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With Ukraine in turmoil, Hagel canít get Russian counterpart to take his calls
Washington Times ^ | 4-25-2014 | Maggie Ybarra

Posted on 04/25/2014 12:27:40 PM PDT by tcrlaf

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel has been unable to get Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu on the phone amid escalating tension near the country’s shared border with Ukraine.

Mr. Shoigu announced Thursday that Russia planned to engage in a new series of military exercises near the Ukraine border. The military move, he said, is in response to ongoing NATO training exercises in Poland and the death of at least two pro-Russia insurgents in eastern Ukraine.

Army Col. Steve Warren, a Pentagon spokesman, told reporters Friday that Mr. Hagel has been trying to communicate with Russian officials but has yet to hear back from Mr. Shoigu or anyone else. Pentagon officials have reached out to Russia on Mr. Hagel’s behalf within the past 24 hours, according to Col. Warren.

“We have made it clear to the Russians that Secretary Hagel is available for a phone call at any time,” he said. “We have reached out to them and made it very to them that he is willing to speak to his counterpart there at any time.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: cia; hagel; putinsbuttboys; russia; shoigu; ukraine
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The Russians don't want to hear from Hagel? I can't imagine why....

Meanwhile, CNBC was calling for Obama to come up with a "Military Option" for this situation. Are they nuts????

1 posted on 04/25/2014 12:27:40 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

If you want respect, you got to earn it.

All over again.

Because the previous Administrations of the US Federal Government once had this respect, and it was acknowledged all over the world.

But the Current Regime has drizzled it completely away, all in the name of wanting to be “loved”.

So they have ended up neither loved nor respected.


2 posted on 04/25/2014 12:34:44 PM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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Hey Chucky, when the phone don't ring you know it's Sergei.

Hey Chucky, here's a quarter, call someone who cares.

3 posted on 04/25/2014 12:34:45 PM PDT by AU72
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To: tcrlaf

“Meanwhile, CNBC was calling for Obama to come up with a “Military Option” for this situation. Are they nuts???? “

Military options are perfectly fine for liberals. They only don’t work when conservatives use them.

Liberals love a great war...as long as they entered us into it.


4 posted on 04/25/2014 12:36:45 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

I’ve been following some of the lib websites like Kos, and some of the more radical ones.

They have been calling for blood (from military attacks to outright murder)from the beginning of this, for the dire Russian crime of dissing Obama.

It’s a reminder of just how nuts the people running today’s Democrat Party really are.


5 posted on 04/25/2014 12:41:07 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: AU72

“Hey Chucky, when the phone don’t ring you know it’s Sergei.”

I wonder what Hagel’s FSB profile file looks like?


6 posted on 04/25/2014 12:42:30 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

What?

Do they know what the Russian force doctrine is? Is the Crimea worth a nuke on New York?


7 posted on 04/25/2014 12:48:07 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: tcrlaf

Mr. Shoigu is . . . . busy.


8 posted on 04/25/2014 12:51:42 PM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: alloysteel

Excellent post.

In this world you have to say what you mean, and mean what you say. Empty talk soon becomes very dangerous.

Weakness invites aggression. Always has, always will.


9 posted on 04/25/2014 12:55:38 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: tcrlaf

What is Hagel going to do?

Invade Russia? I can’t see why on earth Russia has to pick the phone when he calls.

The Americans should restrain the Maidan regime. But I can imagine Shoigu doesn’t want to hear a lecture from Hagel about Russia not living up to its commitments.


10 posted on 04/25/2014 12:56:48 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: tcrlaf

Sounds like some ringers here.


11 posted on 04/25/2014 12:57:15 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: tcrlaf

I haven’t seen too many liberals calling for military action at all. I’ve seen most of the leftist agree with Obama’s weak, feckless foreign policy. They justify and excuse it.

The hawks on this seem to be the McCain’s and Graham’s of the world. Same people that were most excited about bombing Syria.

Much as I don’t particularly care for McCain or Lindsey, I do find myself on the hawkish side of foreign and defense policy, and it concerns me that this libertarian isolationist streak is developing within the party. I am not so sure letting Russia gobble up parts of Ukraine is, regardless of whether you think the coup govt in Kiev is good or bad, a very good idea.

I also don’t believe Russia is really particularly strong. I think Putin is playing a masterful hand with a pair of two’s. They’ve upgraded their military and perhaps 20% of it is 1st world now, but I am not even convinced they could hold any part Ukraine outside of the immediate east.

I think Putin is a thug and has once again pulled the Russian people away from any chance they had for a workable democracy. I wouldn’t mind finding a way to bloody his nose here. If that takes sending weapons to Ukraine, I’d consider it - especially if Russia went for the whole enchilada (all of Ukraine). I think outside the east (and even in parts of the east), the Ukrainians would bleed Russia via guerrilla/partisan actions until they withdrew. I’d be all for helping them with equipment and arms.

Unfortunately we have idiot Obama in office and, whatever your views on this, I think we can all agree he has ensured the world has no respect for us at all.


12 posted on 04/25/2014 1:00:49 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: tcrlaf

Russian Gestures — How to Speak, Eat and Drink with the Russians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uSw_JC_xOw

Funny Jokes About Russians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjhPIw1kmIc


13 posted on 04/25/2014 1:17:46 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: tcrlaf

I wouldn’t take Hagel’s calls either.

He’s a loser.

If Russia invades, what is the US under this bunch gonna do? Seriously?

It’s always funny when Peaceniks and anti-war activists try to talk tough.


14 posted on 04/25/2014 1:19:43 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: tcrlaf

Sounds as if the US under this cockamamie Administration has amateurishly wandered right up to the brink of war.

My hope is that FR folks use judicious and wise use of their words on FR, at least until we are past what appears to be coming.


15 posted on 04/25/2014 1:20:41 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: tcrlaf

Hagel will have to go out in front of the cameras like Rodney Dangerfield used to do and say “I don’t get no respect, no respect....”

Seriously, the whole strategy right now is containment.

The Ukrainians being advised by guys like Hagel are limiting their military action to avoid a massive Russian response.

The Ukrainian operations are right out of the Robert McNamara playbook, the Donald Rumsfeld playbook.

The Russians are being held back like the Communists in Vietnam were 50 years ago and the Taliban and Al Quaeda were in Afghanistan in the W Bush era. There was no desire for a “wider war” with nuke countries like the Soviets and or Pakistan.

George Patton and Douglas MacArthur aren’t in charge of the situation, here.

I tend to think we should stay out of this situation since it would only humiliate this country to be a loser if we get in.


16 posted on 04/25/2014 1:45:21 PM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: Nextrush; All

“Seriously, the whole strategy right now is containment. The Ukrainians being advised by guys like Hagel are limiting their military action to avoid a massive Russian response.”

I see it as the exact opposite...
The phone lines from Washington are likely on fire, demanding action, that the Ukrainians “Do Something!!!”

Immediately after Hagel’s visit, they announced an attack on the pro-Russians that ended embarassingly.

Immediately after Biden’s visit, they announce another offensive that gets repelled, and causes Russia to start rattling sabres.

This has become a world-wide embarrassment for Obama, as well as impacting the larger efforts the Saudi’s have been pushing of Energy Geopolitics. They want ACTION for their money.


17 posted on 04/25/2014 2:08:20 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

I don’t think that, “Don’t you know who I am?”, is going to work for Hagel in this situation.


18 posted on 04/25/2014 2:21:07 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: tcrlaf

If the Russians move into eastern Ukraine there will be some sanctions but nothing other than defensive military steps by the US-NATO.

The traditional strategy is to contain, not destroy and defeat enemies. Its been that way with a bipartisan foreign policy by our leaders since WW II.

Like Don Rumsfeld said not too many years ago, this war on terror is not like WW II, its a “new kind of war”.li

No total victory like the kind we got over Germany and Japan in WW II.


19 posted on 04/25/2014 2:30:34 PM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: redgolum
"Do they know what the Russian force doctrine is? Is the Crimea worth a nuke on New York?"

The answer to the first question: to advance, huff, puff and gesture like southwestern Europeans while making threats, then retreat.

Answer to the second question: there will be no "nuke on New York," so the question was invalid. Russia might be capable of physically launching a few before seeing all of its ground positions destroyed, and anything that made it into the air would be destroyed before reaching us.

Much propaganda has been issued about weapons capabilities of Russia and the West. All that Russia can do in its new effort to conquer the world is to try to win enough hearts and minds in the West to try to affect western politics. Not surprisingly, they've seen more success with that in recently convincing some Baby Boomer and Gen-X Americans (spoiled rotten).


20 posted on 04/25/2014 2:43:51 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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