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How the Israelis got their hands on an Iraqi Mig-21 Fishbed
The Aviationist ^ | Apr 28 2014 | Dario Leone

Posted on 04/28/2014 9:14:47 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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To: Still Thinking

That’s the NATO designation. Fighters are usually given an “F” name of some kind.


21 posted on 04/28/2014 9:47:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
From Wikipedia:

. . .High losses to Egyptian aircraft and continuous bombing during the War of Attrition caused Egypt to ask the Soviet Union for help. In June 1970, Soviet pilots and SAM crews arrived with their equipment. On 22 June 1970, a Soviet pilot flying a MiG-21MF shot down an Israeli A-4E. After some more successful intercepts by Soviet pilots and another Israeli A-4 being shot down on 25 July, Israel decided to plan an ambush in response. On 30 July Israeli F-4s lured Soviet MiG-21s into an area where they were ambushed by Mirages. Asher Snir, flying a Mirage IIICJ, destroyed a Soviet MiG-21; Avihu Ben-Nun and Aviam Sela, both piloting F-4Es, each got a kill, and an unidentified pilot in another Mirage scored the fourth kill against the Soviet-flown MiG-21s. Three Soviet pilots were killed and the Soviet Union was alarmed by the losses. However, Soviet MiG-21 pilots and SAM crews destroyed a total of 21 Israeli aircraft, which helped to convince the Israelis to sign a ceasefire agreement. . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-21#Egyptian-Syrian-Israeli_conflicts

22 posted on 04/28/2014 9:50:11 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Still Thinking

NATO codenames for Soviet aircraft are all mildly insulting and not at all what the host air force would have chosen.

Would a Soviet pilot be proud to fly his own “Fishbed”?

The world’s largest helicopter was the Soviet Mi-12 “Homer”, I mean, come on.


23 posted on 04/28/2014 10:01:43 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Right. Flanker, Fulcrum, etc. Bombers (Bear, Bison, Backfire, etc.) Helos (Hip, Hind and so on). I was bitching about the actual choice of specific F-word -- Fishbed?? For God's sake, was Fox used? Fido? Freemason?
24 posted on 04/28/2014 10:02:37 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Fiji Hill
That NATO code name is better than the one for the MiG-15.

Heh heh, true enough.

25 posted on 04/28/2014 10:05:34 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Undoubtedly named that by some GS-14 tennis-shoe wearing grandma at Fort Fumble.


26 posted on 04/28/2014 10:05:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Paladin2
In the nosecone.


27 posted on 04/28/2014 10:12:00 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Still Thinking

If the _resident flew a Soviet aircraft, would it be a MiG-15?


28 posted on 04/28/2014 10:48:30 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: Regulator
You can buy them online today

Yeah, but what does it cost to run one?

Always thought they were beautiful airplanes.

29 posted on 04/28/2014 11:13:23 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: sukhoi-30mki
However the two aircraft were found to be nearly evenly matched, and it was the pilot’s skill and determination that largely determined the outcome of an engagement between the two.

Seems to always be the case.

37 posted on 04/29/2014 1:18:05 AM PDT by fso301
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“Just out of curiosity, has any American pilot ever defected with a new aircraft type?”

You did have that P3 crew surrender their plane to the Chinese in 2001 or so...rather than acting in their country’s interested and taking it down in the ocean.


38 posted on 04/29/2014 1:30:23 AM PDT by BobL
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Do you suppose all those ads portraying/promoting military service as a “job” might have created a different ,less patriotic, attitude in the crew?


39 posted on 04/29/2014 2:39:15 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Still Thinking

Some Soviet aircraft are shamless copies of US aircraft, like the B-29, the F-111, and the Spcace Shutle.

Maybe the next obvious knock-off will be the Mig-69 Fluffer. Huh-huh-huh.


40 posted on 04/29/2014 2:44:41 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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