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Senate candidate Monica Wehby tells GOP forum that abortion is 'personal decision'
Oregon Live ^ | January 24, 2014 at 4:09 PM | Jeff Mapes

Posted on 04/21/2014 8:29:23 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: Louis Foxwell

Abortion is not with the job description of the federal government, AKA the Constitution. It is within the jurisdiction of the state governments.


61 posted on 04/22/2014 1:16:18 PM PDT by rcofdayton (.)
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To: ansel12

Each of your paragraphs includes some kind of error. This conservative Christian libertarian Republican thinks you’re full of $#!@.


62 posted on 04/22/2014 1:18:12 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Lose to Cruz - 2016!)
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To: Atlas Sneezed

LOL, “”This conservative Christian libertarian Republican thinks you’re full of $#!@.””

Sodom and Gomorrah had plenty of libertarians, but was very short on conservatives.


63 posted on 04/22/2014 1:22:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: rcofdayton
Abortion is not with the job description of the federal government, AKA the Constitution. It is within the jurisdiction of the state governments.

What about on military base hospitals for federal military and in federal hospitals?

64 posted on 04/22/2014 1:24:24 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: SoConPubbie

Murdering a baby is a personal decision


65 posted on 04/22/2014 3:25:27 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: ansel12

There’s a difference between libertarians and Libertarians. More deception.


66 posted on 04/22/2014 10:22:16 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: FredZarguna

No there isn’t, the deception is to try that fake out while pushing the cult to different audiences, the Ted Kennedy argument, “I’m personally opposed, but.......

There is no argument between the libertarians and the party platform they created, to put their fantasies into political language.

What do you think you guys are always arguing against with the conservatives here, it sure isn’t about economics.


67 posted on 04/22/2014 10:36:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
More lies.

There is no libertarian party platform. There is a Libertarian Party platform.

Claiming all libertarians subscribe to the Libertarian Party platform is like claiming all conservatives adhere to the Republican Party platform; it's simply a lie.

Conservatives and libertarians don't argue about economics because they don't disagree about economics.

Duh.

68 posted on 04/22/2014 10:46:29 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: FredZarguna
There aren't any lies would you lay off that off that nonsense.

Of course not all libertarians agree perfectly with their philosophy, but they do agree enough to be libertarians instead of conservatives.

"Conservatives and libertarians don't argue about economics because they don't disagree about economics.
Duh."

NO KIDDING, SO WHY ARE LIBERTARIANS ALWAYS ARGUING AGAINST CONSERVATISM AND THE CONSERVATIVES OF FREEREPUBLIC? BECAUSE OF THE LEFT WING PORTIONS OF THEIR LIBERTARIAN AGENDA.

69 posted on 04/22/2014 10:56:15 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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>> Portland pediatric neurosurgeon Monica Wehby

A pediatric neurosurgeon ambivalent about the killing of nascent human life?

A woman’s sense of liberty must not be defined by having the right to kill.


70 posted on 04/22/2014 11:01:17 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: FredZarguna

>> There is no libertarian party platform. There is a Libertarian Party platform.

Correct.


71 posted on 04/22/2014 11:02:06 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ansel12

>> There is no disagreement between libertarianism and it’s party.

Basic libertarianism is about enforcement. LP is really a classic Liberal platform more than it is a libertarian platform.


72 posted on 04/22/2014 11:08:49 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

And there is no disagreement between libertarians and their libertarian party, that is why the libertarian war is against conservatism, and not libertarianism.


73 posted on 04/22/2014 11:13:33 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

There are indeed libertarians that support the LP platform — effectively supporting sodomy by law and killing nascent life by law. But there are also libertarians that support neither. Of course you’re free to apply a uniform characterization, but the generalization doesn’t help the valid part of your arguments concerning the flawed LP platform and those whom subscribe to it.


74 posted on 04/22/2014 11:25:53 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

The uniform characterization is that libertarians are self proclaimed and self identify as libertarians and support libertarianism over conservatism and to overcome conservatism and to defeat conservatism politically.

Do some of them stray from various points on purity, of course, a sane person can’t understand why a person claiming to be pro-life would support the pro-abortion libertarian movement, but some claim to, just as some democrats claim to be pro-life.


75 posted on 04/22/2014 11:32:36 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
People on FR argue about things they don't agree on. There are plenty of arguments here strictly between conservatives, and there are arguments strictly between libertarians.

You're the victim of a selection bias: when a libertarian argues with you, you think only libertarians argue with conservatives. When a conservative argues with you, you believe it's because of a single point of disagreement between you and one other person. You're over-generalizing.

76 posted on 04/23/2014 12:08:21 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: ansel12
So you have the arrogance to speak for all libertarians "and their libertarian party." As I wrote earlier, it's pointless to argue with you. You're either not terribly bright, or your'e engaged in deliberate misrepresentation.

You've been called out on this many times before. You simply don't know what you're talking about.

77 posted on 04/23/2014 12:11:27 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: FredZarguna
You're the victim of a selection bias: when a libertarian argues with you, you think only libertarians argue with conservatives.

Is that dishonest, or just silly? Libertarians argue with conservatives because they oppose them, since FR is a conservative site, that means we and libertarians argue about the libertarian's left wing views and politics.

For instance abortion, and gay marriage, the border, the gay agenda, drugs, national defense, etc., the usual issues that divide left and right.

78 posted on 04/23/2014 9:46:46 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
Completely untrue. For example: libertarians don't support the gay agenda.

Another example: the idea of keeping the federal government out of drugs is a conservative position. Channel William F. Buckley Jr., or James Madison and see what they have to say.

Talk about silly; in your blind hatred of Libertarians (whom you misidentify as libertarians) you actually think that all conservatives are social conservatives. Wrong. Only about half of those identifying as conservative say that their religion is a significant component of their political ideology.

79 posted on 04/23/2014 11:49:58 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: FredZarguna

Libertarians do support the homosexual agenda and gay marriage, it is probably our biggest argument with libertarians here at FR, in fact we have to deal with everyday, as you said, libertarians/Libertarians and conservatives agree on economic issues, the disagreement is that libertarians are left on social issues.

Libertarianism:
“”Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government’s treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.””


Rand Paul: (selling that agenda to GOP voters)
“I think that the Republican Party, in order to get bigger, will have to agree to disagree on social issues,” Paul advised. “The Republican Party is not going to give up on having quite a few people who do believe in traditional marriage. But the Republican Party also has to find a place for young people and others who don’t want to be festooned by those issues.”


80 posted on 04/23/2014 11:57:44 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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