Skip to comments.How to hit Mozilla Financially and still keep their browser(Caveat)
Posted on 04/08/2014 3:32:04 PM PDT by Vendome
So I'm watching this whole "Firefox" uninstall effort going on, with some amusement.
Y'all should understand that Google and Firefox have ways of winning even if you uninstall Firefox.
I'll cover that in the body of my thread below
In the last 6 years that has amounted to some 85% plus of the Mozilla's revenue.
2nd Mozilla gets paid for licensing from various other broweser using the Mozilla code.
3rd It seems Mozilla was trying to become independent from Google and this was going to happen very soon.
Not good for Google.
Even though they pay Mozilla for what amounts to about 85% of revenues, Google gains even more in Ad revenue from the whole arrangement.
Mozilla wanted very much to be a competitor but, not dependent on "ONE" source of revenue for their existence.
I can't tell you how many companies have found themselves with one customer, who pays for the lions share of their existence and that Patron then comes in and tells the "Satellite" how "It's Uh Gonna Be".
Mozilla very much needs to become independent of Google or it will simply be sucked in and never, ever become a real player, with Google as the fascistic dictator of how it views the world and the Internet.
Now, Mozilla was going to start serving up Ads on its web browser to break free from Google.
What was Google going to do about that?
Well, they couldn't very well have an uppity Satellite thinking for itself.
So, like all the world's past fascists they get rid of the thinkers, the organizers, etc.
So Eick took a bullet to the head and the rest of the Mozilla organization stays on as part of the concentration camp workers, to do whatever Google dictates.
Google is the real problem here. Not the board of Mozilla.
Google hires global thinkers, homogenistic organizers who believe we are all the same.
No borders, no unique cultures and they hire their share of gays, who also want to push their agenda.
Google lets them run with the gay agenda, they same way they let other groups run with the anti-gun agenda.
They serve purposes.
In the instance of Eick(Not really) erh, the board of Mozilla, they were made aware of certain realities and essentially woke up with the bloodied head of a horse in their bed.
If you want to effect change you are going to have to accept some things to get away from Google ultimately.
That's going to mean Ads.
You are not hurting Google by going to another browser. Most of the other browsers have similar financial arrangements as Mozilla had with Google and will be only too happy for you take them on as a browser.
It means real money for them and that money is based on how many users the browser company has, potential users of Google for default search engine, the percentage of the total users who end up using Google for search and that browsers licensing.
Mozilla is being made to be the scapegoat and everyone is being suckered.
Start using any alternative search engine as your default choice.
I use IXQuick or Startpage.
When I do use Google, I never click on their stupid ads.
I always use IxQuick for search to get to companies I want to do business with and the company doesn't pay a thing to Google for it.
That's a quick overview and I'm sure there will some other Freepers who will elaborate.
I can't do a whitepaper like I did with telecom history back in March 2013
Good luck and feel free to continue using Firefox.
Stop using Google for everything.
Sorry, not buying it.
I would love to hear Al Sharptons views on this matter,I am pretty sure he would call it “Mozzerella Fox”.
Yes, DO stop using Google also.
Time for me to switch from gmail !
Oh, and, .... the Googles, they are evil!
It's pretty much impossible to get away from any left wing companies because they have search and browsers locked up!
Seems like every technology platform is infected with some level of the FR “50 shades of gay” disease.
Just like retailing. As the boycotts mount, eventually your choice is to become Amish.
Did Googles $1 Billion Force Mozilla to Dump Brendan Eich?
or maybe it was OKCupid, the CEO of which donated to some anti-gay thing, just as Google sent money in support of Prop 8:
o, was evisceration of Brendan Eich a PR stunt
nothing but a PR stunt?
MOZILLA** Interesting posting from an Insider
I could see myself making candles....
“When I do use Google, I never click on their stupid ads.”
I never did. Well, once or twice. And then I quickly discovered there’s a reason most of those businesses are being forced to advertise with google: it’s because they don’t show up in the first few pages of bona fide google search results because their competitors are beating the pants off of them in terms of price, service, convenience, quality, you name it. So, I found it was pointless to ever click a google ad.
I also found it was pointless to actually pay google to advertise my business. I don’t think I ever got a single paying customer that way. Plus google ads are big time rigged against the little guys. It’s really a complete waste of money.
You wannuh duh financials as well as numerous articles to back up my assertion?
This week I found a book in the local library on building medieval era siege machines...
you don’t have to boycott everyone who disagrees with you. Focus on mozilla since they actually did something to silence one of us.
Now, I don’t have to post any articles to back up my observation.
Google has nothing to do with it. My feelings towards GOOG are totally independent of the Mozilla thing.
"Fascistic dictator?" C'mon. Let's not go all hyperbolic here.
Tangentially related, I enjoyed this Atlantic piece The Culture of Shut Up
We do live in interesting times.
Ghostery and a ton of other add blockers keep them from getting your info if you will. I am sure Freepers will post the others...
You can customize Ghostery by site so that you can get the ads, or other things, you want where you want and not anywhere else.
Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)
If people really want to hit back at google and Mozilla, simply use all of their free stuff to the max and don’t ever let them make a penny of revenue off of you. It’s the same philosophy I use for all of my FREE banking and FREE credit card service! I use the services and I never pay a dime in fees or interest.
For gmail, use an email client like Thunderbird and you’ll never see an ad.
For browsing, use Firefox with Adblock Plus with a couple of filter sets, DoNotTrackMe, CookieCuller & BetterPrivacy. That’ll assure you never even see most of the ads. As for the rest, simply never click on any of them.
So starve the beast while eating its lunch!
“The bottom line is, you dont beat an idea by beating a person. You beat an idea by beating an idea.”
Thnx for reminding me.
I had been meaning to install Flashfox and put an end to all those abysmal Ads and Newswers taking over my browsing pleasure.
Installed and optioned for “Ask me”
No borders, no unique cultures and they hire their share of gays, who also want to push their agenda.
My employer's IT office hired one of the most flamboyant gays I've ever encountered - and he hates all things Google with a lavender passion. Go figure, right?
I switched to “pale moon’ on the advice a freeper posted...
I do not think I will ever go back to firefox...
I like it. I don’t know if the details apply in this circumstance, but they easily could. This is the kind of thing that goes on in big business all the time, including in SV. And Google isn’t nice. So yeah, good theory.
Yes, have been using it quite a while. Generally pretty good.
Access it with https://www.duckduckgo.com (https:) and get the benefits of a secure shell search engine. It has really reduced my DNS poisoning episodes.
I also use ixquick.com , startpage.com and gibiru.com
I have had times when by changing secure shell search engines and accessing a website that I am blocked from, through the search engine result page, it went right through.
It is a wild and wooly time here on the web today.
Just switched to PaleMoon today, and I’m very pleased with the results. My entire profile transferred over flawlessly.
This is a very nice winnable battle for freedom lovers if we commit to keeping the heat on Mozilla - an already wounded foe. Do not lose focus. This will be a very powerful statement if conservatives can unite behind this cause.
not sure but the search engine stuff i think is correct. I try to use ixquick as well but then when you do maps its gets lame.
The act of intolerance and bigotry was taken by Mozilla. Shifting blame to Google is irrational no matter how large or small their influence might have been.
If someone wants to take action to show their disagreement, leaving Mozilla and minimizing future use of Google seems like the logical reaction.
I switched to Pale Moon today and all Firefox Bookmarks and settings tranfered easily, including most all add ons. It’s working great so far and functions exactly like Firefox.
Very easy to download Pale Moon and give it a try.
What’s kewel about Palemoon is it’s essentially Firefox.
The dude has the license to create his own browser under Mozilla’s MPH.
I can’t see getting completely away from Google.
Neck, my speil checker always “caps” the first letter in Google
We can minimize them and one day, a long time from now they will be hit with Monopoly suits by gubmint.
I like palemoon.
Except for pictures I desperately “need” I just try not to use Google anymore.
‘Sides, dem bass turds is selling me infawmation and browsing history everytime I turn around.
The are intrusive, obtrusive and abusive.
Gotta kill em eventually and get em broke up like Ma Bell in 1984 under the MFJ.
Most gays are right headed and not given to idiotic bouts of angry outbursts .
They just wanna be in the world like the rest of us
I have few angry gay friends.
The rest want nothing to do with the lobby.
I use Ixquick too, it`s my home page, but I also don`t use Mozilla!
You are not hurting Google by going to another browser.
I have switched to Opera, as per a poster’s recommendation here. Not at all tech savvy, so please bear with me while I ask what may seem like some dumb questions.
Opera let me choose a default browser from a menu, but DuckDuckGo, the one I have been using, was not among the choices. Okay, I can deal with that by putting Duck on my “Speed Dial” page, as Opera calls it, and I pulled it to my tool bar.
Here is my big question. How in the heck do I disconnect from Google altogether? There it sits on my Speed Dial page and I certainly did not put it there. I cannot find any way to remove it, and going to Opera’s help pages did not tell me.
So that means Google is following me around whether I use it or not, right? Or am I wrong about that?
Thanks in advance for your help?
4. Some of the campaign to dump Eich came from inside the Firefox effort.
3. There are also plans to incorporate adware in the Firefox browser.
2. Dumping Firefox sends the message. Market share is everything for such a browser and means big bucks, social influence, political influence, etc.
1. Firefox is already commonly known as the choice of creepy weirdos, who do creepy weirdo things with stinky parts. One can get creepy weirdo cooties from a creepy weirdo browser.
How’d you know about my creepy, weirdo, stinky thing.
Just hold the cursor over the Google icon on your Opera speed dial page and a small X should appear in the lower right corner.
Google is not in my speed dial and I think I eliminated most all the speed dial selections that were pre-loaded with Opera.
One-question test from common knowledge.
1. Are you using Firefox? ;-)
Google is the issue.
You can integrate other search engines into your browser
Google, Duck Duck, IxQuick, etc are Search Engines.
Opera, Firefox, internet explorer ....are browsers
Google uses persistent cookies and LSO’s to track your every movement on the Internet.
Eric, Larry, and Sergei probably know more about us than the NSA does...
My bad. I see that you are talking about the Google search bar at the top of the speed dial page and not one of the speed dial icons. It looks like you can select DuckDuckGo from the drop down search bar menu. I think I’ll make that change.
Humor, yes, and nothing personal intended. That’s irony. Pecuniary pursuits are involved, yes. But so are political speech, psych., etc. As for the various boycotts, those are already gaining momentum.
Many have been fired from jobs and pushed out of schools in recent decades for refusing to support or engage in social pathologies. Rights of Americans have been violated in many ways. Those who did the backstabbing had no consideration for consequences of their deeds (psychopathy).
People should try it themselves, but personally I lasted 1/2 hour with DuckDuckGo.
Bing results are virtually identical to Google, and I prefer the interface.
I don’t know quite what to make of that last part, but as long as you’re laughing about it, it must be okay!
Sorry for the confusion .. only meant that wherever it is we're headed after this life prolly has an entirely different Operating System d:^)