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7 Things Conservatives Should Take Away From Last Week’s Siege On Nevada
Western Journalism ^ | April 15, 2014 | MICHAEL OBERNDORF

Posted on 04/15/2014 12:59:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

The events in Nevada this week have made a number of things crystal clear:

1) Our government, at least at the upper management/executive service level, is incredibly corrupt.

2) Senator Harry Reid (D-NV), Senate Majority Misleader, is incredibly corrupt.

3) Obama’s Executive Branch, which allowed this situation to take place in the way that it did, is incredibly corrupt.

4) The judicial branch that has consistently allowed “environmentalists” to dictate public land policy is incredibly corrupt.

5) The “environmentalists” and their co-conspirators in Congress who foisted the so-called “Endangered Species Act” and numerous other extreme laws on us, and turned a blind eye to the above mentioned corruption, are incredibly corrupt.

6) The massive amount of “public land” controlled by the federal government in the West is anything but public.

7) If the United States of America is to survive as a single, sovereign nation, the states, and particularly the Western states, need to take back the land unconstitutionally ruled over by the federal government.

There is a movement among a handful of state legislators in the West to get the federal government to turn back the land they have taken over the years and “managed” with agencies like the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), the USDA-Forest Service, the Corps of Engineers, the Natural Resources Conservation Service (NRCS), and the Bureau of Reclamation (BOR) (none of which appear to be authorized by the Constitution.) We need to aid and abet this movement as if our lives depend upon it. But, let me make clear here, that we are not talking about the middle and lower management and field personnel. The vast majority of these folks are hard-working Americans who give the taxpayers their money’s worth and more on a daily basis. It’s the executive level, the Washington bureaucrats, their political...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Colorado; US: Idaho; US: Montana; US: Nevada; US: New Mexico; US: Oregon; US: Utah; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; blm; bundy; bundyranch; corruption; fascism; govtabuse; neofascists; nevada; obama; publiclands; reid
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To: Jim Robinson
How simple can it be? The cows fertilized the earth, creating better vegetation for the tortoises and other wildlife.

That's some really arid land out there, and the vegetation needs all the help it can get.

21 posted on 04/15/2014 1:31:03 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: Publius
The reason [the states cannot take their land back is because]... the federal entity has pledged this land as collateral to China in return for their purchase of our debt.

Talk about a breach of national security!
What federal actions actually effected such pledges, and what enabling programs, policies or legislature can you recommend for study of this issue?

22 posted on 04/15/2014 1:33:23 PM PDT by frog in a pot (We are all "frogs in a pot" now. How and when will we real Americans jump out?)
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To: Jim Robinson

But why doesn’t anybody address the corruption?

Or is corruption the whole basis of the system?

If so, are there any points of the system that are vulnerable, so it may be completely and irreversibly broken up?

“You can’t beat somebody with nobody”- so where is the man with a plan to, first, dismantle the existing structure, and second, substitute a more practical and reliable structure?


23 posted on 04/15/2014 1:39:02 PM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: frog in a pot
This is not a matter of written law, it's a matter of gentlemen's agreements and handshakes over drinks at Davos and other places where the financial elites meet.

If you want a federal action, just take a look at what the federal entity is doing in the West, the Bundy case being one of the more egregious.

Concerning national security, when the whole thing blows, I would hope we'd see some serious treason trials, but the federal entity is holding a lot of firepower.

24 posted on 04/15/2014 1:40:39 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Sometimes I am a little slow on the uptake, but I see a pattern here. CORRUPTION in Biblical proportions :-)


25 posted on 04/15/2014 1:44:29 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Publius

it is my belief that this is why Ozero wants to kill the coal industry. china wants our coal


26 posted on 04/15/2014 1:46:22 PM PDT by South Dakota (shut up and build a bakken pipe line)
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To: alloysteel

all we need is a leader with strength and vision and integrity and


27 posted on 04/15/2014 1:53:26 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: TigersEye

I’ve done a fair amount of research on this today.

I don’t think it has anything to do with a Harry/Rory Reid Chinese Solar project. Maybe, a planned wind project, but not a solar project. The maps from the BLM simple don’t show a solar project for that area. There is however a wind project that may be involved.

BLM has a long effort to save and re-locate the desert tortoise.

But why did they need to round-up cattle ?

Why did they need to send in armed Rangers to round-up cattle ?

Why now and why there ?

The BLM’s “Desert Tortoise Conservation Center” talks about “receiving wild tortoises in harms way from development”.

http://www.blm.gov/nv/st/en/fo/lvfo.html

On that same page is a link to “Current District Federal Register Notices”

Notice of Temporary Closure on Public Lands in the Gold Butte, Mormon Mesa, and Bunkerville Flats Areas in the Northeastern Portion of Clark County, NV

This “notice” was also “Notice of Intent to Impound Unauthorized Livestock” March 19 2014. This is the action that has since been cancelled.

My questions are;

Why does the BLM need to round-up “unauthorized” grazing livestock in order to save/relocate the desert tortoise?

Would “Authorized” grazing livestock been left to graze ?

Do “unauthorized” grazing livestock pose a greater threat than “authorized” grazing livestock?

What does unauthorized mean ?

Are they unauthorized because they haven’t paid their fees ?

If the Impounding of unauthorized grazing livestock had nothing to do with the Desert Tortoise, then why was this tortoise issue brought to our attention in the first place?

I think the BLM’s “Desert Tortoise Conservation Center”, which they themselves state on their website “is scheduled to close in December 2014 due to funding issues”, saw an opportunity to seize the private property of Mr. Bundy to either hold for ransom or later sell in order to fund their continuing operations.

I would be surprised if the cost to send armed Rangers on this misguided action came from their budget.


28 posted on 04/15/2014 1:57:56 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I totally agre with everything that guy says.


29 posted on 04/15/2014 1:59:04 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ridesthemiles
The last line of “Checks and Balances” defense for “We, the People” was the Republican Leadership in the US House of Representatives until late 2014. When Reid and Obama shut down part of the US Federal Government last Autumn, that same Republican Leadership in the US House caved in to “Stonewall” Reid, and “No Negotiation” Obama, leaving “We, the People” with no Federal protection from the well documented, arrogant tyranny of the Obama Administration, and the Godless Democrat Party. Now “We, the People” are given a rare gifted opportunity to change our failed Republican Leadership in the US House and Senate, as we stand witness to the tyrannical brute force of the most powerful Nation that the World has ever known being leveled against an aged and last Rancher in Clark County, Nevada. Our patience with the cowardly Republican Members in the US House of Representatives is nearly gone, as we wait with dimming hope for them to quickly replace Boehner, McCarthy, Cantor, Issa, Rogers, King of NY, and Ryan with fire-in-the-belly Leaders such as Trey Gowdy, Wilson of SC, and Gomert of TEXAS. ____________________ The BFLM is currently a more accurate abbreviation of the BLM. The BFLM is the abbreviation for the Bureau of FEUDAL Land Management. Feudalism is what Europe was based on, and if it was good enough for Europe, then it is good enough for America! Currently, the purpose of the BFLM is to provide land, free of charge, to the Commune-organized Obamanation to do with as the ruling Senate and Administration Feudal Lord Democrats see fit. Predictions are that the cave-in Doormat Republican Leaders will, as usual, just huff and puff on TV, as required by the 2 year Congressional “No Fight Deal” that Ryan, Pelosi, Reid and Obama have forced them to sign. Obama now knows in his smug arrogance that his “Obamanation Transformation of the United States of America” will continue unchallenged as long as Boehner and McConnell are kept in power as leaders in Congress. “All ye lowly, collateral-damaged, Feudal Serfs bow to thine arrogant Feudal Democrat Lords!” FORWARD!
30 posted on 04/15/2014 2:06:14 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Night Hides Not
How simple can it be? The cows fertilized the earth, creating better vegetation for the tortoises and other wildlife.

It's simpler than that, even. The tortoises love cow poop. The digestive system of cattle is not terribly efficient, so a lot of the nutrients from the grass is left behind, and the tortoises have been thriving on cow patties.

This zero-sum business of fewer cattle = more tortoises is, well, bullcrap.

But just try to tell that to a know-nothing enviroweenie.

31 posted on 04/15/2014 2:16:39 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: TigersEye
Cows love tortoises and tortoises love cows.

Love's got nothing to do with it. The cattle droppings either fertilize the plants the tortoises feed upon, or the tortoises eat he manure as a dietary supplement.

32 posted on 04/15/2014 2:49:21 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: TigersEye

>>Cows love tortoises and tortoises love cows. It’s an
unnatural love but who are we to judge or interfere? ;^)<<

My mother taught me to judge when I was just a lil fella and I got into trouble when I didn’t judge correctly. If my cows start doing anything unnatural with turtles or tortoises they are going to the auction house and they know it.


33 posted on 04/15/2014 3:15:39 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: ridesthemiles

34 posted on 04/15/2014 3:18:57 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Publius
This is not a matter of written law, it's a matter of gentlemen's agreements and handshakes over drinks...

Well, good. If we have the right crew in D.C. that should make any attempted foreclosure somewhat problematic.

35 posted on 04/15/2014 3:48:52 PM PDT by frog in a pot (We are all "frogs in a pot" now. How and when will we real Americans jump out?)
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To: B4Ranch

Makes sense. The tortoises evolved in a land where buffalo grazed periodically.


36 posted on 04/15/2014 4:15:31 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: JimRed

You’re kidding me!?! That can’t possibly be!!!


37 posted on 04/15/2014 4:59:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: B4Ranch

LOL


38 posted on 04/15/2014 4:59:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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