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California, Amtrak end joint high-speed train bid
ap ^ | June 20, 2014 | JULIET WILLIAMS

Posted on 06/22/2014 7:46:18 AM PDT by george76

The agencies said their needs are too different and manufacturers are not yet ready to build trains that can run on both Amtrak's 100-year-old rail lines and the high-speed corridors planned for California's system.

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Several unfavorable court rulings have also delayed work. In the most high-profile case, a Sacramento County Superior Court judge halted the sale of $8.6 billion in state rail bonds and ordered the state to write a new funding plan, delaying work on the first 28-mile segment from Madera to Fresno. The state has appealed.

But the $108 billion budget that Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown signed Friday includes a $250 million gift for the project in the coming fiscal year from the state's cap-and-trade greenhouse-gas emissions fund and

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: agenda21; amtrak; capandtrade; highspeedrail; highspeedtrain; highspeedtrains; unagenda21

1 posted on 06/22/2014 7:46:18 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76
You mean two boondoggles cannot coexist?
2 posted on 06/22/2014 7:48:50 AM PDT by Fungi
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To: Fungi

The only high speed rail anything that would be profitable is the one from the Mexican Border to Los Angeles and they actually made the illegals pay cash for their ride.


3 posted on 06/22/2014 7:50:20 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: george76
UN Agenda 21.

Evacuate the middle of the country and herd all the human livestock to high-rise containment facilities on both coasts.

Connect the high-rise containment facilities with high-speed rail.

Just like Hunger Games.

4 posted on 06/22/2014 7:58:14 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Fungi

“You mean two boondoggles cannot coexist? “

No. They will coexist. They just won’t run on same tracks.


5 posted on 06/22/2014 8:24:42 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: george76
...includes a $250 million gift for the project in the coming fiscal year from the state's cap-and-trade greenhouse-gas emissions...

Actually a union payoff using money involuntarily seized from the taxpayers for other purposes. Libs are always so generous with OPM.

6 posted on 06/22/2014 8:30:33 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: TexasGator

LOL


7 posted on 06/22/2014 8:33:17 AM PDT by Fungi
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To: george76

Cancel the whole thing and refund to the taxpayers!


8 posted on 06/22/2014 8:47:31 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: george76

If they can pay for it with Federal funds, it will be free, so it will be good for the economy. They could also set very high tolls on the competing roads — that would also be free, and would help the economy. Add in huge gas taxes, which cost nothing, and you have the stage for an economic miracle. This is a win, win, win for us all. I can’t believe how smart we all are. Oh, and also, more free stuff, they should not charge fares for anyone under 30, over 40, unemployed, of color, undocumented, who smells, or has live chickens, because this would all be free and would cost nothing.


9 posted on 06/22/2014 8:57:26 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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Cal High-Speed Rail is a mighty dumb road,
Cal High-Speed Rail’s gonna take some bribes
Cal High-Speed Rail is a mighty dumb road
Try to fund it, go and buy yourself a pundit
Go and lobby at the statehouse for the Cal High-Speed Rail

Well it won’t be cheap and it won’t go far
But they’re gonna make you dump your car

Oh, loonies in the West with their high-speed rail
Gov’nah Moonbeam going to fund some fail
Amtrak train on a high-speed track
It’s already cancelled, but you’ll see it back


10 posted on 06/22/2014 9:00:24 AM PDT by niteowl77 (The five stages of Progressive persuasion: lecture, nudge, shove, arrest, liquidate.)
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To: george76

Note to Gov. Brown.

Just because you are a Democratic ‘chump’ does not mean that by gifting the grifters you favor with $250,000,000 will cause the rest of us to allow the FedGov to dump any of our money into your rail delusion.

In the total cost of that rail delusion, your $250,000,000 is mere ‘chump change’ - got that, “Chump”?


11 posted on 06/22/2014 10:02:26 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and for what Muslims do.)
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To: george76; Willie Green

williegreen memorial and hi-speed choo-choo ping


12 posted on 06/22/2014 10:54:48 AM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: george76

They are understated the costs. The only way can cut the costs down by using the old rail line. The court made the right ruling.


13 posted on 06/22/2014 12:28:57 PM PDT by Libertynotfree (Over spending, Over taxes, and Over regulation)
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To: george76

Nice to see McCarthy blocking it...maybe we can do business with him after.

In the end, if California REALLY WANTS a high-speed train, they have an economy large enough to build it themselves, and that’s what they should be doing.


14 posted on 06/22/2014 2:08:06 PM PDT by BobL
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“This high-speed rail is cheaper than more freeway lanes and more airport runways,” Brown said Friday.”

The First Amendments protects the right of politicians to tell BLATANT LIES...and this is one of them. The cost comparison is not even close.


15 posted on 06/22/2014 2:10:08 PM PDT by BobL
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