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British elections dismay establishment leftists: Voters turning conservative all over Europe
American Thinker ^ | 05/24/2014 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 05/24/2014 11:01:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

All over Europe, voters are turning in a conservative direction, and against the autocratic European Union and its big government enablers. New York Times reporters Steven Erlanger and Stephen Castle write a dripping-with-disdain account of local election results in the UK, which will be followed tomorrow by results for the European Parliament. To them, conservatgives are “right wingers” or “far-right” and those who object to EU takeover of sovereignty are “anti-Europe.”

Voters in Britain sent a forceful message of discontent to established political parties on Friday, as returns from local elections showed an even stronger following than expected for the anti-European Union, anti-immigration United Kingdom Independence Party.

The results had an immediate impact across the political spectrum, hurting the Labour Party as well as the partners in the governing coalition, the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats. The outcome is likely to increase the pressure on Prime Minister David Cameron to take an even harder line on reducing the powers of the European Union.

The local vote is expected to presage another strong showing for the Independence Party in elections for the European Parliament when those votes are counted late on Sunday. Some opinion polls showed the party with slightly more support than the other parties in the European voting, which took place on Thursday, the same day as the local balloting.

A larger trend is taking hold across Europe:

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; US: New York; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: conservatism; conservativeparty; conservatives; davidcameron; elections; eu; europeanparliament; europeanunion; france; germany; labour; labourparty; liberaldemocrats; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; stephencastle; stevenerlanger; tories; uk; ukip; unitedkingdom

1 posted on 05/24/2014 11:01:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This is sweet!


2 posted on 05/24/2014 11:03:53 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: SeekAndFind

What passes for conservatives in Europe are usually not free-market individual freedom believers as is often the case in the US. They are usually ultra-nationalist, big government fascists.


3 posted on 05/24/2014 11:04:11 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: SeekAndFind

feed the people Gruel 3 times a day and guess what


4 posted on 05/24/2014 11:06:43 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: SeekAndFind

the establishment is beginning to crack in the EUSSR. good job UKIP.


5 posted on 05/24/2014 11:12:20 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: SeekAndFind

Unfortunately there is a rock-solid critical mass of government-tit-sucklers in Europe, the UK... and sadly here too.

This rock-solid critical mass of “recipients” puts severe limits on any possible reforms.


6 posted on 05/24/2014 11:27:14 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess it depends on your definition of conservative. If you consider Christian nationalist, anti-EU, anti-Islam and anti-immigration (for third worlders) people conservative, then I guess they are conservative. These positions definitely appeal to many FReepers.

But on everything else they are as socialistic and big government as the pro-EU types.


7 posted on 05/24/2014 11:35:54 AM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: SeekAndFind

If you think they’re dismayed now, wait till Farage gets his program going


8 posted on 05/24/2014 11:59:05 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: samtheman
Unfortunately there is a rock-solid critical mass of government-tit-sucklers in Europe, the UK... and sadly here too.

This rock-solid critical mass of “recipients” puts severe limits on any possible reforms.


Ex-actly. This is why the left seems to be so bold now. Even though many, many of them see the problem, they don't want to lose their tit. The unfortunate consequence of reform will be pain. It cannot be avoided and those that cause it will face another backlash because people are people.

The trick, was avoiding this situation in the first place. Moot, now.
9 posted on 05/24/2014 12:05:15 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Corporate Democrat

“Christian nationalist, anti-EU, anti-Islam, anti-immigration”

It’s a start!

All the other stuff will fall in line with this


10 posted on 05/24/2014 12:10:09 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator

Europe gives us Hope! Let us pray it will lead the europeans to a new glory—a new wave of freedom and not follow a fascist path.


11 posted on 05/24/2014 12:42:58 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: SeekAndFind

BTTT


12 posted on 05/24/2014 12:47:02 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Daveinyork

UKIP don’t fit that profile.


13 posted on 05/24/2014 1:26:27 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: 98ZJ USMC
The trick, was avoiding this situation in the first place.

People spoke up in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s... but the vast majority were oblivious.

14 posted on 05/24/2014 2:08:11 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks SeekAndFind.
Voters in Britain sent a forceful message of discontent to established political parties on Friday, as returns from local elections showed an even stronger following than expected for the anti-European Union, anti-immigration United Kingdom Independence Party. The results had an immediate impact across the political spectrum, hurting the Labour Party as well as the partners in the governing coalition, the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats.

15 posted on 05/24/2014 6:36:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Well, you made some news over here at least...


16 posted on 05/24/2014 7:38:02 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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“...made news over here..”

Hee,Hee,Hee, Tea Party on.... Boston Part 2. :)


17 posted on 05/25/2014 5:38:05 AM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. UKiP or Tea Party on.)
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To: Daveinyork
What passes for conservatives in Europe are usually not free-market individual freedom believers as is often the case in the US. They are usually ultra-nationalist, big government fascists.

Whatever. As long as they expel the Muslims, Europe can survive.

18 posted on 05/25/2014 6:11:47 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: SunkenCiv
The results had an immediate impact across the political spectrum, hurting the Labour Party as well as the partners in the governing coalition, the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats.

I'm really waiting to see the results of the EU elections tonight.

19 posted on 05/25/2014 6:14:37 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Daveinyork
Actually, there is a large spectrum on the right. On the national issue, there are : Liberals/Libertarians
Civic Nationalists/Liberal nationalists, who hold that anyone can be a loyal citizen if they are a loyal citizen.
Cultural Nationalists , who demand a common culture.
Ethno-nationalists, who look to a shared ethnic and cultural heritage.
Pan-nationalists who look beyond simply ethno-nationalism towards real or imagined shared histories. Two of the best known examples would be the Slavophiles in Russia and Nazis in Germany. I don't consider these to be nationalits at all, since they have no loyalty to the nation and don't consider it their patria.

On economics, there are free marketers, protectionists, paternalists, and even socialists.

The term "right" is therefor almost meaningless.

UKIP is a Civic Nationalist party, that is sometimes perceived as a cultural nationalist party. For a real cultural nationalist party in the UK, I would suggest you see Liberty GB. Both are free market. The British Nationalist Party is an ethno-nationalist party, which is protectionists and socialist.

20 posted on 05/25/2014 9:37:28 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: PapaBear3625

It’s all shaping up to be a backlash vote; the response of the pro-autocracy politicians will be to try to crush dissent. I don’t think they’ll succeed. I also don’t think the Euroskeptic ascendancy will continue for long.


21 posted on 05/25/2014 12:44:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: rmlew

Either they are for bigger government, or smaller government and individual liberty. Most European “conservatives” are for bigger government. They are medievalists, no matter what they call themselves. Even so-called socialists are actually medievalists, believing in some sort of feudalism.


22 posted on 05/27/2014 5:07:06 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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