Posted on 06/12/2014 2:30:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
No, and AFAIK Shalit never converted to Islam either.
How about his father, mother and commander-in-chief? [chuckle]
No, the question we should be asking is a version of the one Pope Francis made famous in a different context: Who Are We To Judge?
Did he really experience "brutal" captivity?"
Was he worth 14 lives lost attempting to rescue him?
Where was the press during those five years?
Should we depend upon the MSM and White House for information, or his colleagues and those with direct knowledge?
It is difficult to judge anything with the lack of information, and the smoke and fog of spin. And, it is difficult to judge with no real source of information on what happened, similar to Benghazi and other scandals.
So, we wait.
We are NOT Bowe and his family....never have or never will be!! IDIOTS!!
Was he worth it is not the issue, it is a distraction.
First, negotiating with terrorists is a horrible idea and never should be done.
Second, The five terrorist we released should never have been released under any circumstances .They should have been executed or spent their lives in jail.
Third, there a many detainees in Gitmo that could have been exchanged for that do not present the risk the five do.
Bergdahl is a traitor. So is the man who swapped him for 5 Islamicist fellow travelers.
No, we are not.
What a pile of pap. The real question is not should we have taken him back, it’s whether we should have payed the price we did. The answer to that is no.
This is a terrible comparison. Israel's lopsided prisoner exchanges are probably tied to two things that aren't a factor in the U.S.:
1. Israel has compulsory military service for its citizens. Even worse, they have exemptions for large segments of the population -- including a disproportionate number of those who have lived in settlements that have been the subject of so much contention over there. If the Israeli government didn't move mountains to recover every prisoner held by the Palestinians, the country would probably collapse.
2. Israel is a collectivist, Marxist country in many respects. It is so different from the U.S. that it really shouldn't be compared to us here. A more appropriate comparison would be to European countries with leftist parliamentary governments. Those countries would probably act the same way as Israel when it comes to "prisoner exchanges" like this.
Good question. I'm prior military, lost several close friends in the war on terror, with my son active duty, and my father a former POW. I'd say that gives me the right to an informed opinion on a deserter. Many (most?) of us on FR are prior military or have close relatives in the service. We judge because we have been there - without desertion, without treason, and without unnecessarily endangering our units.
We do not raise our kids with the idea that all moral choices are equally valid, from heroism and fidelity to treason and homosexuality. We raise our kids with values, for most of us biblical values, and Bergdahl's conduct does not measure up to what we ourselves did when we were bored with duty, or when we were unsure about a leadership decision. Bergdahl's conduct does not measure up to what we would want our children and grandchildren to recognize as acceptable.
We are humans, endowed by God with a sense of right and wrong, and tasked by God with teaching our children the difference between good and evil. That gives us the right and the duty to judge reprehensible conduct.
American soldier captured
American soldier deserted (fixed)
Great post, Sir.
The main problem I see with this editorial is that it engages the matter on the ground that The Regime has chosen. I listened to SecDef Hagel testifying before the Armed Services Committee yesterday. As each Democrat began questioning, the opening remark related to never leaving a soldier behind. It was so noticeable, that I began to comment “DRINK!!” on the Live Thread when I heard it.
I believe we simply let that alone. There is nothing to be gained, at this point, by arguing the merits of whether or not Bergdahl was worthy. That time WILL come. If we have that discussion now, we are taking the bait that The Regime has thrown out in order to diffuse the prime issue that we KNOW to be of urgent concern.
How did the five Taliban go from being on the “never release” list to a year’s all expense sojourn in Qatar? THAT is the question that must be answered first.
Along with the way that Obama broke a law he had signed in order to make the swap.
NONE is above the law, or all are.
“...should have informed those members of Congress who see it as their right to know such things...”
See it as their right? It’s a law.
And Israel was foolish to trade 1,000 terrorists for a single soldier. That puts all the power in the hands of a kidnapper - I kidnap one of your guys, you give me 1,000 people back. Who in their right mind would agree to that deal?
I don’t think this sleeper jihadist is me. I’ve never deserted, nor have I ever been a moslem idiot.
Gilad was actively abducted.
Bowe walked off.
Hmm... Writer misses that fact.
Writer needs to go offer themselves as a hostage, see what happens.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
No, and AFAIK Shalit never converted to Islam either.
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To: Olog-hai
How about his father, mother and commander-in-chief? [chuckle
Are suggesting that the CIC has ever been anything else?
Hello.
Is that to me or someone else?
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