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Go big: Immigration activists beg Obama to legalize eight million illegals or more
Hot Air ^ | August 11, 2014 | Allahpundit

Posted on 08/11/2014 7:31:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The number kicked around for the past few months was five or six million. That’s not good enough for immigration groups, who want to see something closer to eight figures. And once you’re creeping up towards 10 million, there’s really no point in having eligibility criteria at all. Just legalize everyone, no questions asked.

Honestly, if we’re going to have the president dictate national policy, what’s the sense in demanding that he do it by half-measures? Instead of dipping a toe into our new antidemocratic age, let’s swan dive.

Marielena Hincapié, the executive director of the National Immigration Law Center, said that’s a start but it must go farther.

“I think that will be part of it, parents of U.S. citizens, but I don’t think they can stop there, they can try,” she told BuzzFeed. “There are also parents of DREAMers, and the vehicle for that to happen is deferred action.”…

“The NILC is thinking much broader,” Hincapié said. “We believe he has strong legal footing to provide broad and expansive relief like the 9 to 10 million in the Senate bill. As long as the administration can develop a clear set of criteria like family ties or ties to the U.S. workforce, I can see that businesses would want workers to be included even if they don’t have citizen family members.”…

[Lorella Praeli of United We Dream] added that DACA should be revamped because some people, like well-known activist Jose Antonio Vargas, aged out and were not eligible for legal status from the program.

She said her organization believes 6 to 8 million people could be protected by the president, rather than 2 or 3 million.

Parents of citizens, parents of DREAMers, would-be DREAMers who are too old for DREAM now, even people with “ties to the workforce” — who would be left once the eligibility lines are drawn that broadly? When the dust settles, the only person who doesn’t qualify will be one old man from Guatemala who got here less than a year ago, and then we’ll go ahead and legalize him too just because it’d be cruel to leave him out. But maybe I’m reading this wrong; maybe the reason amnesty shills are upping their demands is because they know the drift in public opinion is towards security and away from legalization, in which case the only way to make Obama stand firm at five or six million is to try pulling him even further left. In fact, here’s a tantalizing poll from last week that Laura Ingraham mentioned on the air today:

Immigration is only the 6th-most-important issue for Latino voters in California when casting a vote for a candidate for U.S. Senator or for U.S. Congress, according to a statewide survey conducted by Univision…

An overwhelming 86% of those surveyed support comprehensive immigration reform. However, a majority–53%–of registered Latino voters in California also answered that they believe that, “…we should require borders to be secured before providing a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants.”

Furthermore, when asked, “Which of the following is your major concern or complaint about the Republican Party?”, only ten percent of those surveyed named Republican opposition to immigration reform.

Luis Gutierrez has taken to threatening Republicans with the prospect of two million new Latino voters racing to the polls in November, but the reality is different. It’s older white voters who turn out en masse for midterms; Latino turnout tends to drop off, which is why Brendan Nyhan of The Upshot calls O’s impending decision to issue his mass amnesty before November instead of after “inexplicable.” It’s really not inexplicable — he seems convinced that his base will stay home if he doesn’t do something flashy on immigration, the risk of a backlash notwithstanding. But the higher activists’ expectations get, the more of a bind it puts O in. Conceivably, he could legalize a million illegals and infuriate both the right (which opposes executive amnesty on principle) and the left (which wants the broadest executive amnesty possible). Good luck, champ.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; dreamers; immigration; obama
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1 posted on 08/11/2014 7:31:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the 25+ years since the 1987 amnesty only 27%, as of this date, applied for amnesty.


2 posted on 08/11/2014 7:34:19 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes please do it. Then not one democrat will be elected in November. The illegal decree will be overthrown, and ferguson will look like a Teddy Bears picnic.


3 posted on 08/11/2014 7:35:42 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The thing is, what is the point of amnesty? As of now anybody who wants to, can cross right over the border and do anything, and get anything they want, and Obama will yawn and go play golf. To me it seems the ONLY purpose for this “amnesty” crap is so illegals can vote for Democraps, and these morons posing as Republicans are going right along with it.


4 posted on 08/11/2014 7:38:41 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Documentation File on the 2014 Impeachment of B. Hussein Obama, aka “Barry Soetoro,” a former Foreign Student from Indonesia, and still a legal Citizen of the sovereign Nation of Indonesia.


5 posted on 08/11/2014 7:48:27 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

if churches say anything political, they are accused of electioneering.

Yet Liberal Dems can forceably import millions of votes, and it’s not electioneering?


6 posted on 08/11/2014 7:49:56 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanksgiving weekend 2014.


7 posted on 08/11/2014 7:50:39 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is it about securing our borders FIRST, last and always, do Communists not get about INVASION? INVASION is not a refugee status event and it is not an “immigration” issue.

This INVASION business needs to be fought out in elections where the voice of the people can be reasonably be given a hearing to say, “Border security first”.

No one has explained to me, including these several noisy Catholic bishops running around selling open borders, exactly what is wrong with *current* immigration law.

And, what does “comprehensive” immigration reform even mean?

Nothing is clear.


8 posted on 08/11/2014 7:50:48 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team fmore Marxists coming.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama cannot legalize anyone. All he can do is illegally refuse to enforce the current law.


9 posted on 08/11/2014 7:53:15 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: RitaOK

“And, what does “comprehensive” immigration reform even mean?”

It means the bill will be so cumbersome that nobody understands it. “comprehensive”= “incomprehensible”.
Think of Nancy Pelosi saying we have to vote for it so we can find out what is in it.


10 posted on 08/11/2014 7:57:16 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

EXX-ZZACTLY!

How does Jack Daniels Boehner really think this flies out here? Even Cruz has not spelled it out what the R’s actually have in mind. They probably don’t know, for all the time spent in smoke and mirrors, how could they?

Another “pass it to see whut the h€// is in it”.


11 posted on 08/11/2014 8:08:28 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team fmore Marxists coming.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“As long as the administration can develop a clear set of criteria like family ties or ties to the U.S. workforce...”

And of course, welfare benefits.


12 posted on 08/11/2014 8:11:50 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We should forcibly deport EVERY person who is illegally in the USA!


13 posted on 08/11/2014 8:21:49 PM PDT by Taxman (I am mad as Hell and I am not going to take it any more!)
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To: Petrosius

He can’t do that unilaterally without congress either, according to the Oath of Office and the Constitution.

Why it does not rise to high crimes against defending and protecting the Constitution, I’m sure I don’t know.

Obama’s intentional solicitation for the broad breach of our border and our national security, by collaboration with foreign invaders should qualify as Treason, with a capital “T”, when thousands of crimes, murders, and trafficking pile up to prove it.


14 posted on 08/11/2014 8:23:24 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team fmore Marxists coming.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“To me it seems the ONLY purpose for this “amnesty” crap is so illegals can vote for Democraps, and these morons posing as Republicans are going right along with it.”

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Without any doubt.


15 posted on 08/11/2014 8:27:59 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“As of now anybody who wants to, can cross right over the border and do anything, and get anything they want, and Obama will yawn and go play golf.”

This sort of thing is not unprecedented. Remember how Nero yawned and played the fiddle while Rome burned.


16 posted on 08/11/2014 8:28:05 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can do better, let’s just take large cargo ships and send them to China and India and bring 500 million of those humans with pitiful lives and bring them over.

Idiots.


17 posted on 08/11/2014 8:32:38 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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18 posted on 08/11/2014 8:33:54 PM PDT by Iron Munro (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government --- Thomas Paine)
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To: RitaOK

Politicians have been running their mouths for years about “reform” all the while promising enforcement and border control but in all those years they have NEVER seen to it that laws where enforced or that the border is secure.

Politicians - Democrat AND Republican - ARE the problem.

NOTHING will change until YOU do not elect Democrats or Republicans. (not you RitaOK, you as in all citizens)


19 posted on 08/11/2014 8:52:18 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I click on the Weather Channel to check out the weather, and there story is about “migrants” and the “undocumented” dying in the Desert. The cruelty in the Pro-Illegal-Immigrant Lobby encouraging the “migrants” knows no bounds.
http://stories.weather.com/realdeathvalley


20 posted on 08/11/2014 8:55:28 PM PDT by machogirl
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