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Cliven Bundy II? Utah protesters prepare for new face-off with feds
LA Times ^ | May 10, 2014 | By JOHN M. GLIONNA

Posted on 05/10/2014 10:21:14 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

This eye-blink of a town in the state’s scenic southeastern corner bills itself as the “Gateway to Adventure.” But this weekend it promises to be more like a launchpad for civil unrest.

A band of angry citizens plans to ride all-terrain vehicles onto closed-off, federally managed public land Saturday in protest against the federal Bureau of Land Management, which many say has unfairly closed off a prized area, cheating residents of outdoor recreation.

The ride, organized by San Juan County Commissioner Phil Lyman, is a gambit to assert county sovereignty over Recapture Canyon, known for its archaeological ruins, that BLM officials say has been jeopardized from overuse. The canyon was closed to motor vehicles in 2007, the agency said, after two men forged an illegal seven-mile trail. Hikers and those on horseback are still allowed there.

Lyman and his supporters want the BLM to act more quickly on a years-old request for a public right-of-way through the area. “You can’t just arbitrarily shut down a road in San Juan County,” he said. “If you can do that and get away with it, what else can you do?”

The revolt has received national attention, coming at the heels of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s successful standoff last month against the BLM that suggests a rising battle across the West over states’ rights on federally managed public lands...

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; protest; publiclands; recapturecanyon; statesrights; utah
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1 posted on 05/10/2014 10:21:14 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Utah Binger; Pete-R-Bilt; Godzilla; glock rocks

ping


2 posted on 05/10/2014 10:22:55 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I sense we will be seeing some level of video feed from Utah rather short order.


3 posted on 05/10/2014 10:27:17 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Jim Robinson

There’s enough trouble brewing without stirring up more of it.


4 posted on 05/10/2014 10:31:04 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" - Obama, setting RoE with his opposition)
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To: ctdonath2

This is not murder, drug pushing, or even illegal influence peddling like our elected representatives do.

This is guys using a road on public land to protest the fact that it has been shut down.

Civil disobediance in the finest tradtion of our forefathers. I say: good for them and Godspeed. And may the Federal government be damned.


5 posted on 05/10/2014 10:41:23 AM PDT by RepRivFarm ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell)
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To: Jim Robinson
The canyon was closed to motor vehicles in 2007, the agency said, after two men forged an illegal seven-mile trail. Hikers and those on horseback are still allowed there.

So in other words the land is not closed off. It's just closed to people who want to rip up the place with their ATVs. It's full of archeological sites and is sacred to the Navaho.

So here's a compromise. The BLM allows the ATV riders to have open season on the canyon and ride all over the places where the Navaho hold their ceremonies and gather their herbs and have their archeological sites. And the BLM also allow the Navaho to have a no limit open season on the ATV riders. See who's standing at the end.

6 posted on 05/10/2014 10:43:10 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
It's just closed to people who want to rip up the place with their ATVs.

Yes their goal is to "rip up the place". Your bias reveals itself.

It's full of archeological sites and is sacred to the Navaho.

The final arrow in the quiver of NIMBYism.

The point of all this, which you missed, is challenging the BLM's ongoing land grabs.

7 posted on 05/10/2014 10:55:52 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: DoodleDawg
And the BLM also allow the Navaho to have a no limit open season on the ATV riders.

You obviously haven't assessed the type of ATV riders we are talking about here.

Next you'll be crying about all the ATV riders rushing over to play Cowboys and Indians.

8 posted on 05/10/2014 11:00:40 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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http://www.nationalreview.com/feed/377258/next-bundy-blm-backs-down-over-recapture-canyon-utah-protest-greg-pollowitz#!

The Next Bundy? BLM Backs Down Over Recapture Canyon, Utah Protest

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The BLM — after a huddle with the FBI, the Utah attorney general’s office, the
Utah Department of Public Safety and San Juan County Sheriff Rick Eldredge —
has decided once again to “stand back” and avoid a confrontation as it
did several weeks ago on the Bundy ranch in Nevada, Eldredge said.

“It was decided that, at the end of the day, it is not worth it to spill any
blood,” Eldredge said of the decision. . .
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9 posted on 05/10/2014 11:09:15 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport

Good


10 posted on 05/10/2014 11:29:30 AM PDT by MileHi
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To: Jim Robinson

Bottom line: the Feds have way too much land.


11 posted on 05/10/2014 11:31:37 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: SunTzuWu; DoodleDawg
All you have to do is search You Tube with the phrase "tearing up the desert" to find the videos the ATV riders post of themselves tearing up the desert.

And anything else they can tear up.

12 posted on 05/10/2014 11:43:46 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Jim Robinson

Never did Veterans fight for the feds to keep control of lands that should belong to those the Vets fought for. It was no problem to give lands to former slaves from Southern farms, Lincoln said the lands out West should not belong to any government, managed by the South in particular.

What is it that this government has no respect of declarations and history?

Obviously there is a cabal of fiction people who think they are the heirs to the Founding Fathers’ National Treasure and the world.


13 posted on 05/10/2014 11:53:14 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: samtheman

The real bottom line is the lawyers that are behind the environmental groups. They are worse than ambulance chasers.

Typically, the federal government defends itself vigorously against lawsuits challenging its actions. But not always: Sometimes regulators are only too happy to face collusive lawsuits by friendly “foes” that are aimed at compelling government action that would otherwise be difficult or impossible to achieve. Rather than defend these cases, regulators settle them in a phenomenon known as “sue and settle.” This tactic has exploded under the Obama Administration, costing the economy tens of billions of dollars while eroding political accountability and public participation in government. There are solutions: The executive branch should return to the principles adopted during the Reagan Administration by Attorney General Edwin Meese III, and Congress should require transparency and accountability in settlements that commit agencies to action.

This article explains Some of the who and why behind govt land grabs and use exemptions.

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2014/02/regulation-through-sham-litigation-the-sue-and-settle-phenomenon

If you want to learn about some of the outrageous acts the environmentalists read the following link about how the gov handles FOIA requests to land users vs how they bend over backwards for environmental groups. (3 page PDF easy reading.)

http://buddfalen.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/6.25.13-Freedom-of-Information-Act-Abuse.pdf


14 posted on 05/10/2014 11:55:59 AM PDT by fudimo
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To: deport

“It was decided that, at the end of the day, it is not worth it to spill any
blood,” Eldredge said of the decision. . .
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——————————————————————————————— Good Even a small battle won means a lot in the war to gain back control from the environazi’s who have the govt’s favor.


15 posted on 05/10/2014 12:03:01 PM PDT by fudimo
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To: Jim Robinson

But, But,, the treaty of...

What a crock.

The federal government has no authority to HOLD ANY land other than what is listed, art 1, sec 8, 17th enumerated power.


16 posted on 05/10/2014 12:26:59 PM PDT by crz
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To: ctdonath2

Meaning?


17 posted on 05/10/2014 12:30:43 PM PDT by sport
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To: Ben Ficklin
All you have to do is search You Tube with the phrase "tearing up the desert" to find the videos the ATV riders post of themselves tearing up the desert.

It's sand, for cryin' out loud. What else gets your panties in a bunch? When the snow isn't aligned just right because of animal migration?

18 posted on 05/10/2014 1:27:28 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Jim Robinson
Shouldn't "federally managed" read federally MISmanaged?
19 posted on 05/10/2014 1:52:04 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: ctdonath2

Wrong. Its time to stir the pot. Past time.


20 posted on 05/10/2014 2:04:03 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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