Lugansk militia claims to have captured a NatGuard mine-laying team along the road to Lugansk.
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Flifenews.ru%2Fnews%2F138470&edit-text=&act=url


27 posted on 08/15/2014 10:00:50 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: AU72
Looks like it’s started.

Incursions from Russia have been going on a while now. Nothing new.

From the article:


28 posted on 08/15/2014 10:17:47 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

This time it’s different: many foreign witnesses of Russian military crossing the border. No more fairy tales of captured or purchased in convenience store weapons.


29 posted on 08/15/2014 10:42:01 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: NormsRevenge

A BBC reporter got to look inside some of those trucks and he found a large pile of nothing


30 posted on 08/15/2014 10:47:08 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Zhang Fei
"They have SU-25's, which are A-10 equivalents. A dozen of them have been shot down by Russian air defense..."

Which means A-10s would be mincemeat against a "modern" opponent without air superiority to begin with.
Likely lucky we didn't have to rely on them against a Soviet T-72 horde coming through the Fulda Gap (unless, of course, we ruled the air before-hand).

31 posted on 08/15/2014 10:48:05 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Zhang Fei

http://orientalreview.org/2014/08/13/dutch-professor-apologizing-for-mh17-tragedy-media-coverage-in-the-netherlands/


32 posted on 08/15/2014 11:08:57 AM PDT by bayouranger (Those who are anti-islam are a National Security Threat.- J.Brennan CIA Dir. Feb10)
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To: Zhang Fei

That “aid” convoy was carrying soldiers. Reinforcements.


33 posted on 08/15/2014 11:28:27 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 1rudeboy

The “rebels” are Russians. I think we need to stop pretending they are Ukrainian rebels, heck Russia just delivered about 240 trucks of troops to them


34 posted on 08/15/2014 11:30:48 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: molson209

So all the arms and weapons and ammo got off loaded enroute,, or sumthin’.

Better to be safe than blow’d up.


35 posted on 08/15/2014 11:45:36 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Zhang Fei
While I'm sure there'll be lots of folks cheering this, I don't see how any good can come of it.

Sometimes the bully is a genuine bad-ass and resents the bloody nose you just gave him.

If it was a column of 20 or so APCs, it may not have been smart to shoot them.

36 posted on 08/15/2014 11:48:18 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Logical me
"We had a treaty with Ukraine if they remove their nukes and we would support them. "

Absolutely NOT TRUE.

Bill Clinton signed a tripartite agree with Ukraine and Russian assuring Ukraine's territorial integrity.

That doc was never submitted to the US Senate for ratification due to widespread DERISION by several senior senators and foreign policy guru's. Mostly Republicans.

It would have committed the USA to Existential War to protect Ukraine.

And that would have been downright stupid.

Oh, it was never submitted to the Russian Duma for ratification either.

37 posted on 08/15/2014 11:57:32 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

In other words the Ukraine kept up their side of a bargain that nobody else took seriously.


38 posted on 08/15/2014 11:59:41 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL
"In other words the Ukraine kept up their side of a bargain that nobody else took seriously."

Precisely correct.

39 posted on 08/15/2014 12:01:19 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Zhang Fei

The worse choice for the Ukrainians was to not hit the Russian military inside Ukraine.

The courage of these Ukrainians who fight for independence impresses me to no end.


40 posted on 08/15/2014 12:02:35 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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