Posted on 04/24/2014 6:33:33 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- Onondaga County has 5.2 million records showing where drivers have been over the past year. But if you'd like to know what the county has on your travels, you're out of luck.
Police cars throughout the county are outfitted with special cameras -- license plate readers -- that take hundreds of pictures of license plates a minute. Those records, showing the plate and where it was photographed, are warehoused in the county's database and held for a year.
Onondaga County denied a Freedom of Information Law request from me for all records they had on my license plate.
The reason: Turning over those records would "reveal criminal investigative procedures and techniques."
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New York earlier this month announced it would dole out $550,270 for police departments across the state to purchase 27 more license plate readers.
(Excerpt) Read more at syracuse.com ...
upstate bump
Hence why I get a patch of mud on my plates every chance I get.
Yeah, and?
The operations of a public agency are subject to public scrutiny, period.
...which, in New York, is grounds for both a ticket and reasonable cause to stop and [in some cases] search the vehicle.
Are there any decorative license plate covers that make your car look, ah, cool?
Goose, meet gander.
As the police are public servants performing public duties and so have no reasonable expectation of privacy, I think we should start photographing cop cars with identifying information at every opportunity. There should be an app for that, by which the movements of police can be tracked and made available to the public in real time.
East Germany called. They want their 1970’s surveillance state back.
That's over $20,000 for each camera. Somebody is stuffing their pockets with that contract.
Or just lousy writing while meaning some totally different. Like 27 additional police departments...
Pre-Crime Systems Now Actively Monitoring the Internet: “The Computer Algorithm Learns the Pattern and Produces a Prediction”
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/pre-crime-systems-now-actively-monitoring-the-internet-the-computer-algorithm-learns-the-pattern-and-produces-a-prediction_04232014
Look into a smartphone app called Waze.
The mere act of requesting the records will put a red check mark next to her file.
“As the police are public servants performing public duties and so have no reasonable expectation of privacy, I think we should start photographing cop cars with identifying information...”
LOL! Yeah, just wait & see how fast they slap an “obstruction” charge on you. Few things make a cop more nervous than being photographed or filmed in the course of doing his job.
But hey, some judge said flicking your headlights to warn traffic of a hidden speed trap is “free speech”. So there’s that...
Can't charge everybody...
“Can’t charge everybody...”
Which is why they stack charges on the photographers they do arrest. It’s the “intimidation factor” toward other would-be photographers.
Big Brother government is growing daily, and American personal liberty is becoming a thing of the past.
The problem here is not the sensors themselves, it is that after the license plates are tracked, that the data is preserved. So it is really two issues.
In the former case, every vehicle with a visible license plate that the sensors can read is immediately cross checked with the database, looking for stolen cars and outstanding warrants. And it is quite effective for those two things.
But, as with guns, while many people accept the need for an instant background check, most everyone except radical gun controllers wants that data to be “volatile”, that is, once the check is made, the data for the check is discarded, not retained by anyone.
The simple rationale for this is that if such a database exists, it *will*, *invariably*, be abused.
And this goes even further than the fourth amendment, needing a written and specific court warrant, because it is blanket surveillance of the public. Even judges cannot, or should not, be allowed to issue such a warrant.
We’re headed towards the very last Totalitarian State. It will literally be a OWG. The control and tracking of people will be vital to that gov’t being able to enforce it’s laws.
Did you know that right now Venezuela is already tracking the selling of all food, knowing who’s buying it and how much?
Did you know that right now Venezuela is mandating that anybody buying food cannot return to buy food for 8 days and minors are prohibited from buying since most live with their parents?
ID cards are also issued our for “food buyers”.
They are also required to be finger-printed.
All of this is being tracked in a data-base.
It’s only a matter of time before it hits here.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/04/venezuela-queues-food-ration-cards
[ We’re headed towards the very last Totalitarian State. It will literally be a OWG. The control and tracking of people will be vital to that gov’t being able to enforce it’s laws.
Did you know that right now Venezuela is already tracking the selling of all food, knowing who’s buying it and how much?
Did you know that right now Venezuela is mandating that anybody buying food cannot return to buy food for 8 days and minors are prohibited from buying since most live with their parents?
ID cards are also issued our for “food buyers”.
They are also required to be finger-printed. ]
However in this country you dare demand that voters show an ID and you are a horrible person....
Funny how in the future you will be required to show ID for everything EXCEPT voting, because to keep the police state in power they will need the people who aren’t supposed to vote to vote...
Maybe what they meant was that turning over those records would reveal the criminality of the investigative procedures and techniques.
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