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Iraq's Maliki: I won't quit as condition of US strikes against Isis militants
The Guardian ^ | June 19, 2014 | Martin Chulov, Spencer Ackerman

Posted on 06/19/2014 6:40:09 AM PDT by huldah1776

"A spokesman for the Iraqi prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, has said he will not stand down as a condition of US air strikes against Sunni militants who have made a lightning advance across the country."

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Dianne Feinstein, the chair of the Senate intelligence committee, told a hearing on Wednesday that Maliki's government "has got to go if you want any reconciliation", and Republican John McCain called for the use of US air power but also urged Obama to "make very clear to Maliki that his time is up".

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Obama is said to be still weighing military options, and US officials for days have quietly signalled that a decision is not imminent.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airstrikes; iraq; isis; maliki; obama
Obama told Maliki that he would have to resign to get Obama (not congress) to help with air strikes. I think the deal should have been, "If you resign, I'll resign." Supposedly Maliki doesn't play well with the opposition, maybe even ignores the Iraq constitution.

Well Dianne, to use your quote, Obama has got to go, too, under that criteria.

Seems he is not making a decision to go after the easiest target in toyotas because he is wheeling and dealing with Iran, probably Russia, and not, I bet, Israel.

1 posted on 06/19/2014 6:40:09 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

Sorry, missed the “I” when pasting.


2 posted on 06/19/2014 6:41:04 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

Interesting mistype in the title....

ISIS or Isis (goddess of Egypt)


3 posted on 06/19/2014 6:42:01 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: huldah1776
And replaced by whom? Or what?

Oh. Right. The Moose Limb Brothahoodie.

4 posted on 06/19/2014 6:44:44 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: huldah1776

” - - - - Supposedly Maliki doesn’t play well with the opposition, maybe even ignores the Iraq constitution. - - - - “

Hmmmmm - - - -?

The same thing has been proven to be true about Obama and the US Constitution.

Maliki is a Muslim, and so is Taliban-friendly Obama.

Must be a Muslim thing:
* Do not play well with others.
* Always ignore all Laws.
* Always behave in the most arrogant manner possible.


5 posted on 06/19/2014 6:48:49 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: huldah1776

Isn’t Maliki the democratically elected leader of Iraq?


6 posted on 06/19/2014 7:07:44 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: huldah1776

Why should he this idea of dumping our “ally” as a priority when they are under attack is just kooky bs from the Vietnam war era.

Who the hell is the USA to demand they dump their elected government when they are under military attack? Why would we want that responsibility?

The liberals ALWAYS attack the country we should be helping, instead of the enemy.

When Kuwait was attacked, Bush Sr. didn’t say we were going to reverse the aggression BUT that Kuwait would have to change its government. It wasn’t even brought up.

Can anyone imagine Kerry, Hagel and Obama prosecuting a successful military campaign?

Iraq should ask that we change at least our Secretaries of Defense and State. I’m sure Israel and Saudi Arabia would agree.


7 posted on 06/19/2014 7:11:01 AM PDT by Williams
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To: CitizenUSA

Obama and his illegitimate presidency through voter fraud doesn’t care about rules. FIRST, the US......worked here why not go for the world?


8 posted on 06/19/2014 7:12:49 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: huldah1776

If they force him out, Iraq won’t be run by George Washington. The new guy will be bad too. I have problem with members of both parties trying to remake the Mid East willy-nilly. All it does is bring chaos, and make things worse.


9 posted on 06/19/2014 7:19:01 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: huldah1776

Obama is less popular than al-maliki. They just had elections in may. Al-maliki coalition did better than anyone else and picked up 90+ seats. This was only a month ago!!!


10 posted on 06/19/2014 7:21:43 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: huldah1776
...Dianne Feinstein, the chair of the Senate intelligence committee, told a hearing on Wednesday that Maliki's government "has got to go if you want any reconciliation", and Republican John McCain called for the use of US air power but also urged Obama to "make very clear to Maliki that his time is up"…

Totalitarians dictating politics of foreigners? Feinswine and McInsane, your time is up. RESIGN.

DEPOPULATE totalitarians from the body politic. DEFUND their collectives, foreign and domestic.

11 posted on 06/19/2014 7:22:58 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: huldah1776

12 posted on 06/19/2014 7:38:23 AM PDT by McGruff (What if we bombed our own citizens?)
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To: huldah1776

pretty much makes a lie of any pretense the Iraqis get to elect their leaders...

imagine if FDR told the French before D day
“elect new leaders and we’ll think about getting involved”

Maliki must have some steel in his spine, many arabs would be off to Switzerland with their families and big bank account


13 posted on 06/19/2014 7:38:33 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: huldah1776; plain talk

Just another one of Obama’s unilateral, undesired attempts to do a “regime change” in the ME to benefit radical Islamists. Maliki wasn’t great, but then none of them were/are.

I think this is Obama’s version of the Benghazi video, but staged in Iraq: rather than admit we have been successfully attacked by Islamists, he is trying to portray this vicious attack as just a kind of political protest against Maliki. It’s not.

ISIS came in from the outside and has swept through Iraq, and they’re not boasting about killing Shiites or even killing Iraqis in general. They’re boasting because they have, in their eyes, destroyed the US presence and US influence in Iraq. There may be some Sunni tribes or hangers on in Iraq who see this as an opportunity to get in a few licks against their Shiite rivals, and are supporting ISIS for that reason, but ISIS has killed many Sunnis, too. Their crime? Supporting the modern state of Iraq, being a member of the civil services, or even just opposing the imposition of sharia.

If Maliki quits, Obama will probably give Iraq to an ISIS representative, or conversely, will give it to Iran.


14 posted on 06/19/2014 7:57:12 AM PDT by livius
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To: Graewoulf

exactly my point.


15 posted on 06/19/2014 8:07:48 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

What would it accomplish to change leadership now? ....and to whom? A Sunni? Wasn’t Maliki elected?

We can see how great it has been in the other countries that Obama demanded the leadership be removed. More chaos.

This is stupid.


16 posted on 06/19/2014 8:24:25 AM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: McGruff

I do believe he has one surviving son from his 2nd wife to continue the dynasty. I’m sure as he gets older some one will push him as a candidate to bring stability to Iraq. I think there is an also another surviving grandson from Qusay too.


17 posted on 06/19/2014 8:32:26 AM PDT by bonehead4freedom
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To: Girlene
What would it accomplish to change leadership now? ....and to whom? A Sunni? Wasn’t Maliki elected?

He wasn't directly elected because Iraq has a parliamentary system. The elections decided the 328 members of the Council of Representatives who in turn elected Maliki.
18 posted on 06/19/2014 8:39:50 AM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: huldah1776

Come to think of it, wouldn’t it be convenient for Russia to use Syria ports if travel would be permitted thru Iraq, Iran,and Azerbaijan?

Things are coagulating...

“Iran sees no obstacles to development of relations with Azerbaijan in all spheres”

http://en.trend.az/news/politics/2286514.html

“Azerbaijan deputy FM makes public proposition to Russia”

http://news.am/eng/news/215242.html


19 posted on 06/19/2014 8:48:31 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: CitizenUSA

Hey, that was my question!!!

If a democratic government head can be forced to quit
by coercion from Obama then there is little hope for
ourselves.


20 posted on 06/19/2014 10:10:50 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Chad_the_Impaler

Thank you for that info., but still, he was “indirectly” elected. I’m not sure getting rid of him at this point in time would stop ISIS from advancing or do much of anything of value.


21 posted on 06/19/2014 10:27:08 AM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: huldah1776
The US is being run by a cartel. That is the exact response you would expect from a cartel or the mob.

Yes Vito, we will do this favor for you, but you must do this favor us, capisce ?

This is how a true world leader and honest and moral person would respond.

We will give you everything we can to stop the aggressive Islamic terrorist forces. After we have moved them back and the situation is secure and your countries people are safe, we will discuss future ways to make sure this situation does not occur in the future.

22 posted on 06/19/2014 10:42:29 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: huldah1776

Why doesn’t Maliki bomb the ISIS troops? Iraq must have an Air Force.


23 posted on 06/19/2014 10:44:04 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

They don’t. We blew up what little they had left after 1991 on our way in during 2003. Iraq has been rebuilding since then.

Well they have some fixed-wing aircraft and some helicopters with Hellfire missiles, but nothing substantial. This one guy who used to post here, DJ Elliott, has been following the Iraqi military’s rebuild closely. He used to post at Long War Journal, Bill Roggio’s site.


24 posted on 06/19/2014 4:10:09 PM PDT by ksm1
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So, I guess Feinstein is all for nation building after all.

We sacrifice 5,000 soldiers so the Iraqis can vote. Then we tell them their votes don’t count. Of course, they don’t count here either.


25 posted on 06/19/2014 5:31:58 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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The fact is Maliki can tell Obama and McCain to go eff themselves. They don’t want Iraq to fall anymore than Maliki does. Actually I’m not sure about that.


26 posted on 06/19/2014 5:35:15 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: VerySadAmerican

Obama WANTS Iraq to fall. If it does, he has another thing to blame Bush on.


27 posted on 06/19/2014 7:28:26 PM PDT by ksm1
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To: grania

ah, we were supposed to give them fighters, but hey, come to think of it, COINCIDENTALLY, the delivery wasn’t made. The 200 contractors who were trapped at the airport were preparing for the delivery.

So...the administration and the Russians didn’t want the president of Iraq to get the fighters. Get the rebels of Syria to to to Iraq before they can defend themselves and cause the diversion of non-delivery.


28 posted on 06/19/2014 8:49:32 PM PDT by huldah1776
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