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Letter: Polygamy should be decriminalized
The Las Vegas Sun ^ | June 6, 2014 | Leslie Jacobs

Posted on 06/14/2014 8:33:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

When you look at world history, and especially biblical history, you will find that polygamy has been an accepted and honorable way of life. Many beloved prophets of the Old Testament were polygamists, and Abraham was a friend of God, all while having many wives. Polygamy was once a lifestyle accepted by all.

For Christians of 2000 years ago, polygamy was stopped by the Roman empire.

Paul, in his letter to the church in Rome, said, “A bishop should be the husband of one wife.” He was simply telling them to obey the law of the land. Roman law is alive and well today in America, and we all know what happened to the Roman Empire.

It’s very unfortunate what has happened in Colorado City, Ariz., and in other states. It has given polygamy a terrible name and image....

(Excerpt) Read more at lasvegassun.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Massachusetts; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; husbandofonewife; islam; massachusetts; mormonbashing; pansexuals; polygamy; polygyny; romneyagenda; romneymarriage; rop; utah
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1 posted on 06/14/2014 8:33:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow, how disingenuous to frame Paul’s instruction in such a false manner. Never mind not point out the curses that came upon Israel for its polygyny.


2 posted on 06/14/2014 8:36:49 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah. Just what America needs. A bunch of freeloading clowns pumping out their spawn for the taxpayers to support and raise for them. Morons.


3 posted on 06/14/2014 8:38:36 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

God allowed polygamy, he never approved of it. It didn’t work out too well for Abraham, David, or Solomon.


4 posted on 06/14/2014 8:39:51 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Compared to all of the other vileness we’re into, polygamy is rather benign and old fashioned.


5 posted on 06/14/2014 8:40:16 PM PDT by lurk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Abraham did not have multiple wives, either. Hagar was a mistress, not a wife, and he didn’t marry Keturah until after Sarah died.


6 posted on 06/14/2014 8:43:07 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: lurk

There’s benign vileness?

(Remember, being “vile” means to be utterly morally depraved.)


7 posted on 06/14/2014 8:44:09 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I’m all for it, as long as I don’t have to pay for it.


8 posted on 06/14/2014 8:47:14 PM PDT by Tx Angel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Polygamy, eh? The libertarians are at it again. They are running amuck on FR these days.


9 posted on 06/14/2014 8:48:11 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: sasportas

I hope you don’t mean me. I’m pretty far from a Ron/Rand Paul nut.


10 posted on 06/14/2014 8:49:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No sir, I was referring to the lead article: Leslie Jacobs who wrote the piece for the Las Vegas Sun. Probably a libertarian.


11 posted on 06/14/2014 8:54:12 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve found one wife at a time is quite sufficient, thank you very much.


12 posted on 06/14/2014 8:57:41 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Liberals - destroyers of both men and civilizations. The Fourth Turning Cometh.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh, what the hell. Lets save a lot of time and trouble and just decriminalize everything any human being ever did or wants to do! UTOPIA!


13 posted on 06/14/2014 8:57:59 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Abraham was a friend of God, all while having many wives.
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Typical filthy Mormon lie...

Abraham was not a polygamist...


14 posted on 06/14/2014 9:05:45 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

15 posted on 06/14/2014 9:07:46 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just waiting for the first court case. How will the courts say no, if they’ve already allowed homosexual marriage?


16 posted on 06/14/2014 9:15:46 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This could make family even more fun than it is.


17 posted on 06/14/2014 9:23:08 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Psalm 144
宁为太平犬,莫作乱离人 "better to live as a dog in an era of peace than a man in times of trouble."
18 posted on 06/14/2014 9:32:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Psalm 144

HUGE CORRECTION!

“This could make family even more fun than it is.”

Was MEANT to read: “This could make family LAW even more fun than it is.”

(I wish we could edit sometimes.)


19 posted on 06/14/2014 9:36:11 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
損友狗不如
[a bad wife is worse than a dog.]
20 posted on 06/14/2014 9:38:44 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The patriarchs practiced polygamy and Nero fiddled while Rome burned.

Back to the future! Cheers everyone.

vaudine

21 posted on 06/14/2014 9:40:54 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: FredZarguna
不要用斧头删除从你的朋友的额头飞。
22 posted on 06/14/2014 9:46:16 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And so it begins...


23 posted on 06/14/2014 9:47:40 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who can afford more than one wife? Really??? Much less the cost of a multiple party divorce!

There are women who actually allow their men to have more than one wife??? (They’ve never met mine...)


24 posted on 06/14/2014 9:47:40 PM PDT by datura (We have a 2 party system. Conservatives vs Uniparty)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

How to totally destroy this “letter” and its arguments:

1.) The OT shows the heartache that Abraham, Jacob, David and others experienced from polygamy, and the OT shows explicitely how it was polygamy itself, not just the normal marital problems experienced by all, that caused trouble for these men.

2.) Jesus Christ said in Matthew “A man shall leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife [not wives] and the TWO shall become ONE flesh.”

Jesus Christ outlawed polygamy by his word. If people wish to willingly disobey then if they desire hellfire, then they can have at it, I guess....

Now, if a man gives his life to Christ, and say was a Muslim before accepting Christ, divorce may not be an option, as God said He hates divorce.


25 posted on 06/14/2014 9:56:52 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
在開始你的復仇之旅前,先挖兩個墳墓;如果你娶第二個女人,挖三墳。
[Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves; If you marry a second woman, dig three.]
26 posted on 06/14/2014 9:56:55 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: LukeL

one spouse is enough. why anyone thought the solution was another spouse, isb beyond me.


27 posted on 06/14/2014 10:05:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: dfwgator

Yup


28 posted on 06/14/2014 10:06:00 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Genetically speaking polygamy is like peeing in your own gene pool.

Great if you are looking for a long term inbred population, cause that's what happens. Would explain some of LBJ's great society's problems too.

29 posted on 06/14/2014 10:08:39 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fredonia, Ariz?

"Hail Freedonia, land of the brave and free" - Rufus T. Firefly

30 posted on 06/14/2014 10:11:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: LukeL; windcliff
IMHO, the sense of Genesis II:24 is singular.

The ideal marriage in Torah is probably that of Isaac and Rebecca, which was completely monogamous. Otherwise, marriage problems prevail throughout the Pentateuch, usually impacting the lives of often thousands in the negative sense.

On would think there's a lesson in that, but that so much fewer actually know it, and even fewer take it to heart.

31 posted on 06/14/2014 10:45:55 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

Oops...left a part out:

If a man is a Muslim, for instance, and married say 2,3 or a max of 4 wives under Islam and later accepted Christ as savior, then he may be stuck in that mess, as God said in MalachiMalachi that He hates divorce.


32 posted on 06/14/2014 11:18:27 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Nothing wrong with it...nah...nothing...


33 posted on 06/14/2014 11:18:43 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I am coming to peace with the rapid and impending destruction of America.

We should be destroyed. We aren't a nation worth saving.

34 posted on 06/14/2014 11:24:32 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz

Watch your tongue.

You are hitting it one minute and wearing a ball in your mouth the next.


35 posted on 06/14/2014 11:26:57 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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To: eyedigress
It's all an act. The people want me in-character. They get pissed when I don't. It's like Foster Brooks, who used to play act like he was drunk. He never was. He tried to do a new character, and everyone hated it.

I'm actually very choosy about women in real life.

36 posted on 06/14/2014 11:32:22 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

37 posted on 06/14/2014 11:32:52 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be")
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To: Lazamataz

Don’t get real on me now!

On a lighter note. America is not behind this regime and
the last thing I need to hear is your fun being ruined.

God is in charge and this administration has mocked him.

Just pray to not give up and we will get it back. We could use your help. You have the gift of sarcasm to no end.

BTW, would you hit Moochelle?


38 posted on 06/14/2014 11:44:30 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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To: Dallas59; All

That Jeffs really kept it in the family. I don’t mind if Some men have a few wives. I want 3 husbands, one to earn a good living, one to fix the roof, and one to entertain me. ;-)


39 posted on 06/14/2014 11:59:24 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Olog-hai

It’s ignorant baloney. I feel sad for those folks more than angry, though.


40 posted on 06/15/2014 12:06:54 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can’t see poligamy any worse than gay-marriage unless taxpayer’s paid child support is part of it.


41 posted on 06/15/2014 12:52:13 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I do not care about the history of polygamy. It is a primitive practice not to be sanctioned by a civilized society. I put it on the same level as slavery. All through history up to this day man has practiced slavery. Should it be sanctioned? No.

Polygamy is the enslavement of women. The women who participate in it might get a thrill with it. They are still slaves to the male of the roost. The same with those slave women picking cotton. They might have had a laugh and a thrill working their fingers to the bone for their slave masters. Some even were sex slaves for the master—for a laugh and a thrill. That does not justify it.


42 posted on 06/15/2014 12:56:41 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: jonrick46

~Polygamy is the enslavement of women. The women who participate in it might get a thrill with it. They are still slaves to the male of the roost. The same with those slave women picking cotton. They might have had a laugh and a thrill working their fingers to the bone for their slave masters. Some even were sex slaves for the master—for a laugh and a thrill. That does not justify it.~

You surely sound communist these way, especially dragging slavery into topic.
Who are we to decide for consenting adults?
Commies could use exactly your arguments to rant against natural marriage.
A lot of them arguing that it is nothing but a slavery for woman.

It is not that I’m all for a poligamy, but it is surely the least perversion comparing to sodomy, bestiality and especially pedophilia.


43 posted on 06/15/2014 1:32:49 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix

Don’t compare me to Commies for the comparison I used. Polygamy is another way to enslave women. I will not stand idly by and let Muslim sympathizers ram polygamy down our cultural throats.


44 posted on 06/15/2014 2:02:32 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Olog-hai
There’s benign vileness? (Remember, being “vile” means to be utterly morally depraved.)

Other than for church leaders, where does the Bible speak out against polygamy?

45 posted on 06/15/2014 2:21:01 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

Ephesians 5:31. Unambiguous. All other verses of that chapter in context show a marriage of one man and one woman, not limited to church leaders.

That’s aside from the example in Genesis 2:24, where God gave Adam one wife, not multiple wives. Noah also had one wife, as did his three sons have one wife each.

Also the injunction is made specially for kings, not to marry many wives, in Deuteronomy 17:17. (The later examples of David and Solomon, especially Solomon, show what happen when that’s ignored.)


46 posted on 06/15/2014 2:40:34 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Ephesians 5:31. Unambiguous. All other verses of that chapter in context show a marriage of one man and one woman, not limited to church leaders. That’s aside from the example in Genesis 2:24, where God gave Adam one wife, not multiple wives. Noah also had one wife, as did his three sons have one wife each. Also the injunction is made specially for kings, not to marry many wives, in Deuteronomy 17:17. (The later examples of David and Solomon, especially Solomon, show what happen when that’s ignored.)

I understand that many claim for "sin" because something offend their sensibilities, but I think you take it too far. Ephesians is talking about a relationship, but doesn't condemn polygamy. Adam being given but one wife is lame. Deuteronomy also says kings shouldn't amass too many horses or too much silver - the intent of the passage you cite is obviously telling kings to stay real and grounded lest they become so disconnected that they cannot be effective/just rulers.

I don't understand why folks want to marry more than one other mate. I don't count the mere act as sinful - the reason it is done may make it sinful, but not across-the-board.

I'm far more concerned with the homosexual agenda's destruction of family values. I won't fight it, but I also won't defend it. It is what it is and it will only get worse and will not go away. If you believe in the Bible, and that God has already ordained that the world will become a moral cesspool before Jesus comes back to set things right, then you should also know that we can refrain from indulging, but we cannot stop what is happening. He will have His way and we can only tend to ourselves and those we have relationships with.

47 posted on 06/15/2014 2:59:43 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

In prescribing monogamy, there is the condemnation of polygamy. Unless Mohammed’s habits in this vein are not worthy of condemnation?

The gays may attack family values of their own volition and their own agenda, but the no-fault-divorce crowd and polygamists attacked them first.

It’s not implied that we can stop what is happening—even the Bible says we don’t have the power to stop it (2 Timothy 3:13), but there is one who will.


48 posted on 06/15/2014 3:05:44 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Liberals quoting the Bible? LOL

I guess they skipped over the verses about homosexuality.


49 posted on 06/15/2014 3:15:01 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Lazamataz

I agree. We richly deserve God’s judgment.

I believe Obama is that judgment.


50 posted on 06/15/2014 3:18:19 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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