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War Gear Flows to Police Departments
The New York Times ^ | June 8, 2014 | MATT APUZZO

Posted on 06/09/2014 10:53:58 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

Inside the municipal garage of this small lakefront city, parked next to the hefty orange snowplow, sits an even larger truck, this one painted in desert khaki. Weighing 30 tons and built to withstand land mines, the armored combat vehicle is one of hundreds showing up across the country, in police departments big and small.

The 9-foot-tall armored truck was intended for an overseas battlefield. But as President Obama ushers in the end of what he called America’s “long season of war,” the former tools of combat — M-16 rifles, grenade launchers, silencers and more — are ending up in local police departments, often with little public notice.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; cops; donutwatch; jbt; leos; militarization; militarized
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The militarization of U.S. police departments is thoroughly out of control.
1 posted on 06/09/2014 10:53:58 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

Small towns in Indiana getting MRAPS..for drug interdiction..riiiggghhhttt


2 posted on 06/09/2014 10:57:05 AM PDT by Paul46360 (..)
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To: Timber Rattler

All preparatory for nationalization by the central govenment. Welcome to your “civilian” security force.


3 posted on 06/09/2014 10:57:40 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: Timber Rattler

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/04/18/congratulations-your-tiny-town-has-an-mrap-and-is-ready-for-war/


4 posted on 06/09/2014 10:58:09 AM PDT by Paul46360 (..)
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To: Timber Rattler

That is because the next phase of the MarxoFascist ‘revolution’ is about to kick into gear.

And the targets are those of us whom this cabal has determined cannot be ‘re-educated’.

The evidence of what is about to happen to us is everywhere. But Americans, like the jews in 1938 Europe have a fatal case of Normalcy Bias and refuse to understand what is being prepared against them.


5 posted on 06/09/2014 10:58:28 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Timber Rattler

6 posted on 06/09/2014 11:00:08 AM PDT by Paul46360 (..)
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To: Paul46360

They gotta get out of the things sometime...


7 posted on 06/09/2014 11:00:59 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: Timber Rattler

I completely agree with your comment.

What really brought it to my attention some years back, is when they opened up the military equipment to the police departments. Helicopters, armored personnel carriers..., you name it.


8 posted on 06/09/2014 11:01:23 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Timber Rattler

Ubama is just staging all this equipment with police departments so it will be there when his civilian gestapo get the “go” signal.


9 posted on 06/09/2014 11:01:46 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Timber Rattler

Eventually to be used to strengthen our borders. Not.


10 posted on 06/09/2014 11:02:48 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Paul46360

I think civilians should be able to buy those too. :p


11 posted on 06/09/2014 11:04:12 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Timber Rattler
Michigan City Indiana mayor explaining why they got an MRAP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T0xPdfHW2M

12 posted on 06/09/2014 11:05:07 AM PDT by Paul46360 (..)
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To: Timber Rattler

Mostly to combat the WOD. End it and eliminate the reason to militarize and destroy your rights.


13 posted on 06/09/2014 11:05:59 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Timber Rattler

This administration is getting ready for the coming Social War. The local police will be beholding to “The Divine One” and his fellow crooks and will function to suppress local revolutionary outbreaks.


14 posted on 06/09/2014 11:08:33 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: bamahead

hey ‘head


15 posted on 06/09/2014 11:09:31 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Timber Rattler

I think this confirms my suspicion that the illegal children are being let in to become the Animal Farm dogs to “cleanse” America of patriots or anyone else who disagrees with Socialist dictatorship


16 posted on 06/09/2014 11:09:53 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: Timber Rattler

Here is the killer question to ask police, city councils, etc.

‘How and why did your police/sheriff’s department allow their jurisdiction to become such a war zone that they need implements of war to patrol it?’


17 posted on 06/09/2014 11:12:05 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Most cops are like little boys with their new toys. They are just as blind to that which they are being asked to do as Americans are to the War Complex being built for use against them.

Type "police department gets MRAP" into Google, then 'images', and.. IT'S FRIGHTENING!!!!

How To Disable MRAP Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected Light Armored Vehicles I think TIPPING THE MRAP OVER is the best bet. LOL

18 posted on 06/09/2014 11:22:46 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Timber Rattler

Reminds me, I need to stock up on ammonia.....


19 posted on 06/09/2014 11:23:22 AM PDT by Envisioning (It's the Jihad, stupid......)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

20 posted on 06/09/2014 11:23:52 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Timber Rattler

And what happens when all of the local municipalities get these shiney new, big boy toys?

Well, they look for the smallest damn excuse to take them out to play!

Coming to an unwarrented home invasion near you!

(your neighbor didn’t like you throwing his dog’s poop back into his yard.....)


21 posted on 06/09/2014 11:34:19 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Paul46360

I see no reason for police departments to have armored combat vehicles. The excuses the mayor gave were lame because the cities can get non-armored military surplus vehicles just as easily as the MRAPs.


22 posted on 06/09/2014 11:44:45 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: INVAR

I believe you’re right, but I’ve been saying this for years.


23 posted on 06/09/2014 11:48:10 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: relictele

The will give weak excuses that the vehicles could be used on snow plow duty and for fighting wildfires offroad. The truth is that the police and fire departments can get unarmored trucks just as easily.


24 posted on 06/09/2014 11:49:27 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

I take it then that the MRAP uses air pressure to release the brakes like commercial vehicles.


25 posted on 06/09/2014 11:50:38 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Paul46360

A silver lining: The people in those small towns know exactly where those who would occupy said vehicles live. Get in one to unconstitutionally suppress the populace and you probably won’t live 48 hours after getting out again. (And while you’re out oppressing, who is watching your family?) This is why I still have hope that most local LE will walk off the job with their equipment if the wrong orders are ever given. At some point it just makes more sense to let a tyrant swing without you.


26 posted on 06/09/2014 11:51:18 AM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: Bulwyf

grenade launchers and machine guns for the local police?
What could go wrong with that?

Problem with crowd control?
Protesters?
Disrespectful citizens?
Barking dogs?

Problem no more. /s


27 posted on 06/09/2014 11:53:06 AM PDT by OldArmy52 (The question is not whether Obama ever lies, but whether he ever tells the truth.)
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To: null and void
ping
28 posted on 06/09/2014 11:53:26 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: OldArmy52

Nobody will short you on the ketchup in the drive-thru lane AGAIN !


29 posted on 06/09/2014 11:57:41 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Timber Rattler

The government is literally freeing mass murdering terrorist while turning their attention towards Americans at home.


30 posted on 06/09/2014 12:15:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Timber Rattler

Speaking of MRAPs, there’s a false flag going down outside of L.A., CALIF as we speak. Will an MRAP barge in and save the day??? Drum roll please..


31 posted on 06/09/2014 12:21:54 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Timber Rattler

My Uncle, God Bless his soul, once said:

“You asked me where the DHS was storing all of the equipment they were acquiring for use against the citizens of the United States if a Civil War was to occur? Just look at the local Police department and the other local Federal agencies. They’re emplacing them one or two at a time in plain sight.”

The key he then added was this: “Now what I want to know is where all of that ammunition is being stored at.”

He was a good man... and I miss him.


32 posted on 06/09/2014 12:31:45 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Timber Rattler

martial law is not far off.


33 posted on 06/09/2014 12:33:55 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: GeronL

Once upon a time, civilians could open up their bank accounts and get the latest howitzer and grape-shot that money could buy. And for awhile, civilians were armed “better” than our military (Think the old west with the Winchester repeaters and Henry’s out there).


34 posted on 06/09/2014 12:38:12 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: muir_redwoods

Yup, you got it.


35 posted on 06/09/2014 12:59:17 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Please post more details about what’s going on outside of Los Angeles.


36 posted on 06/09/2014 1:24:28 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: Paul46360

Don’t you just love this little gem from the NY Slimes article.....

“In the Indianapolis suburbs, officers said they needed a mine-resistant vehicle to protest against a possible attack by veterans returning from war.”

“You have a lot of people who are coming out of the military that have the ability and knowledge to build I.E.D.’s and to defeat law enforcement techniques, Sgt. Dan Downing of the Morgan Co. Sheriff’s Dept. told the local Fox affiliate. Sergeant Downing did not return a message seeking comment.”

Of course he didn’t return the reporter’s message, the coward. What an insulting thing to say about our returning vets.


37 posted on 06/09/2014 1:30:17 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: Timber Rattler

Yes, it is.


38 posted on 06/09/2014 2:01:04 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Timber Rattler

“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”

— Candidate B. Hussein Obama, 2008


39 posted on 06/09/2014 2:02:52 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

That is as it should be.

I would not mind our military becoming much much smaller in peacetime except for the forces responsible for the technical stuff like jets, satellites, missiles and stuff.

I think the era of massive standing armies is crazy


40 posted on 06/09/2014 2:18:34 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Alternate thought.
baraq the first is arming up federal agencies.
State and local PD’s are being armed up with military hardware. What if the state and local PD’s take our side?
I know there will be some PD’s that would love to play army on unarmed civilians and their pooches, but there may also be some PD’s that are vehemently against baraq and his fellow travelers. Guess we will see who is on what side when the poop hits the prop.


41 posted on 06/09/2014 2:30:37 PM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is now the CPUSA)
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To: Timber Rattler

explaine in this doc - freedom from war, state dept pub 7277.

phase 2 to phase 3 preparations.


42 posted on 06/09/2014 5:45:19 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Posse Comitatus work around - who needs the military when you have a ‘civilian security force’ just as powerful.


43 posted on 06/09/2014 6:03:01 PM PDT by HammerT (The Right to keep and bear arms: A Commonsense Civil Right)
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To: Timber Rattler

Revolt is coming.


44 posted on 06/10/2014 5:14:32 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; ...



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!

45 posted on 06/10/2014 6:04:41 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: G Larry

In a sane world, most of these would be surplused after a year or two because the fleet departments don’t have the tools or labor to maintain them or the budget for sustained operations.

I’ve been involved in providing fleet services to LE for years and you would be surprised at what they can do to equipment. It’s part of their entitlement mentality. They will purposely abuse any and all vehicles, computers, office copiers if and when they so choose so that they can get the newest toys loaded with all of the gadgets.

We always ran pool to see how long it would take to crash the new cars. Shortest time was 9 days and the officer took out a power pole. The chief called me out to the scene and was explaining what happened and that the driver laid down 200 ft of skid marks. I looked around and didn’t see any and then reminded him that the vehicle was equipped with ABS and that the speed limit on the city street was only 25 and asked if he was responding to a shooting? The chief just looked at me and couldn’t believe that I was trying to use logic to figure out one of his boys could total a new car in only 9 days...


46 posted on 06/10/2014 6:24:13 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

I live in that suburb, it was the Morgan County sheriff that got it and I’ve known Bob Downey, the sheriff here, for a long time. Him I trust, but who knows about the next guy who gets in there though like his idiot Deputy quoted here. He is the kind of sheriff most freepers would respect, huge supporter of the second amendment and not a gung-ho type pushing a liberal agenda at all.

He knew there was going to be a sh*tstorm when he took it, but also I can somewhat see his point of view for doing it also. The vehicle was completely free, it just cost the fuel to drive it back here and park it.

It will only be used under extreme circumstances, it’s not like they will be getting the morning coffee in it or doing raids all the time, at least I know he won’t. He has a Boyscout mentality and would rather have it parked there and never be used than need it just once and not have access to it in a pinch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOIMmmyv1uc


47 posted on 06/10/2014 6:48:17 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Do you think that is a wise thing to post?

I have friends still in the sandbox


48 posted on 06/10/2014 7:40:49 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

Fortunately, Taliban don’t FReep...


49 posted on 06/10/2014 8:12:08 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: INVAR

Nail meet hammer.


50 posted on 06/10/2014 3:43:32 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Be a part of the American freedom migration: freestateproject.org)
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