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Is Snowden Obliged to Accept Punishment?
Just Security ^ | 6/3/14 | Michael J. Glennon

Posted on 06/03/2014 10:45:26 AM PDT by Iced Tea Party

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To: Iced Tea Party

Everyone in the US security apparatus swore an oath to uphold the Constitution. Those that run the NSA and other organizations are actively breaking that oath, and as such are traitors. The real criminals are those who would destroy our nation and our freedom.

Snowden was disloyal to the government, but loyal to the Constitution and the people.

I say give the man a medal.


21 posted on 06/03/2014 11:38:07 AM PDT by Gunpowder green
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To: Iced Tea Party

All Snowden has to do is take up Islam, grow a beard, and quote the Koran in Pushtun.


22 posted on 06/03/2014 11:52:28 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Iced Tea Party
the Big Brother state the government is creating is serious

Here's the problem.

We have a civil society in which people do not think twice about leaving semipermanent digital records of themselves wherever they go.

If you use your phone to send a text using software you are renting from a third party, and send the text over an IP network you are renting from a third party, your actions are not private.

If you go into a Walmart and buy 100 items and pay for it with a credit card, a third party now has a list of everything you bought and an hour of footage of you.

The concept of a "right to privacy" is very hard to define in law and is not part of our Constitution.

Few people realize that even having a private ballot - something which most people assume is a foundational principle - was only introduced late in the 19th century.

At the time of the Founders there was very little privacy, because communities were very small and everyone knew everyone else's business.

After WWII, for a few decades, there was a "golden age of privacy" because there were massive movements of populations, big cities where someone could "disappear" were all over, and good roads made it possible for people to relocate at the drop of a hat without a trace.

Technology has now superseded that.

In 1950 a detective could ask a local exchange operator who you had been phoning and could ask the local grocer what you'd been buying.

But that took a lot of legwork.

Now it can be done continuously without lifting a finger.

23 posted on 06/03/2014 11:54:17 AM PDT by wideawake
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I want to give him a medal. He should come back a hero for clueing us all in on the big plan.

He could add it to the medals he gets from China and Russia for clueing them in as well.

24 posted on 06/03/2014 11:57:30 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: wideawake

“Scratch a Snowdenite, find an America-despising traitor”

Scratch an anti-Snowdenite, find a police state-loving traitor.


25 posted on 06/03/2014 12:17:57 PM PDT by Boogieman
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Snowden should face a jury of his peers, in an open court, and have his actions judged.

His peers would be people of great intellect, who were willing to risk their fortunes, freedom and lives to secure for the people the liberties and rights spelled out in the constitution.

People of such quality are a scarce type, an example of the type you will find below.


26 posted on 06/03/2014 12:23:45 PM PDT by Bobalu (What cannot be programmed cannot be physics)
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I’ll bet Angela Merkel would like to give him a medal for
clueing her in that Bam was listening in on her personal cell
phone.

I doubt he gave Russia and China anything they hadn’t already
hacked for themselves.

Snowden gave the American people the info we need to throw off
this police state. Yeh, I’d give him a medal.


27 posted on 06/03/2014 12:26:07 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Boogieman
You don't know what a police state actually is.

I know people who have survived actual examples of the phenomenon.

I understand that you want to pat yourself on the back for your incredible bravery in surviving another day in America, but your flair for the dramatic is tiresome.

28 posted on 06/03/2014 12:45:21 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I doubt he gave Russia and China anything they hadn’t already hacked for themselves. Yeh, I’d give him a medal.

"I doubt Aldrich Ames gave the Soviets anything they hadn't already figured out for themselves. Yeh, I'd give him a medal."

Ah, the contortions people twist themselves into while defending the egomaniacal Snowden.

29 posted on 06/03/2014 12:49:55 PM PDT by wideawake
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People of such quality are a scarce type

Good luck finding twelve of them in Washington today. Instead, we have people like John Kerry (spokesman for PurpleHeart brand Band-Aids) spewing hot air.

30 posted on 06/03/2014 12:59:41 PM PDT by Iced Tea Party
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I doubt he gave Russia and China anything they hadn’t already hacked for themselves.

Why else would they help him?

31 posted on 06/03/2014 1:23:19 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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“Why else would they help him?”

Putey does it to make the US look bad. Its a kick for him to embarrass us since there isn’t much else he can do to us.


32 posted on 06/03/2014 3:15:16 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: wideawake

No contortions here just thankful for the information.


33 posted on 06/03/2014 3:18:36 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Putey does it to make the US look bad. Its a kick for him to embarrass us since there isn’t much else he can do to us.

Uh huh. And China?

34 posted on 06/04/2014 7:08:06 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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