Skip to comments.‘Expect To See A Band Of Soldiers’: Militia Members Arrive At Nevada Ranch
Posted on 04/10/2014 10:35:30 AM PDT by bimboeruption
The Las Vegas Review-Journal reports that two militia members from Montana and one from Utah have arrived at Cliven Bundys ranch.
We need to be the barrier between the oppressed and the tyrants, Ryan Payne of the West Mountain Rangers told the Review-Journal. Expect to see a band of soldiers.
Payne said that militias from New Hampshire, Texas and Florida are likely to join and stand with Bundy and stay at his ranch.
They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak, Payne told the Review-Journal, adding that hundreds of militia members are expected.
The Review-Journal also reports that Bundys son, Ammon Bundy, was shot with a stun gun by law enforcement officers Wednesday and that the ranchers sister, Margaret Houston, was pushed to the ground.
I pulled the tasers out of him, Cheryl Teerlink told the Review-Journal.
Lawmakers are adding their voices into the fray, criticizing the federal cattle roundup fought by Cliven Bundy who claims longstanding grazing rights on remote public rangeland about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas.
Sen. Dean Heller of Nevada said he told new U.S. Bureau of Land Management chief Neil Kornze in Washington, D.C., that law-abiding Nevadans shouldnt be penalized by an overreaching agency.
Republican Gov. Brian Sandoval pointed earlier to what he called an atmosphere of intimidation, resulting from the roundup and said he believed constitutional rights were being trampled.
Heller said he heard from local officials, residents and the Nevada Cattlemens Association and remained extremely concerned about the size of this closure and disruptions with access to roads, water and electrical infrastructure.
The federal government has shut down a scenic but windswept area about half the size of the state of Delaware to round up about 900 cattle it says are trespassing.
BLM and National Park Service officials didnt immediately respond Wednesday to criticisms of the roundup that started Saturday and prompted the closure of the 1,200-square-mile area through May 12.
Its seen by some as the latest battle over state and federal land rights in a state with deep roots in those disputes, including the Sagebrush Rebellion of the 1970s and 80s. Nevada, where various federal agencies manage or control more than 80 percent of the land, is among several Western states where ranchers have challenged federal land ownership.
The current showdown pits Bundys claims of ancestral rights to graze his cows on open range against federal claims that the cattle are trespassing on arid and fragile habitat of the endangered desert tortoise. Bundy has said he owns about 500 branded cattle on the range and claims the other 400 targeted for roundup are his, too.
BLM and Park Service officials see threats in Bundys promise to do whatever it takes to protect his property and in his characterization that the dispute constitutes a range war.
U.S. Rep. Steven Horsford, D-Las Vegas, noted that BLM officials were enforcing federal court orders that Bundy remove his animals. The legal battle has been waged for decades.
Kornze, the new BLM chief, is familiar with the area. Hes a natural resource manager who grew up in Elko, Nev., and served previously as a senior adviser to Senate Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid.
Reid aide Kristen Orthman said her boss hopes the trespassing cattle are rounded up safely so the issue can be resolved.
Sandoval, a former state attorney general and federal district court judge, weighed in late Tuesday after several days of media coverage about blocked roads and armed federal agents fanning out around Bundys ranch while contractors using helicopters and vehicles herd cows into portable pens in rugged and remote areas.
No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation which currently exists nor the limitation of constitutional rights that are sacred to all Nevadans, the governor said in a statement.
Sandoval said he was most offended that armed federal officials have tried to corral people protesting the roundup into a fenced-in First Amendment area south of the resort city of Mesquite.
The site tramples upon Nevadans fundamental rights under the U.S. Constitution and should be dismantled, Sandoval said.
BLM spokeswoman Kirsten Cannon and Park Service spokeswoman Christie Vanover have told reporters during daily conference calls that free-speech areas were established so agents could ensure the safety of contractors, protesters, the rancher and his supporters.
The dispute between Bundy and the federal government dates to 1993, when land managers cited concern for the federally protected tortoise and capped his herd at 150 animals on a 250-square-mile rangeland allotment. Officials later revoked Bundys grazing rights completely.
Cannon said Bundy racked up more than $1.1 million in unpaid grazing fees over the years while disregarding several court orders to remove his animals.
Bundy estimates the unpaid fees total about $300,000. He notes that his Mormon familys 19th century melon farm and ranch operation in surrounding areas predates creation of the BLM in 1946.
Since the cattle roundup began Saturday, there has been one arrest.
Bundys son, Dave Bundy, 37, was taken into custody Sunday as he watched the roundup from State Route 170. He was released Monday with bruises on his face and a citation accusing him of refusing to disperse and resisting arrest.
A court date has not been set.
His mother, Carol Bundy, alleged that her son was roughed up by BLM police.
Meanwhile, federal officials say 277 cows have been collected. Cannon said state veterinarian and brand identification officials will determine what becomes of the impounded cattle.
I understand your analogy and would ask, if that were to happen, what are the chances that you or I or anybody, could get 150 agents to come to my ‘rescue’.
My point being, wth do they need ALL those agents for?
Is there nobody involved who can employ some common sense and basic decency to resolve this?
The free speech zone is just the icing on the cake. How that doesn’t enrage others is a mystery to me.
Thanks for your succinct posts on this matter.
I agree with you, Jeff, which isn't unusual at all.
The federal Taylor Grazing Act was passed in 1934, and required grazing contracts and the payment of grazing fees for use of federally owned land. In 1934, the first year it was required, the Bundy family entered into a grazing contract and paid grazing fees for the old Bunkerville allotment. This is inconsistent with a claim that a great-grandfather purchased permanent grazing rights to the Bunkerville allotment in the 1880s.
The Taylor Grazing Act contracts had ten-year terms.
The first contract expired in 1943, and subsequent contracts expired in 1953, 1963, 1973, 1983, and 1993. The Bundy family entered into each new contract and paid the grazing fee.
In 1993, the BLM changed the terms of the new grazing contract it offered Cliven Bundy. That's when he quit paying grazing fees. As long as the family agreed with the terms, they paid the grazing fee.
Thank you. I’ve sent that photo to Walgreen’s and will hang it in my home office.
250 Square Miles ==160,000 acres. With only 150 cows, that is OVER 1000 acres per cow. That allotment is ludicrous.
Their reduction numbers at the Federal level create an instant bankruptcy for any farmer/rancher.
People who never have ranched are not qualified to make such allotments.
This is also driven by the Enviro greenies who want to remove all of everything from over 50% of the land mas of the USA.
Gardner, which he cited, says Pollard’s Lessee does not apply to Nevada and limits Pollard’s Lessee to states that were sovereign before becoming states.
Gardner, which he cited, says Pollard’s Lessee does not apply to Nevada and limits Pollard’s Lessee to states that were sovereign before becoming states.
NRS 321.596 Legislative findings. The Legislature finds that:
1. The State of Nevada has a strong moral claim upon the public land retained by the Federal Government within Nevadas borders because:
(a) On October 31, 1864, the Territory of Nevada was admitted to statehood on the condition that it forever disclaim all right and title to unappropriated public land within its boundaries;
(b) From 1850 to 1894, newly admitted states received 2 sections of each township for the benefit of common schools, which in Nevada amounted to 3.9 million acres;
(c) In 1880 Nevada agreed to exchange its 3.9-million-acre school grant for 2 million acres of its own selection from public land in Nevada held by the Federal Government;
(d) At the time the exchange was deemed necessary because of an immediate need for public school revenues and because the majority of the original federal land grant for common schools remained unsurveyed and unsold;
(e) Unlike certain other states, such as New Mexico, Nevada received no land grants from the Federal Government when Nevada was a territory;
(f) Nevada received no land grants for insane asylums, schools of mines, schools for the blind and deaf and dumb, normal schools, miners hospitals or a governors residence as did states such as New Mexico; and
(g) Nevada thus received the least amount of land, 2,572,478 acres, and the smallest percentage of its total area, 3.9 percent, of the land grant states in the Far West admitted after 1864, while states of comparable location and soil, namely Arizona, New Mexico and Utah, received approximately 11 percent of their total area in federal land grants.
2. The State of Nevada has a legal claim to the public land retained by the Federal Government within Nevadas borders because:
(a) In the case of the State of Alabama, a renunciation of any claim to unappropriated lands similar to that contained in the ordinance adopted by the Nevada constitutional convention was held by the Supreme Court of the United States to be void and inoperative because it denied to Alabama an equal footing with the original states in Pollard v. Hagan, 44 U.S. (3 How.) 212 (1845);
(b) The State of Texas, when admitted to the Union in 1845, retained ownership of all unappropriated land within its borders, setting a further precedent which inured to the benefit of all states admitted later on an equal footing; and
(c) The Northwest Ordinance of 1787, adopted into the Constitution of the United States by the reference of Article VI to prior engagements of the Confederation, first proclaimed the equal footing doctrine, and the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, by which the territory including Nevada was acquired from Mexico and which is the supreme law of the land by virtue of Article VI, affirms it expressly as to the new states to be organized therein.
3. The exercise of broader control by the State of Nevada over the public lands within its borders would be of great public benefit because:
(a) Federal holdings in the State of Nevada constitute 86.7 percent of the area of the State, and in Esmeralda, Lincoln, Mineral, Nye and White Pine counties the Federal Government controls from 97 to 99 percent of the land;
(b) Federal jurisdiction over the public domain is shared among 17 federal agencies or departments which adds to problems of proper management of land and disrupts the normal relationship between a state, its residents and its property;
(c) None of the federal lands in Nevada are taxable and Federal Government activities are extensive and create a tax burden for the private property owners of Nevada who must meet the needs of children of Federal Government employees, as well as provide other public services;
(d) Under general land laws only 2.1 percent of federal lands in Nevada have moved from federal control to private ownership;
(e) Federal administration of the retained public lands, which are vital to the livestock and mining industries of the State and essential to meet the recreational and other various uses of its citizens, has been of uneven quality and sometimes arbitrary and capricious; and
(f) Federal administration of the retained public lands has not been consistent with the public interest of the people of Nevada because the Federal Government has used those lands for armament and nuclear testing thereby rendering many parts of the land unusable and unsuited for other uses and endangering the public health and welfare.
4. The intent of the framers of the Constitution of the United States was to guarantee to each of the states sovereignty over all matters within its boundaries except for those powers specifically granted to the United States as agent of the states.
5. The attempted imposition upon the State of Nevada by the Congress of the United States of a requirement in the enabling act that Nevada disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying within said territory, as a condition precedent to acceptance of Nevada into the Union, was an act beyond the power of the Congress of the United States and is thus void.
6. The purported right of ownership and control of the public lands within the State of Nevada by the United States is without foundation and violates the clear intent of the Constitution of the United States.
7. The exercise of such dominion and control of the public lands within the State of Nevada by the United States works a severe, continuous and debilitating hardship upon the people of the State of Nevada.
* * * * * Some of this is an equitable argument. Some of this was rejected by Gardner, and I need to Shepardize Gardner to see if the USSC passed on it on appeal. Some of this has never been raised before a court, to my knowledge.
Let me know what you find out about Gardner, will you? I've read a few comments on other sites that PPL Montana, LLC v. Montana (SCOTUS) is pertinent to this issue because it was brought under the Equal Footing Doctrine, but it doesn't appear relevant to me. IANAL though.
Pull the other one.
John Stossel informs us that the BLM itself has ignored court orders in this matter.
Of course, the difference is that Cliven Bundy doesn't have hundreds of gunthugs dressed in Magic Costumes, nor does he have a bottomless checkbook funded by money stolen from the taxpeasants at gunpoint.
Someone else posted that the tortoises actually feed on the cowpoop, which makes sense to me.
What frightens me the most is the fact that not one FLEO has said "What we are doing is morally wrong. I will not follow unlawful orders." Enforcing a "free speech pen" is violating the Constitution these goons swore an oath to defend from Enemies Foreign And Domestic.
>> Is BLM borrowing an army from homeland security...
Yeah I was wondering about that. The BLM has snipers? Really?
Is that a Concentration Camping Site?
That day may be closer than you think—this isn’t going to end peacefully by any means. Feds don’t have the man power to stop what they will start. Clark County is the tip of the iceberg with gov’t over-reach.
Keep these activists/militia’s in your prayers!
Please, if you have information about how the BLM has ignored court orders in this case, share your sources so that we can discuss that as well.
Excellent point. The easiest way to win a lawsuit is simply to outspend them, and with average Americans that isn't hard at all. At best, the average guy would have a couple thousand he could fight with.
I am more focused than ever on the fact that Bundy made improvements to the property and no one reimbursed him or even thought to.
Are they taking advice from Janet Reno?
Granted, but what did the documents regarding statehood say about the fed’s land ownership? Wasn’t there some sort of provision where the feds were supposed to give more of the land to the state?
I just can’t remember exactly, but I thought I read something to that effect, and that the feds had never fulfilled their part of that agreement.
Apparently Nevada had to forever relinquish the gov’t land to the Feds.
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