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Police might be tracking you, but you can't see the records
Post Standard: Syracuse NY ^ | April 24, 2014 at 8:38 AM | By Marnie Eisenstadt | meisenstadt@syracuse.com

Posted on 04/24/2014 6:33:33 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- Onondaga County has 5.2 million records showing where drivers have been over the past year. But if you'd like to know what the county has on your travels, you're out of luck.

Police cars throughout the county are outfitted with special cameras -- license plate readers -- that take hundreds of pictures of license plates a minute. Those records, showing the plate and where it was photographed, are warehoused in the county's database and held for a year.

Onondaga County denied a Freedom of Information Law request from me for all records they had on my license plate.

The reason: Turning over those records would "reveal criminal investigative procedures and techniques."

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New York earlier this month announced it would dole out $550,270 for police departments across the state to purchase 27 more license plate readers.

(Excerpt) Read more at syracuse.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: license; police; readers; spying
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

A women I work with (upstate NY) was pulled over a month ago for “having a dirty license plate”. She was like: “Have you ever heard of such a thing...???”

Now we know.


41 posted on 04/24/2014 1:44:25 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Whenifhow

I wonder what would happen to any of us if we suddenly got off the grid. That would probably be a huge red flag to big brother.


42 posted on 04/24/2014 3:07:52 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: servantboy777

I have a car that I bought new in 1996. I recently renewed the Texas tags and they sent me new plates. I wonder what’s on those things.


43 posted on 04/24/2014 3:12:54 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: bgill

One of the problems is there are too many people who blame one party or the other. It’s EVERYONE from BOTH parties.


44 posted on 04/24/2014 3:14:42 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

I find it fascinating that this was predicted in the Bible 2000 years ago.


45 posted on 04/24/2014 3:15:27 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Cyber Liberty

See my post #42.


46 posted on 04/24/2014 3:16:38 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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bkmk


47 posted on 04/24/2014 3:49:57 PM PDT by Faith65 (Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior!)
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To: VerySadAmerican
Take a look at them. They have several items of interest. First a water mark hologram that signals the vision system that it has an identifiable plate.

The squiggly lines separating the characters are to segment for the vision system so the software can capture, segment and process the plate.

The enhanced reflectivity of the plate allows them to read your plate up to 110 mph. That is, your auto traveling at a certain speed toward the officer's vehicle also traveling a certain speed. They can also read your plate in the dark of night with very little ambient light.

Officers now run through parking lots of shopping centers reading hundreds of plates looking for stolen autos, expired registration/vehicle inspection and lapsed insurance. Everything is tied to your plate. Even concealed handgun lic.

Here in Harris co., they've mounted multiple readers on patrol cars...looks retarded, but they can cruise down the road and read hundreds of plates in any direction...all at once and process in seconds. An alarm sounds when a plate with an issue is processed.

Soon in Texas, already deployed in yankee states, these readers along roadways, highway overpasses. They will track your comings and your goings. Leave town for the weekend, they'll know when you've left and when you arrive back in town as well as your destination.

Serious breach of public trust, serious breach of privacy...and no one saw it coming. No one voted for it, no one was informed. They just did all this for the sake of safety.

48 posted on 04/24/2014 4:56:04 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: VerySadAmerican

“One of the problems is there are too many people who blame one party or the other. It’s EVERYONE from BOTH parties.”

We’ve been conditioned by the media and politicians to condition average Americans to fight with each other, while the crony capitalists on both sides plunder us and the authoritarians spy and monitor us.


49 posted on 04/25/2014 7:01:41 AM PDT by apoliticalone
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Mount cameras on your cars and around your homes. There are free software and cheap equipment for that. Such things are best suited to your personal security than to increasing intimidation, taxes/fees and suppression of economic activity.


50 posted on 04/25/2014 11:51:38 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Private license plate cameras are great for rural residents, too. They can even be shared and are great for trespassing cases.


51 posted on 04/25/2014 11:54:24 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: servantboy777

I didn’t respond until I had a chance to look at the plate. And the two squiggly lines are there. You state the plates will alert the cops if the “car” has an issue. I truly believe one “issue” the car might have if it’s owner posts on conservative websites. If the cop is alerted that the “car” has a problem, he starts looking for a reason to stop the car and question the inhabitant.


52 posted on 04/26/2014 9:03:48 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Oberon

ping for that app!


53 posted on 04/27/2014 10:25:24 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: FreedomPoster; Jumper
Look into a smartphone app called Waze.

This looks like it might do the trick... or maybe some minor modification of it.

WAZE

54 posted on 04/28/2014 6:14:21 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
[The use of license plate readers is both widespread and controversial. The technology, often federally funded, is banned in the state of New Hampshire. There are few states with laws that dictate how the mounds of data - collected mostly on law-abiding citizens - should be stored and used.]

Apparently this program was created and is largely funded by the feds, probably DHS. No doubt Syracuse forwards all their data to the feds who rely on willing local agencies in order to create a national data base.

55 posted on 04/28/2014 12:44:49 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: servantboy777

It’s amazing to me people don’t see it.

Very little of the snooping and data gathering is for actual law enforcement.
It’s to be used for controlling the populace by leveraging the data gathered.

In the not too distant future only those approved by the database owners will be fit for office. They’ll have something on EVERYBODY.


56 posted on 04/28/2014 2:14:42 PM PDT by subterfuge (Hey NSA snoop, get a real job you idiot!)
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bmfl


57 posted on 04/29/2014 3:30:02 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: servantboy777

As computer plate reading got better and better, this was to be expected.

It’s been used for years at toll plazas.

The algorithms are not perfect. If a “texty” vehicle (like a U-haul with its advertising signage) gets into the sight of the cameras, they can be distracted from the actual plate.

Some states are still single plate. You can be caught going but not coming. Tennessee, for instance.


58 posted on 04/29/2014 3:41:46 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
>>algorithms are not perfect. If a “texty” vehicle (like a U-haul with its advertising signage) gets into the sight of the cameras, they can be distracted from the actual plate.<<

Sorry, don't mean to call you out...but you do not understand today's vision capture technologies.

They are NOT susceptible to anything surrounding the plate. These systems work in conjunction with enhanced reflectivity/emissivity of the plate itself. The readers/processors can capture, process and alert officers within a fraction of a second, reading hundreds of plates per hour at high speeds, little ambient light.

Very advanced. The only way to defeat the system is to alter the plate in some way...many ways to accomplish this, but most are illegal.

59 posted on 04/29/2014 5:47:08 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

The folks who make toll booth plate readers would salivate for this. Why are they goofing around with character recognition?


60 posted on 04/29/2014 10:59:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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