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Freepers Openly Supporting Liberal Democrats - Alison Lundergan Grimes
Free Republic ^ | June 26, 2014 | Salf/Vanity

Posted on 06/26/2014 10:01:59 AM PDT by ifinnegan

I never thought I would see the day when there were participants in this forum openly advocating voting for a liberal Democrat.

Yet that is what many are doing in advocating Kentuckians vote for Alison Lundergan Grimes.

This makes no sense unless one is a liberal or leftist anti-American or are unable to move beyond emotion and irrationality or a nihilist mind set that lets anger, fear, lack of faith and hatred dominate one's logical faculties.

Alison Lundergan Grimes was born in 1978. That's the year I graduated High school. Many here are older than I, and in politics, at 53 I am not all that old.

This liberal Democrat leftist, Alison Lundergan Grimes, is 36 years old. She is a baby in politics.

If she wins this seat now she will be in the Senate for 40 years.

By contrast, McConnell is an old man who will be gone after this term.

Those supporting the liberal Democrat leftist, Alison Lundergan Grimes, for Senate are going to simply make possible another Feinstein, or Boxer or any such left wing corrupt Marxist-thinking Senator with a Seat-For-Life.

Setting up a permanent seat in the Senate for a liberal leftist Democrat in a state where it is possible to avoid this plague, is not a good idea.

It may feel good emotionally to see the reprehensible, Mitch-I-want-to-punch-the-Tea-Party-in-the-nose McConnell lose, but the negative consequences are greater than the fleeting enjoyment of seeing McConnell lose.


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This is a political issue of course, but it also seems a spiritual issue.
1 posted on 06/26/2014 10:02:00 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

And what is your opinion on the Democrap vs. Democrap race in Mississippi?

No evidence to suggest Childers is any more liberal than Thad Cockring.


2 posted on 06/26/2014 10:04:36 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: ifinnegan

A fair argument, but the Republican party needs to be broken before we end up with a viable opposition party. Lesser of two evils has gotten us nowhere.

I suspect McConnell win this just like he beat down a viable opponent in the primary. He’s got unlimited resources. That said, I will shed not a tear if he is gone.


3 posted on 06/26/2014 10:06:33 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: ifinnegan

While I won’t vote for Grimes, I won’t vote for McConnell either.

You don’t crap on your base during the primaries, then turn around and ask for a buck and a vote.

If I can, I’ll write in Matt Bevin, the man I voted for in the Primary.

I’m sick unto death of holding my nose and voting for the GOP-E pansy just because there’s an (R) next to his name.

There is no difference in D vs. R anymore. Only whether we drive off the cliff at 60mph or 90mph.


4 posted on 06/26/2014 10:06:52 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Scheming demons dressed in kingly guise, beating down the multitudes and scoffing at the wise.")
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To: ifinnegan
There is no difference between the controlling Republicans and the Democrats. They are just the GOP-wing of the Democrat Party.

The only way to dis-empower them is to dis-empower them.

5 posted on 06/26/2014 10:07:35 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: ifinnegan

It is spiritual. Those who would support a Democrat because they don’t like the Republican are badly misguided. If you thought a Christian was hypocritical liar, would you then support a Muslim.


6 posted on 06/26/2014 10:07:59 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: ifinnegan

When someone, i.e., Mitch Mcconnell, says they are going to crush you - you must answers in terms they understand. This is a war. remember?


7 posted on 06/26/2014 10:08:14 AM PDT by true believer forever (Lord, Give me this mountain.)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

McConnell needs to go...no difference between him and a Democrat.


8 posted on 06/26/2014 10:08:23 AM PDT by gwgn02
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To: Viennacon

In the Mississippi case, McDaniel should first challenge as many of Cochran’s votes as he can.

If that is not successful, McDaniel should run a write in campaign.

DO NOT VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRAT!

In the case of McConnell?

Also DO NOT VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRAT!

Grow up, swallow your pride, and realize that the purpose of your vote is ALWAYS to defeat the worst candidate.

ALWAYS!


9 posted on 06/26/2014 10:08:29 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: ifinnegan

I will NO longer be cowed. They have cowed us for years with these arguments. Decades. And what do we get? RINOs galore. Sometimes the fix hurts. But fix it we will. They GOPe KNOWS they will get enough of us to think this way. But not this time.

And incumbency isn’t what it once was.


10 posted on 06/26/2014 10:08:42 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: ifinnegan

You might try that “spiritual issue” argument with Thad Cochran, Haley Barbour, and McConnell after they openly pursued Democrats to defeat an actual conservative and save a Progressive Republican.


11 posted on 06/26/2014 10:09:03 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: ifinnegan

Since you post this vanity, which by the way was not very well written,
tell us what McConnell has done to fight the democrats and Obama?

Please give us some specific examples, so we can begin debate on this poorly
written vanity post.


12 posted on 06/26/2014 10:09:09 AM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being pissed on by their own party!)
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To: ifinnegan
Those supporting the liberal Democrat leftist, Alison Lundergan Grimes, for Senate are going to simply make possible another Feinstein, or Boxer

I get your point but it's far from accurate to compare California to Kentucky.

13 posted on 06/26/2014 10:09:20 AM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

I will never vote for nor prostrate myself before an immoral or ethical man.

First rule.


14 posted on 06/26/2014 10:11:07 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Bogey78O

Principal means nothing to a RINO...and we see what they do to good men with principal...actually I’ll revise my words...RINO’s like McConnell are WORSE than Democrats. With Democrats at least they tell you who they are.


15 posted on 06/26/2014 10:12:35 AM PDT by gwgn02
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

This post is by a McConnell campaign staffer.

All campaigns now have employees who post on websites like Free Republic to influence the outcomes of elections.

When you read a post that says McConnell or Thad Cochran is better than the Democrat, just day to yourself, “Another RINO troll.”


16 posted on 06/26/2014 10:12:37 AM PDT by Oak Grove (H)
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To: ifinnegan

Burn the GOP-E to the ground and salt the earth underneath it. No more lessers of evil...Mitch is behind most of the shenanigans going on against Conservative candidates today, and so he needs to go. Period.


17 posted on 06/26/2014 10:14:26 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: ifinnegan

I don’t like old turkey neck either, but there is no way I could be so stupid to sit it out or vote for Grimes. She is good looking though.


18 posted on 06/26/2014 10:15:12 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Kenny

Yes.


19 posted on 06/26/2014 10:15:14 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

Taking out a leader is more than just taking out a senator or rep, it is taking out their tenacles, their networks, their hold on all sorts of perks, and their toadies. That is why Cantor’s loss caused such an audible gasp among the elites.

I support this strategy. I would like both, but if mcconnell is necessary to hold the senate, then a boehner loss will send a mighty big message — fear us. Right now, they don’t fear us. First, they must fear us.

The Tough Toad to Knocking out John Boehner:

http://thedavelevineshow.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-tough-road-to-knocking-out-boehner-but-it-has-to-be-done-by


21 posted on 06/26/2014 10:16:16 AM PDT by true believer forever (Lord, Give me this mountain.)
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To: ifinnegan
Liberal republicans must be politically destroyed, and denied a Senate majority.

/johnny

22 posted on 06/26/2014 10:17:21 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ifinnegan

Here’s a hammer.

You may either smash your own hand with it, or strike out at your tormentor - who claims he is serving your interests by working against your interests.

You are saying conservatives should continue breaking the bones in their own hands.


23 posted on 06/26/2014 10:17:51 AM PDT by MortMan ("Homeland" may be a documentary.)
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To: Kenny

Tell us what McConnell has done to fight the democrats and Obama.
As minority leader give us specific examples of what McConnell
has done.
The GOPe’s will give it to you, as long as you enjoy taking it.


24 posted on 06/26/2014 10:17:55 AM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being pissed on by their own party!)
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To: ifinnegan

Voting for a democrat is almost always a bad idea, I would suggesting finding a conservative 3rd party candidate on the ballot (there almost always is one) and voting for them instead. If there is not a 3rd party conservative then either skip that race or do a write in. Mitch declared war on Tea Party conservatives and said he would crush them thru out the country. I do not expect many TP Conservatives to be voting Mitch in Nov. It’s not smart to reward your enemy with your vote, not smart at all.


25 posted on 06/26/2014 10:17:56 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: ifinnegan

You can withdraw support for a crook without signing on with Satan.


26 posted on 06/26/2014 10:18:03 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: tennmountainman

“...tell us what McConnell has done to fight the democrats and Obama?”

This makes zero logical sense unless you are under the impression that Grimes has fought or will fight the democrats and Obama.

Your post is an example of what I mean by emotion and irrationality.


27 posted on 06/26/2014 10:18:46 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Kenny
Those who would support a Democrat because they don’t like the Republican

Don't like? DON'T LIKE??? It not that we 'don't like' the Republican what we don't like is the GOP Establishment taking a dump on our heads, calling us racists, promising to give away OUR tax money to dependent welfare leeches, lecturing us that we have to give Amnesty to the 3rd World hordes they let in to the country and then have the gall to demand that we for them. The GOP can go straight to hell.

28 posted on 06/26/2014 10:19:43 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: tennmountainman
Since you post this vanity, which by the way was not very well written, tell us what McConnell has done to fight the democrats and Obama?

Ouch, but, right. I'm done with the lesser of evils. These days, (D) or (R), we're headed in the very same direction (RomneyCare, anyone?) At least with the D's, we'll get there quicker and there'll be much less backstabbing along the way. Dunno about y'all, but I prefer to have the enemy out front where I can see them. I say, bring it on.

29 posted on 06/26/2014 10:20:56 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: jpsb
Voting for a democrat is almost always a bad idea, I would suggesting finding a conservative 3rd party candidate on the ballot (there almost always is one) and voting for them instead.

Absolutely correct — this is exactly what I did in 2012: I went w/ Gary Johnson (former gov of my State) rather than vote for ObamaClone Romney.

30 posted on 06/26/2014 10:21:20 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

For the longest time the argument was we needed to support the candidate that was the best we could get in an area. With Bevin and McDaniel we had better candidates than we had in that area but due to the vanity of the leadership they were betrayed.

Not just abandoned. They were attacked and treated awful.

I can not support the RSCC anymore. I will vote Republican as I please and abstain otherwise. But I will not support immoral men ever.


31 posted on 06/26/2014 10:21:27 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: ifinnegan
McConnell has provided critical cloture votes to help Reid's agenda. Like with the removal of the debt limit.

Liberal republicans like McConnell must be politically destroyed to save the Republic.

/johnny

32 posted on 06/26/2014 10:21:52 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Liberal republicans must be politically destroyed, and denied a Senate majority

YES!

33 posted on 06/26/2014 10:22:01 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: Bogey78O

My keyboard goofed so I had to restart. “Unethical”


34 posted on 06/26/2014 10:22:30 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: ifinnegan

Mitch McConnell is a vile and dangerous oligarch. He will not retire and he will not step down as leader of the republicans in the Senate. That means he must be removed by the people. They failed in denying him the republican nomination in the primary so the only recourse left is to remove him from power in November.

Of necessity, that means that a democrat would take the seat. So be it.


35 posted on 06/26/2014 10:22:39 AM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: ifinnegan
Does not make Any sense to me. But, if Lindsey Graham were the “Republican” I would vote for the donk simply because they could not do as much damage to us as McCain and Graham
36 posted on 06/26/2014 10:22:57 AM PDT by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is a feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing corksucker.)
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To: ifinnegan

It does make sense.
You just cannot provide any examples, because there are no examples
to provide. You will have to do better than GOP good, RATs bad, especially
after the despicable race run by the GOPe’s in MS.
As long as there are people like you who take it, the GOPe’s will certainly
give it.


37 posted on 06/26/2014 10:23:09 AM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being pissed on by their own party!)
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To: tennmountainman
Tell us what McConnell has done to fight the democrats and Obama.

I hate McConnell, would never vote for him, and would fight like hell if I could stop him in the primary.

But I will never support a Democrat. They're defending the IRS, their guys in the WH, stalling and blocking every step of the way. Once Obama's Muslim brothers have finished with Iraq, they're moving in our direction. There's much more at stake today than RINOs. Our future, kid's futures are in danger.

Get your priorities straight. Politics isn't the big issue right now, stopping ISIS, the IRS, EPA and the rest is what has to be done. And please, no lectures on the master plan to get rid of the GOP, no time left for that.

38 posted on 06/26/2014 10:23:40 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: ifinnegan
Have always found mcconnell sings this song ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuULXvBPW4U ... and then always turns his back on Conservatives and says love me, while saying Conservatives should vote for him because he hates them ... but I only have family in Kentucky and cannot vote there.
39 posted on 06/26/2014 10:24:58 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: ifinnegan

It is easier to fight a known ENEMY, than the Democrats AND our own party “leadership.”


40 posted on 06/26/2014 10:25:01 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I agree. We have 2 liberal parties and need none.


41 posted on 06/26/2014 10:25:26 AM PDT by paintriot
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Fine, send the GOP straight to hell, I’m with you. But don’t take the rest of the country down with them by voting Democrat.


42 posted on 06/26/2014 10:26:02 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman
I don’t like old turkey neck either, but there is no way I could be so stupid to sit it out or vote for Grimes

Fortunately, that is how the vast majority of Republicans/conservatives will see it. It is only a tiny minority of people that act out like this and start talking about voting Democrat or 3rd party.

She is good looking though.

Perhaps the only thing that gives her any chance at all, though I'd guess McConnell will end up winning by 4-5 points. Obama is just so unpopular it is a tough hurdle for just about any Democrat in the South and/or coal country.

43 posted on 06/26/2014 10:26:07 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Kenny
no time left for that.

You'll just have to cope. Those of us working to politically destroy liberal republicans won't stop because you say to.

Get used to it. You are powerless to direct or control our votes or our actions.

/johnny

44 posted on 06/26/2014 10:26:25 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kenny
Get your priorities straight. Politics isn't the big issue right now, stopping ISIS, the IRS, EPA and the rest is what has to be done

And the GOPe is going to do that? I seem to recall a GOPe controlled House, Senate & WH from 2000-2006. Did they do it then? Did they abolish the IRS? Did they expand personal freedoms? Did they abolish the EPA? No, they gave us the Patriot Act. Your argument is ill informed and, if given your wish, will only go against you. At this point, the GOPe must be destroyed, if we ever want to get to true Conservatism.

45 posted on 06/26/2014 10:27:38 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: Kenny

The GOP can stop those Obama polices you mentioned now.
The GOP has a majority in the House NOW. They have the power of the purse to defund these policies NOW.

It is you that needs a reality check.

Once again, tell us what McConnell has done to fight the democrats
and Obama?


46 posted on 06/26/2014 10:29:40 AM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being pissed on by their own party!)
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To: ifinnegan

For those calling for unity; there is nothing easier than telling the guy you just beat that he should forget the depths you plumbed to do so.


47 posted on 06/26/2014 10:29:59 AM PDT by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: dware

Did the GOPe do jack about the border problem while they had 8 years? Nope. Did they reign in spending, control the debt? Nope they grew it.

Get rid of McConnell...he’s a progressive.


48 posted on 06/26/2014 10:30:04 AM PDT by gwgn02
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To: amnestynone

Does not make Any sense to me. But, if Lindsey Graham were the “Republican” I would vote for the donk simply because they could not do as much damage to us as McCain and Graham


I know what you mean, but when moving away from emotion and looking at this realistically, they can and do and will, in fact, do a lot more damage than the GOP-e.


49 posted on 06/26/2014 10:32:35 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: gwgn02
Get rid of McConnell...he’s a progressive.

With friends like McConnell, who needs democrats? =D

50 posted on 06/26/2014 10:33:15 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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