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Benghazi hearing puts Democrats in a tough spot
Yahoo News ^ | 9 May 2014 | Chris Moody

Posted on 05/09/2014 5:58:03 PM PDT by mandaladon

House Democratic leaders have been unstinting in their criticism of the select committee established this week to investigate the aftermath of the 2012 attack on an American compound in Benghazi, Libya. Now they are facing a touch choice about whether to join it, cautiously weighing which strategy would be riskier politically and whether their instinct to boycott the select committee might just give it more power in the end.

Democratic leaders have called the new committee “a political ploy,” a “stunt,” a “sham,” a “waste of taxpayer dollars” and, in the words of White House spokesman Jay Carney, “a blatantly political and partisan effort.” This week, two arms of the party, the Democratic National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, launched a coordinated messaging blitz to undermine the committee and cast Republicans as political opportunists who have established the select committee only because of their interest in raising money and exciting the GOP base before the 2014 midterm elections.

Should Democrats now take part in this thing they view as a nonserious exercise in pandering to the right? House Democrats met behind closed doors Friday morning to discuss their options, but emerged with no clear answer on how to proceed.

In the case of reopening an investigation into the events of Sept. 11, 2012, in Libya, Democrats are stuck in a damned-if-they-do, damned-if-they-don’t scenario. That’s left the caucus torn on what to do.

There’s a vocal chorus of Democrats urging Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi to boycott the committee altogether. Appointing members to the committee would lend credibility to the investigation, they fear, and it would force Democrats to risk being pawns in a Republican political game.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; benghazi; benghazihearings; hillary; obama; soshillary
The biggest fear the DemocRATS have is that this scandal will not only damage the party, but will sink Hillary as their presidential nominee.
1 posted on 05/09/2014 5:58:03 PM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

If this were a Republican administration and Sarah Palin had been involved instead of Hillary Clinton, the press would be singing a vastly different tune. That is why we can’t trust the mainstream press.


2 posted on 05/09/2014 6:03:27 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: mandaladon
...What does anyone think the media would not keep polishing Miss Hillary's image.... phooey.

If the lady in the blue dress sucked, the media is a full-on vacuum-truck keeping dirt of the old commodities trader (Hillary). In fact, a vacuum-truck worthy of the Halliburton brand label.

3 posted on 05/09/2014 6:04:08 PM PDT by ptsal (Repubicans swallowing more kool-aide from Rove & Kristol)
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To: mandaladon
The biggest fear the DemocRATS have is that this scandal will not only damage the party, but will sink Hillary as their presidential nominee.

Yeah smash the D party to smithereens.

4 posted on 05/09/2014 6:06:51 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: mandaladon

There’s no way in Hell the Democrats will boycott the Committee and miss the chance to get their comments and their outrage played on a loop on the evening and morning news.

Most news viewers won’t hear a peep about any of the legitimate questions and answers


5 posted on 05/09/2014 6:09:58 PM PDT by digger48
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To: mandaladon

Obama surrendered to Al Qaeda at Benghazi. Part of the deal was to provide armored vehicles, weapons and night vision equipment to Al Qaeda. That is aiding and abetting the enemies of The United States. It is the very definition of treason.

Does anyone think Al Qaeda turned over the bodies of the dead Americans and let those 31 CIA employees go because they are just nice guys? Nope. They traded with Obama. And Obama, by trading with them, committed treason. That’s why the Democrats are behaving this way. A Democrat President convicted of treason? Ouch!

And we haven’t even begun to look at why Hillary and Obama inserted the US into overthrowing the government of Libya.


6 posted on 05/09/2014 6:10:48 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: mandaladon
DemocRATS have is that this scandal

Treason involving murder is hardly a "scandal".

7 posted on 05/09/2014 6:11:48 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: blueunicorn6

you forgot to add Chuck U Schumer into the recipe


8 posted on 05/09/2014 6:12:59 PM PDT by advertising guy ( <------------- lotta white in here ------------>)
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To: mandaladon

What if the committee discovers that Hillary had set Ambassador Stevens up to be kidnapped, and the plot went awry? Why haven’t the perps been apprehended? WERE THEY PART OF THE PLOT, and is this perhaps why they haven’t been apprehended?


9 posted on 05/09/2014 6:17:43 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: mandaladon

“A waste of taxpayer dollars”, unlike the $555 million Obungo wasted on Solyndra.


10 posted on 05/09/2014 6:36:13 PM PDT by anoldafvet (If you think the government is capable of taking care of you, just look at the indian tribes)
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To: advertising guy

You’re right. Chuckie was there at The White House when all this Benghazi stuff was going on.


11 posted on 05/09/2014 6:48:43 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: mandaladon
fraught...with probems....


12 posted on 05/09/2014 6:54:39 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: blueunicorn6

I don’t doubt one thing you just posted. But, what’s even scarier is how many people are involved. He didn’t do it by himself.


13 posted on 05/09/2014 6:54:39 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: VerySadAmerican

Eventually, the Democrats are going to come out with the “YEAH WE BROKE THE LAW AND GOT AMERICANS MURDERED BUT WE REALLY MEANT WELL” defense. Guilty people try that defense a lot.
The key is for the Democrats to come clean about everything. The truth will literally set SOME of them free.


14 posted on 05/09/2014 7:20:17 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: mandaladon

This is a superb opportunity for Republicans. They should go to lengths to encourage the Democrats to stay out of it.

Harry Reid insisted on unilateral control of the senate.

Obama insisted on unilateral control by executive order.

So now the Republicans can give the Democrats a taste of what unilateral control means.

They should hold incredibly hostile hearings, with no opportunity for Democrat rebuttal. They should also go to lengths to damn Democrats up one side and down the other, and to provide as much media support to the conservative media as they can.

The hearings should last all the way to election day, and bring forth testimony from every irate former government employee they can find. There should be lots of veterans testifying, along with anyone and everyone who can tear a hole in the Democrats, Obama and Hillary in particular.


15 posted on 05/09/2014 7:26:30 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: mandaladon

Four dead & 300 kidnapped by muslims don’t compare to New Jersey bridges


16 posted on 05/09/2014 7:41:53 PM PDT by Insigne123 (It is the soldier, not the community organizer, who gives us freedom of the press)
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To: mandaladon
The Dems also acted quite immaturely during the Clinton impeachment hearings, if memory serves. They huddled up and broke out of it like a football team then walked out.

They're all little more than spoiled adolescent brats.

17 posted on 05/09/2014 8:01:05 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: mandaladon

Al queda on the run...yep I remember Dems chanting that


18 posted on 05/09/2014 8:17:57 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: MichaelCorleone; All

” - - - They’re all little more than spoiled adolescent brats. - - - “

Yup.

BTW, the mantra of the Cult of Obamanation is as follows:

LIE, DENY AND REFUSE TO COMPLY.

IMHO, that is exactly what errant 2 year olds do.

BTW, BTW, why do these Libs call themselves “progressives” when their work ethic and public behavior is definitely Regressive?


19 posted on 05/09/2014 8:18:35 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: blueunicorn6
Don't you think that there is a large enough population of LIV in this nation that will agree with Hitlery when she spews "What difference does it make at this point??"

These are the very segment of the population that despise and hate Repubs and will quickly buy into Obie's propaganda that the GOP is just out to get him because he is not white.

You watch how this unravels. The RATS have the upper hand with 1)LYING AND COVERING UP, and 2)the MEDIA THAT MOST OF AMERICA GETS THEIR NEWS FROM will put on a performance only Joseph Goebbels and Leni Riefenstahl could be jealous of.

Don't get me wrong I like Gowdy and think he is a great prosecuter, but I just don't think the GOP en masse is up to the task of taking on the lying cheating RAT party - they do not know how to play dirty like the RATs do.
20 posted on 05/09/2014 8:41:42 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: ptsal
What does anyone think the media would not keep polishing Miss Hillary's image.... phooey.

There was an episode on Mythbusters where they actually did polish a turd.

21 posted on 05/09/2014 9:44:33 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: sr4402

>> That is why we can’t trust the mainstream press.

The greatest threat to the Country.


22 posted on 05/09/2014 10:29:15 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: mandaladon
The biggest DANGER the DemocRATS have isThat is the Person who will LEAD ... Satan's Party.
23 posted on 05/09/2014 10:35:19 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: mandaladon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh-SYu7IxiQ

Dr K: "All the committee has to do is to discover new facts, as we discovered a week and half ago with the Rhodes memo, and that you cannot ignore."

He hopes they boycott the committee, as that will allow the GOP to make the case in a more orderly fashion.

24 posted on 05/09/2014 10:57:20 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: mandaladon

Poor demos just pawns in republican game of life.

Boo hoo hoo.

Democrats, if they aren’t standing on your throat,
they’re a victim...


25 posted on 05/10/2014 12:55:30 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: advertising guy; blueunicorn6
Chuck U Schumer

That b@$t@rd will be up in front of the cameras blaming the NRA and the easy availability of guns for the Benghazi attack.

26 posted on 05/10/2014 3:51:36 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Please excuse the potholes in this tagline. Social programs have to take priority in our funding.)
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To: advertising guy
Amen.....Chuckie is dirtier than most. America would do well to see Chuckie out of Washington.
27 posted on 05/10/2014 4:05:58 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: All
DEMOCRATS RALLY TO SAVE HILLARY'S *** AT ALL COSTS: There’s a vocal chorus of Democrats urging Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi to boycott Trey Gowdy's Benghazi committee. They fear appointing Democrat members would lend it credibility, and force Democrats to risk being pawns in a Republican political game.

Here we have proof-positive that Dummycrats should never ever be given political power. They use it like tin pot dictators in Third World satraps.

Lock-stepping Dummycrats spit on those hallowed vestiges of a government they would destroy---they want total power. The power-mad Clintons' grasp for power over and over again is terrifying.

If the Dummycrats had any sense whatsoever they would know that since the 11th century, the system of "Checks and Balances" was initiated in the Great Council Halls of Venice to keep the all-powerful Doges in check.

We need checks and balances now more then ever----to keep the power-crazed Clintons and lock-stepping Dummycrats from trampling us under their feet.

28 posted on 05/10/2014 4:38:19 AM PDT by Liz
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To: All
Republican congressman promises House will stop Obama’s abuse of power
Coach is Right ^ | 2/20/14 | Doug Book FR Posted by Oldpuppymax

Barack Hussein Obama has spent 5 years ignoring both the law of the land and constitutionally imposed limits on the power of the presidency. So far, republicans in both the House and Senate have done precious little to take this corrupt, Marxist plant to task on his countless abuses of executive authority.

But on Monday, during a segment with FOX News political analyst Jeanine Pirro, Congressman Trey Gowdy of South Carolina promised viewers that the House will use the “power of the purse” to end Obama’s obsession with rule rather than governance.

When Pirro asked the congressman if House republicans were actually going to DO it, Gowdy energetically responded “Blank Yeah,” (just in case his mother was watching.) more at coachisright.com ...

29 posted on 05/10/2014 4:46:35 AM PDT by Liz
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To: All

"As I stand here before you today to introduce our Commander
in Chief, please permit me to paraphrase the late, great HL Mencken."

"The office of president represents the inner soul of the people.
On Nov 2008, the plain folks of this land reached their heart's
desire. At long last they voted to adorn the White House with a
downright moron.' ”

30 posted on 05/10/2014 4:50:02 AM PDT by Liz
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To: mandaladon

The democrats are not going to boycott this. They will do what they always do: act like monkeys throwing around turds in order to de-legitimize it.


31 posted on 05/10/2014 4:57:56 AM PDT by BRL
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To: mandaladon
Democratic leaders have called the new committee “a political ploy,” a “stunt,” a “sham,” a “waste of taxpayer dollars” and, in the words of White House spokesman Jay Carney, “

STRANGE INDEED. I remember Watergate ONE, like it was yesterday and I don't recall any RATS stating it was a waste of taxpayer dollars back in the 1970s. No indeedie - when it is a GOP President to bring down no amount of tax dollars can be enough if you have a 'D' after your name. Go after a 'D' and they refuse to corporate and go kicking and screaming to the Obama Media Group for cover - WHY CAN'T THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SEE THROUGH THE HYPOCRISY? And by that I mean Joe Six Pack, not people here at FR.

IF these hearings do not stop Hitlery's run for the WH in 2016 then I will know for sure that America and its gutter culture are indeed over.
32 posted on 05/10/2014 7:10:03 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: blueunicorn6
A Democrat President convicted of treason? Ouch!

That is a fantasy that ain't never coming true. Take it to the bank.
33 posted on 05/10/2014 7:11:45 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Liz

There’s a vocal chorus of Democrats urging Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi to boycott Trey Gowdy’s Benghazi committee. .... First of all it wouldn’t be a boycott. Boycott needed workers to bring in his crops, so he could make a profit off Irish who were not going to be fairly recompensed. What they are arguing for here is “Don’t attend so we can scream UNFAIRNESS! UNFAIRNESS!” Pelosi and many other Committees weighed the committees against Republicans in prior years. Trey needs to invite them to appoint four Dems to attend and when they say “No.” , shrug and continue with the hearings. If it is found later to be extrajudicial, the FACTS will be out there, with NO Dummycrat shenanigans.


34 posted on 05/10/2014 7:27:34 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Yosemitest
Would be a site to behold if one of the five does dig into Benghazi will an ALL-OUT effort and NO MERCY, that throws ALL their guilty under the bus and into prison

What a site that would be and you are correct, would be a major game changer and the biggest DANGER the DemocRATS have by appointing their five is one seeking a chance to lead.

35 posted on 05/10/2014 7:50:10 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: mandaladon

> Democratic leaders have called the new committee “a political ploy,” a “stunt,” a “sham,” a “waste of taxpayer dollars” and,in the words of White House spokesman Jay Carney,“a blatantly political and partisan effort.”<

> cautiously weighing which strategy would be riskier politically<

So Mr. Moody wrote this crap article and can’t even see the blatant hypocrisy in his own words? Explain to me again who is making it political? This idiot just told you in his own damn article!!


36 posted on 05/10/2014 8:59:52 AM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: Gene Eric
"In the case of reopening an investigation into the events of Sept. 11, 2012, in Libya, Democrats are stuck"

Huh, I must have missed this. WHEN did the press "investigate" the "events" of Sept. 11, 2012?

Yeah, gotta love the MSM.

It was an "event". Kind of like a "happening" or "be-in".

37 posted on 05/10/2014 3:15:57 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: mandaladon

Yahoo news is the wannabe electronic NY Times so be wary of what you read there. Bad journalism is like your wife slipping you a little ant poison every day. Not enough to kill you just enough to make you unaware that what you are consuming is killing you slowly but surely. So it is with the liberal media.


38 posted on 05/11/2014 2:48:11 AM PDT by cashless (Obama told us he would side with Muslims if the political winds shifted in an ugly direction. Ready?)
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To: mandaladon
There’s a vocal chorus of Democrats urging Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi to boycott the committee altogether. Appointing members to the committee would lend credibility to the investigation, they fear, and it would force Democrats to risk being pawns in a Republican political game.

Rep Gowdy should just nip this in the bud and choose 5 more TEApublican firebrands to be on the committee, especially if they are veterans.

Now that would be a truly "select committee".

Ska-rew the RATs.

39 posted on 05/11/2014 12:00:00 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: mandaladon
By the Democrats' own definition, the vote for instituting the select committee was bipartisan.

Carney has already completely worn out any vestige of integrity he might have ever tenuously been thought to have and is nothing more than a thoughtless conduit for the administration's mendacious bilge.

HF

40 posted on 05/11/2014 3:08:46 PM PDT by holden
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Because what you say will occur to at least a couple of sane heads among the Dim nutjobs, I believe the Dems will indeed fill the five chairs given them with some of their vilest, lyin'ist, most vocal advocates, just so the "news media" will have their style of talking points broadcast as if that nonsense were clearly winning the day, every day the committee is in session and thereafter.

If they don't participate, they and their candidates will really be in for a bloodbath, come November and 2016!

HF

41 posted on 05/11/2014 3:22:20 PM PDT by holden
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To: mandaladon

The obvious conclusion to draw from this “dilemma” of the Dems is that they are more interested in politics than justice, and see this purely in terms of Hillary’s and their party’s chances, rather than an investigation into the savage murder of US servicemen and diplomats. This is like the Wellstone funeral to the tenth power. Let them put that in their pipe and smoke it.


42 posted on 05/11/2014 3:24:45 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: boop
Yeah, the MSM really went after the administration for not getting the FBI to the site for over two weeks, didn't they? And they certainly had no big issue with how the place had been "compromised," eh? Imagine a Republican administration being given such a pass! Ha!

And the press minions really went after Obama for not fulfilling his pledge to bring the perpetrators of Benghazi attack to justice, didn't they?

The MSM are sniveling, useless, corrupt suck-ups!

HF

43 posted on 05/11/2014 3:28:14 PM PDT by holden
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To: no-to-illegals; Yosemitest
Yes, yes, such a Dem on the committee could change the landscape for the Dem party, maybe even saving it from the total destruction it deserves, but the Dems are nothing if not relentlessly purging of their own ranks to remove disloyalty and novel thinking through their brands of corruption.

Dems won't make such a mistake, unless God's own Hand brings it about.

HF

44 posted on 05/11/2014 3:37:28 PM PDT by holden
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To: digger48

Something everyone should remember, the hearing
didn’t put democrats in this spot, the democrats
put themselves in this spot!!!


45 posted on 05/11/2014 11:16:01 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Graewoulf

They call themselves the exact opposite of what they are...a bunch of backward thinking wanna-be Boss Hoggs! I believe they will not be able to help themselves as they will run around after the hearings every day and cry “Ascrimination”, “racism”, “Sexism”, etc. at these hearings. I’ll even give odds that one of them will “come out of the closet” so then they can yell “Homo-phobia”!


46 posted on 05/12/2014 5:29:11 AM PDT by gr8eman (There's no "R" in Warshington!)
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To: mandaladon

The Democrats are trying to assess whether or not, or convince, their media counterparts to boycott all the hearings. The problem is that the material and the evidence is pure dynamite. And the outcomes will be significant.

The minimum outcome of this investigation is that Hillary Clinton will not be the Dem nominee.

The sky’s the limit for the maximum outcome.


47 posted on 05/12/2014 7:32:55 AM PDT by kidd
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To: kidd
The Democrats are trying to assess whether or not, or convince, their media counterparts to boycott all the hearings. The problem is that the material and the evidence is pure dynamite. And the outcomes will be significant.

A corollary to the Dems decision not to serve on the committee is for the administration not to cooperate with the committee.

I anticipate they will refuse to respond to any and all subpoenas the committee might issue. In which case, there will no evidence that is "pure dynamite".

Instead, there will be a Constitutional impasse...and more months of delay while the courts try to sort it out. At the end of which, the likely administration response to the court's orders will be "Try and make us".

48 posted on 05/12/2014 7:44:54 AM PDT by okie01
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To: okie01

There is plenty to be brought to light without the cooperation of the WH.

Aside from the mystery evidence that Trey Gowdy claims to have on hand, there is
- the timing of the change in the name of the video
- the State Department’s 11am proclaimation that the video was to blame
- the whereabouts of the POTUS during the attack
- Clinton’s refusal to improve readiness
- the difference in materials released to Judicial Watch and Congressional requests

and so forth. And the mere lack of cooperation sets up a Constitutional crisis.


49 posted on 05/12/2014 8:21:48 AM PDT by kidd
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To: kidd
And the mere lack of cooperation sets up a Constitutional crisis.

Which may be exactly what they want.

50 posted on 05/12/2014 1:32:44 PM PDT by okie01
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