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Double blow for Putin as Ukraine rebels suffer setbacks, West prepares to levy more sanctions
FOX NEWS ^ | 29 Jul 14 | FOX NEWS

Posted on 07/29/2014 10:02:54 AM PDT by elhombrelibre

Pro-Russia rebels in eastern Ukraine reportedly have suffered their biggest battlefield setbacks in months as the U.S. and European countries prepare to ramp up pressure on Russian leader Vladimir Putin by imposing more sanctions against Moscow later this week.

The Wall Street Journal reported that Ukraine army forces had made rapid gains near the site where Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 crashed July 17 and were apparently trying to split the territory held by the rebels into two parts between the major cities of Donetsk and Luhansk. Officials on both sides of the fighting also told the Journal that the Ukraine army was attempting to cut off supply lines from Russia to the rebels.

Igor Girkin, a Russian citizen who is the top defense official in the separatist Donetsk People's Republic, also said Monday that more than 100 wounded separatist fighters had been evacuated to Russia because "I can't rule out the total siege of Donetsk from all sides."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: mh17; russia; terrorism; ukraine
Any defeat for Putinista Russian chauvinism is a good reason to dance a jig or have a good drink! Igor Girgin is a FSB agent. He may cut-n-run now that the Putinista army is taking a whipping.
1 posted on 07/29/2014 10:02:54 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre

Posted as Breaking News. Come on man. Putin is inside your guy’s heads.


2 posted on 07/29/2014 10:04:37 AM PDT by McGruff (Was George Bush a Putinista?)
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To: elhombrelibre

If the Ukrainian (oops, I mean reactionary fascist) Army is truly making gains, that would explain why the FR Borscht Brigade is whining for a ceasefire.


3 posted on 07/29/2014 10:10:43 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: elhombrelibre
Igor Girkin, a Russian citizen who is the top defense official in the separatist Donetsk People's Republic
civil war.
4 posted on 07/29/2014 10:12:07 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: 1rudeboy

If Putin rolled the rest of his army thugs over the border, you wouldn’t hear them cry for a ceasefire.


5 posted on 07/29/2014 10:15:25 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Russian chauvinists like Girkin and our local Putinists consider Ukraine to be a part of Russia. So for them this is a civil war. Too bad for them Ukrainians decided to fight for their country.


6 posted on 07/29/2014 10:15:27 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: elhombrelibre

Putin has poor judgment. His reaction to more failures might be to engage in more acts of terrorism.


7 posted on 07/29/2014 10:18:08 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: lodi90

Time to make the Russian people personally suffer for the choices they endorse.


8 posted on 07/29/2014 10:20:23 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Nope. It would be like the invasion of Georgia all over again, with all the hoopin' and hollerin' (and claiming it's really America's fault).

I don't think they'll try to convince us that the Ukrainians are Muslims, though, as they did with the Georgians.

9 posted on 07/29/2014 10:20:52 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: lodi90
Russian chauvinists like Girkin and our local Putinists consider Ukraine to be a part of Russia. So for them this is a civil war.
Lithuania
The Minister only roughly outlined the sanctions on the table in Vilnius, including the ban on entry for Russian citizens who support Russia’s policy in Ukraine, ITAR-TASS reports.
10 posted on 07/29/2014 10:21:53 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: 1rudeboy
....reactionary fascist Army

Yabut they're OUR reactionary fascist army. Question is, if they really throw a beating to Putin's Pals, what will he do?

I think all Putin wanted was The Crimea. Maybe his Russki Rebels ain't as smart (or as tough) as he thought. BTW, as in any Civil War, neither side is really the side of the angels. There are enough vowel-deprived nasties on the ground to throw a 5-sided Civil War, with maybe a jihad or two extra.

Who would be Czar these days, just in case?

11 posted on 07/29/2014 10:25:01 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: 1rudeboy

The mask fell off and the ugly truth is there to stare at: Russian invaders.


12 posted on 07/29/2014 10:25:50 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: lodi90

“our local Putinists consider Ukraine to be a part of Russia”

So many strawmen, so little time.


13 posted on 07/29/2014 10:33:36 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: elhombrelibre

Looks like this is becoming Putin’s Vietnam.

‘Course, If he ramps it up he’ll do just fine. He’d better do it while the leader of the free world is on vacation - the next ~3 years.


14 posted on 07/29/2014 10:54:56 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: elhombrelibre
SEND IN THE HASHTAGS!!!

15 posted on 07/29/2014 11:03:13 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: McGruff
You're so funny. You remind me of a teenaged girl who has a poster of her favorite boy band singer on her wall. I suspect you have one of Putin on your wall.

Don't cry when you finally figure out he's even as big a fraud as Obama and much more dangerous.

16 posted on 07/29/2014 11:06:51 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: 1rudeboy

I think the FR Borscht Brigade is like the Left that used to run all over the world whenever another commie crank came to power, like Castro, the Sandinistas, and Chavez. They’re a little too emotionally committed to people, so much so that they forget loyalty to truth.


17 posted on 07/29/2014 11:09:47 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: McGruff
Posted by Russian soldier in this caravan....his site shut down.....titled the photo...'Grads to Ukraine.....we shall see but I do think they're going to limit exposure to what Russia's doing now in Ukraine....Greenlight go is on IMO.


18 posted on 07/29/2014 11:09:54 AM PDT by caww
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To: Organic Panic

Obama will get no credit for any success at expelling Putin’s proxies.


19 posted on 07/29/2014 11:12:21 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: caww

CONFIRMED: #Kiev fired SS-21 ballistic missiles at E. #Ukraine militia - US intel http://on.rt.com/1q9y34

Justification?


20 posted on 07/29/2014 11:21:04 AM PDT by McGruff (Was George Bush a Putinista?)
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To: McGruff

So weapons of war are used in defense of a country. What is your problem with it? Are you going for the shock effect of the words “ballistic missile” when describing SS-21 with a range of 50-100 miles depending on a model.

To answer your tagline - George Bush was not a Putinista. It is silly to suggest it.


21 posted on 07/29/2014 11:36:07 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: elhombrelibre

The simple-minded will cheer the new sanctions right up until the first European Winter freeze when Putin turns off their gas.

Then they will say “whaaaaaat”?

Never saw it coming.


22 posted on 07/29/2014 2:19:54 PM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: elhombrelibre
Nah. The Borscht Brigade suffers from a slight case of foto-oppo-itis. They see a studly, patriotic dude like Putin wrestling rabid bears, jumping into burning orphanages, flexing the old pecs and six-pack, then you turn the tabloid page and see Barry snuggling and smooching with Reggie, playing golf with the anorexic legs sticking out of Mom shorts, hanging curtains, riding a girl's bike with a doofus helmet ...

Any seriously overweight, heavily tattooed Wal-Mart biker guy would naturally gravitate toward the Russki over the girlie-man President. Of course, unable to read beyond 6th grade level, the majority of the American electorate has no idea where Russia, The Ukraine, or The Crimea (or their state capital) actually are, and doesn't really care about it. When faced with the loss of the EBT, Extended Unemployment, Disability, and whatever, they obviously found it easy to put aside their gender normative revulsion and vote for the weenie anyway! Somebody did.

Somehow, we have to figure out how to take away their candy and win these people back.

23 posted on 07/29/2014 2:20:50 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: Southack

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10981648/Russia-vastly-outgunned-in-economic-showdown-with-West.html


24 posted on 07/29/2014 2:24:44 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Let us hope Ukraine can FINISH OFF the Russian Insurgents! Maybe we need to recruit some Ukrainians to patrol our Southern border!


25 posted on 07/29/2014 2:36:40 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: elhombrelibre

Lol!

The pain point isnt U.S. banking...it is European energy imports. The EU cant shut off Russian banking because they have to pay Russia for their natural gas...or freeze this Winter.


26 posted on 07/29/2014 5:06:10 PM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: Southack
It's not winter.

Quoting from the TELEGRAPH article: "The Kremlin can in theory use gas as a diplomatic weapon but this would ravage Russia’s own economy. It would not achieve much at this time of the year in any case since Europe has built up large gas reserves.

The EU has huge spare capacity for imports of liquefied natural gas (LNG), and there is no longer an acute shortage of global LNG supplies. Several pipelines have been modified since 2009 so that gas can be funnelled both ways, reaching most EU areas. Both Poland and Lithuania will be opening new LNG terminals this year.

Even if Russian cut off gas to Europe, the West could meet its power needs by a variety of means. “If we have to, we can fire up a lot of idle coal-powered plants. It would take time, but only months,” said Professor Alan Riley, from City University.

“The real danger is that we hit Russia too hard and crash the whole Russian economy. Nobody wants to do that,” he said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10981648/Russia-vastly-outgunned-in-economic-showdown-with-West.html

27 posted on 07/29/2014 9:59:39 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: tcrlaf

28 posted on 07/29/2014 11:43:49 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: lodi90

Girkin (aka Lt. Col. Strelkov), has been identified (and in photos) as a Russian GRU (Military Intelligence) officer. He didn’t just pop-up like a piece of toast and assume command of the Donestk region.

He was an agent-in-place long before eastern Ukraine exploded in violent irredentism (to Russia). Remember, Hitler did the same think in the Sudetenland and Danzig, while having useful traitors like Quisling in Norway.

It’s the Russian-German way, now known as the Chicago Way in the US. Infiltrate - forment - conquer (while lying like a Democrat all the way home).


29 posted on 07/30/2014 5:53:16 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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