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Kurds seize two oil fields, pull out of Iraqi government
AFP, BBC, NPR, New York Times via Hotair ^ | 07/11/2014 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 07/11/2014 11:21:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: 1010RD

That was the PKK, a Kurdish Workers Party in Southeastern Turkey.


41 posted on 07/13/2014 9:17:31 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: 353FMG

~Is Islam better than communism?~

I don’t want to look like a communist sympathizer but yes, communism is better than islam.

Both are as much a failure in short to mid-term but unlike islam, communism tends to republican form of government and also communists thinks high about education which is not the case for islam.

Both features are also a primary reasons why communism cannot exist in a long run, because being applied to a primitive society, it produces a number of smart people who tends to see bullcrap behind the rest of a communist ideology. And said societies already have executive, legal and civil judicial system largely similar in form to the free world. All communist societies are republics, there are no socialist kingdoms or theocracies, so all they need is to fix rules.
I short, to transform a communist society into a free republic, given you have enough open-minded people, you need free elections to make your Soviet into Parliament and break a one-party rule and to make courts independent from an executive branch.
It is not if it is that easy but the road to freedom is much shorter for post-communists than for typical 7-th century feudal theocracy, which is an average muslim society is.


42 posted on 07/13/2014 10:04:34 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: SeekAndFind
...”The Kurdish delegation in Iraq’s parliament has walked out, as have Kurdish ministers in Maliki’s government”....

Happy to see that....but no surprise. It was simply a matter of acquiring the oil fields... and as important buyers. Kurds are known to be a fair people overall so in business they'll be well received...at least as long as they can control their areas. Not sure Turkey will go along with that indefinitely....they could throw an iron in that pot at any time.

43 posted on 07/14/2014 1:08:36 AM PDT by caww
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To: Bringbackthedraft

...”The Great Saladin of Crusades fame was a Kurd”....

Oh that’s very interesting! I didn’t know that, though I understand some of his history regarding the Crusades ,,,so that’s very interesting indeed.


44 posted on 07/14/2014 1:13:59 AM PDT by caww
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To: SeekAndFind

Kurdish Iraq...

Sunni Iraq...

Sucky Iraq...

They all need their little private parts...[pun intended]


45 posted on 07/14/2014 5:25:38 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: Southack

The amount of “terror” as you put it cannot possibly “double”???

It can be better defined...Located, dealt with...

Do you thinking that Iraq, as it once was, is salvageable as a country, or sovereign nation, in the world???

Just curious...


46 posted on 07/14/2014 5:29:23 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Central Iraq then needs to be a Kurdish Protectorate.


47 posted on 07/14/2014 5:41:16 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sacajaweau
"The Kurds do not need the sunnis and shites."

The 46" pipelines from Kirkuk to Turkey runs through Sunni/ISIS territory. IOW, until a new pipeline is created the Kurds need agreements with Sunnis to move their oil.


48 posted on 07/14/2014 6:05:05 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Southack
The Sunni/ISIS areas have oil fields.

And these are just the official fields. I've traveled in Babil province, in the central part of the country where no oilfields supposedly are and oil bubbles from the ground and pollutes fields.

I've long said the country is awash in oil. All that the 3 defacto Iraqi states need to do is come to agreement on oil export routes and refinery product access. Then they can all get rich and have cheap petroleum products for their people. We'll see if they can get along for such a clear advantage.

49 posted on 07/14/2014 6:18:46 AM PDT by Justa
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To: taxcontrol
Maybe we should just stop arming anyone. The Kurds now have oil revenue, they have an intelligent and determined population, and they know who their enemies are.

We wouldn't have ISIS if the US didn't decide that Assad had to go. Now the only intelligent thing to do would be to support Assad and try to contain ISIS.

50 posted on 07/14/2014 6:23:00 AM PDT by grania
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To: 1010RD

Are they (Kurds) still tied to communism?

The joke is that they have a mixed economy - both Barzani and Talabani types of business. Corruption and nepotism seem to trump any ideology. Despite corruption, they have instituted business friendly policies.

The general standard of living for the population in Iraqi Kurdistan is rising as well, well above the rest of Iraq. Thousands of Kurds have become millionaires. Free trade zones have been established with Turkey and Iran. Oil leases were granted to American companies.

Historically, all the Kurdish parties back in the 1940’s and 1950s looked to the Soviet Union for support, and they had their own communist party, as well as many ideological socialists.

Starting in the 1960’s the KDP (the now dominant Barzani party centered in Irbil) started cultivating the USA and Israel (and Iran) for support, and has maintained those relations since. The KDP has long tried to position themselves as an umbrella organization, with room for socialists and conservative tribal philosopies.

The PUK (Talabani-led party from Sulaymaniyah) have always been socialists, and are a member of the Socialist International.


51 posted on 07/14/2014 11:06:47 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: SeekAndFind

Frankly, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Israelis and the Kurds were allied in the effort to stop the Islamofascists being ignored (or aided) by Obama.


52 posted on 07/15/2014 1:46:29 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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