Bluefin-21 deployed today in hunt for MH370 – JACC

The Malaysian Times ^ | April 14, 2014 | Paper Editor

[blueplum]

PERTH, Apr 14: The autonomous underwater vehicle (AUV) Bluefin-21 will be deployed later today, as the search operation for the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 continues underwater.

Joint Agency Coordination Centre (JACC) chief coordinator Air Chief Marshal (Retired) Angus Houston said the decision to deploy Bluefin was made as no further confirmed signals had been picked up by the towed pinger locator since Tuesday last week, reported Bernama.

:snip: ... the AUV, which had the ability to go down to 4,500m underwater, would be deployed on its first mission covering approximately an area of 40sq km in the vicinity of the detected signals.

Explaining that each Bluefin-21 mission would take a minimum of 24 hours, he said: “After two hours to get down to the bottom of the sea, it’ll then be on task for 16 hours, two hours to return to the surface and four hours to download and analise data collected.”

:snip: In another development, Houston said the Ocean Shield had detected an oil slick yesterday evening, about 5,500m within the vicinity of pings previously detected by the TPL.

“A sample of about two litres has been collected. Give it a few days before it reaches the shore and conclusively tested. The source of the oil has yet to be determined,” he said, adding that the investigation would take some time as it could not be done out at sea.

[blueplum]

no further pings so the BlueFin's going down.

[mabarker1]

“A sample of about two litres has been collected. Give it a few days before it reaches the shore and conclusively tested. The source of the oil has yet to be determined,” he said, adding that the investigation would take some time as it could not be done out at sea.

More proof of obfuscation and lies. Fly the samples in. What a huge load of carp this whole thing is.

And don't bring up the Malaysian govt BS again.

[SunkenCiv]

An Australian search official... retired Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, said... "The Australian Joint Acoustic Analysis Centre has analysed the acoustic data and confirmed that the signal reported in the vicinity of the Australian Defence Vessel Ocean Shield is unlikely to be related to the aircraft black boxes," ... [MH370 Black Box Rumors Unfounded: Search Leader]

[blueplum]

The Ocean Shield isn't equipped to test what kind of oil the oil is. It's the only ship on-site, and they say the slick didn't come from them, so the logical thing to do is motorboat it to Perth and have the guys in the labcoats tell us whether it's the type used in aircraft engines or no. Maybe a few of those earthquakes in that region lately shook something loose or maybe its just oil fissure from the bottom and it's nothing. I know an area north of there did have some sort of surveying for oil so it's a wait and see.

There are those who want to keep knawing on the Russians propaganda machine story (which btw, Russia has changed from the Diego Garcia story to a starving-in-huts-in-Pakistan story) and there are those who believe that all 26 nations involved in this are conspiring together to devastate family members, and then there are those who have some faith we are going to find the plane right where we are looking -a place we had to argue to be.

It was the Russians who started the Diego Garcia propaganda, which was encouraged within the muslim world for obvious reasons - with many articles in that part of the world calling for disclosure - in an attempt to force out information about the who/what/where/why of the US operations at Diego. Diego was a ruse from the start. Just as the huts in Pakistan story is a ruse.

And yes, I will bring up Malaysia again, as it seems now they want to argue over who gets the black box first, after already agreeing that the Aussies were to handle it. http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/04/13/MH370-search-blackbox-custody/

[Uncle Chip]

Release the hounds ... uhh I mean the BlueFin.

[DaveA37]

So who is to say the Malaysians haven’t dropped some phony “black box” to give false pretense to their claim of the plane actually having gone down into the sea? Sending out artificial “pings”. (Tin hat theory, you bet). Batteries would run out and the box never would be found.

Can you imagine the size of that one “box” compared to the area they have designated as their target zone? Like looking for one particular grain of sand on a sandy beach some 500 miles in length.

[blueplum]

The DailyMail article of April 10 sheds a little better light perhaps than NBC’s headline, on why Abbot may have sounded more enthusiastic than Houston. Note the comment by Capt.Matthews:

“Despite what Mr Houston described as ‘further encouraging findings’ he said that the underwater vehicle ‘Blue Fin 21’... would not be launched until the search area could be narrowed.
‘I believe we are searching in the right area, but....I’m not prepared to confirm anything until such time as somebody lays eyes on the wreckage.’
However, U.S. Navy Captain Mark Matthews said the detections indicate the device emitting the pings is somewhere within about a 12-mile radius. “
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2602134/Aviation-expert-claims-black-box-MH370-located-search-crews.html

[Uncle Chip]

So who is to say the Malaysians haven’t dropped some phony “black box” to give false pretense to their claim of the plane actually having gone down into the sea?

Why even do that??? Why not just mislead 14 nations into searching for a week for the plane in the South China Sea, then another week in the Malaca Straits all the while denying that it was diverted -- Ohh Yeh they already did that.

Sending out artificial “pings”.

artificial pings right along the 811 Inmarsat arc that spanked them silly -- they're dumb but not that dumb.

[Winniesboy]

It's the only ship on-site

It isn't. There's also HMS Echo, the latest in a distinguished line of specialised hydrographic survey ships of the Royal Navy dating back to HMS Challenger in the 1870s. See the following account of what they're doing from her captain:

This

[Uncle Chip]

that the signal reported in the vicinity of the Australian Defence Vessel Ocean Shield is unlikely to be related to the aircraft black boxes

The "signal" referred to here is the fifth ping detected by an aircraft flying overhead -- not the previous 4 pings that they believe were from the black boxes:

Search leaders had said Thursday that a new possible signal had been located underwater by an Australian navy aircraft. Houston said early Friday that signal was unlikely to be from the missing Boeing 777.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott said in a speech Friday in Shanghai that searchers were confident that they knew the relative position of the black boxes, Reuters reported.

But Abbott cautioned that "confidence in the approximate position of the black box is not the same as recovering wreckage from almost 4½ kilometers beneath the sea or finally determining all that happened on the flight."

[Jaded]

Really dudes? This is on level with the Three Stooges about now.

[Jack Hydrazine]

Has anyone heard updates if the sub ever found anything?
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/missing-mh370-british-nuclear-submarine-joins-hunt-jet-n70551

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/british-submarine-joins-mh370-hunt-in-the-indian-ocean-503254

[Georgia Girl 2]

Raise your hand if you still think any of this is real. LOL!

[CodeJockey]

It’s ridiculous now. When they first picked up the pings a week or so ago, they forgot to write down the gps coordinates of where the ship was when it heard the pings. Had they have done that, they could have went back to the exact same location and and dropped the Bluefin right on top of where they heard the first pings.

I don’t know were this plane is, but I don’t believe it’s in the ocean.

[Georgia Girl 2]

Yes this whole thing is beyond insane. The plane was either blown out of the sky by somebody’s govt for some unknown reason or its sitting on an airstrip somewhere again for unknown reasons.

[PghBaldy]

Wow. I had not heard that. Here’s an oddity - supposedly ALL of the passengers’ cell phones were switched off, while the pilot’s was switched on as it passed a cell tower in Malaysia. Over 200 people, and probably that many phones, all switched off? That seems very odd.

[blueplum]

thanks for catching that, Winniesboy. You are right. The Echo arrived in the Shield’s area on April 10 from points south where it was assisting the Haixun.

As far as I can tell from searching articles, the oil slick was first spotted on the evening of the 13th - so three days after the Echo arrived, but it is said not from the Shield or from the Echo.

[Uncle Chip]

supposedly ALL of the passengers’ cell phones were switched off, while the pilot’s was switched on as it passed a cell tower in Malaysia.

That's not an oddity since this occurred after the plane's 23 minute excursion to 45000ft that killed everybody but the pilot. There was nobody left alive to turn them on.

[blueplum]

So who is to say the Malaysians haven’t dropped some phony “black box”

ok, let's think this thru. As soon as the Inmarsat Arc is released, off somebody goes in a speedboat and drops a dummy. Wait, they can't take a speedboat because it's a 3200 mile trip from shore - in high seas. They won't have the room for all the gas they'll need for the trip. So they need a much larger, much slower vessel. One that needs a larger crew of skilled sailors, some of which may be likely to talk about their midnight cruise. Their larger ship could easily be spotted on satellite photos and by other marine traffic. And Indonesian radar. But off they go. Wait - they need a black box that has the same serial numbers of the MH370 box. Ok, they get that somehow and they're ready to sail.

Now they need the gps of the Inmarsat Arc exactly - 50 miles each way won't do. And gps satellites track who pings in. But let's say they dodge all that, they have a gps with pinpoint accuracy, and plop, off the side goes a dummy. Oh wait, one more thing - the dummy box has to start pinging before they leave shore, in order for the battery life of the dummy to match into the expected 30 day battery life time slot. But those pings have to be hidden - how are they going to do that? ok, they put the black box with the forged serial number in a faraday cage until they get to the location, and plop. Wait, they have to wipe off all the DNA and prints. Ok, done, plop.

There are too many loose ends and variables to the 'planted black box' theory - it's has no signs of a clean operation and there are high risks of discovery, therefore it's highly improbable.

[Winniesboy]

I particularly liked this quote from Cdr Newell of the Echo:

“In anything like this I am very conscious, I have 20 years experience of trying to find things on the seabed, it’s pretty much my day job."