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Rove to Jeb Bush: Maybe tone it down with the “illegal immigration is an ‘act of love’” bit
Hotair ^ | 04/08/2014 | AllahPundit

Posted on 04/08/2014 3:17:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The clip comes from Politico but the translation comes from Mark Krikorian:

Karl Rove to Jeb Bush: Wait til _after_ the election to say what you really think http://t.co/Dk3JXnjhmj

— Mark Krikorian (@MarkSKrikorian) April 8, 2014

The weirdest thing to me about Jeb’s “act of love” comment is that, as recently as last year, he was positioning himself as some sort of hardliner on the citizenship issue. Remember? No citizenship for illegals, he said; permanent residency is fine but to grant them full citizen privileges would offend the rule of law. Fast-forward a year and now lawbreaking is an act of love, something a compassionate nation surely wouldn’t punish with perpetual second-class status. I don’t know how he reconciles that.

Maybe it’s as simple as him reacting to Rubio’s political position in both cases. A year ago, Rubio was getting hammered by the right for backing the Gang of Eight bill. Jeb may have concluded that there was room to his right in the 2016 primaries by running as a “no citizenship” candidate. A year later, Rubio’s all but abandoned the Gang of Eight bill as being too weak and has tacked back to the right via foreign policy and ObamaCare. Change of plans for Jeb, then: Now there’s room to Rubio’s left in the field. That’s where “act of love” came from, I guess, as a signal to the centrists — especially rich, business-minded, amnesty-supporting centrists who are trying to settle on a champion — that Bush would stand up to the righty candidates who’ll be left fighting over the anti-amnesty vote. But even so, “act of love” is such an odd and needlessly provocative way of putting things. I think Rove’s consternation here is legit. He wants a pro-amnesty candidate but he doesn’t want one who’s going to dare conservatives to knock him down the way Perry unwittingly did with his remark in 2011 about in-state tuition for illegals being a simple matter of “having a heart.” Like Krikorian said yesterday, if border-hopping is an act of love, border enforcement is necessarily a form of hate. Is that the message that’s going to win this guy the Republican nomination?

Could be that Mickey Kaus is right that this is just a clever ploy by Jeb to help his protege Rubio. The squishier Bush gets on amnesty, the easier it is for Rubio to attack him as a RINO, which helps Rubio rebuild conservative cred. Or maybe Jeb secretly agrees with me and WaPo that the entire Republican field reeks on immigration and therefore he might as well start pandering to the donor class and to Latino voters now. After all, who’s going to attack him harshly for the “act of love” comment? Cruz? Jeb doesn’t really need to worry about Cruz; by the time the race is down to the two of them, Bushworld will be tearing Cruz limb from limb with ads about how he’s a radical and borderline anarchist. Jeb needs to win the center first and realistically no centrist candidate is going to go to the mat on the “act of love” soundbite for fear of alienating Latinos. The question is, is that sort of rhetoric so squishy that even centrist voters will start looking at each other sideways over it? That’s what Rove’s worried about, I think.

And yeah, I do think he’ll run. Steve Hayes is right: A guy who’s already thinking about his soundbites being caught on tape is a guy who’s thinking very seriously of jumping in.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: florida; illegals; immigration; jebbush; karlrove; politico; rememberterri
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1 posted on 04/08/2014 3:17:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Love of Free Money and Benefits from stupid Americans....


2 posted on 04/08/2014 3:19:30 PM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period. PALIN/CRUZ 2016)
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To: SeekAndFind
MEMO TO JEB BUSH:  Instead of getting that degree in Latin American affairs, might have been wise to get a degree in AMERICAN HISTORY!  Since you're obviously so fond of Latin America, perhaps there's an office waiting for you down there? Oh wait, THEY have very rigid RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS down there. never mind

WASHINGTON ON IMMIGRATION

"The policy or advantage of immigration taking place in a body (I mean the settling of them in a body) may be much questioned; for, by so doing, they retain the language, habits, and principles (good or bad) which they bring with them.  Whereas by an intermixture with our people, they, or their descendants, get assimilated to our customs, measures, laws; in a word, soon become one people." George Washington in a letter to John Adams

JEFFERSON ON IMMIGRATION

"Every species of government has its specific principles. Ours perhaps are more peculiar than those of any other in the universe. It is a composition of the freest principles of the English constitution, with others derived from natural right and natural reason. To these nothing can be more opposed than the maxims of absolute monarchies. Yet, from such, we are to expect the greatest number of emigrants. They will bring with them the principles of the governments they leave, imbibed in their early youth; or, if able to throw them off, it will be in exchange for an unbounded licentiousness, passing, as is usual, from one extreme to another. It would be a miracle were they to stop precisely at the point of temperate liberty. These principles, with their language, they will transmit to their children. In proportion to their numbers, they will share with us the legislation. They will infuse into it their spirit, warp and bias its direction, and render it a heterogeneous, incoherent, distracted mass." That xenophobic radical, Thomas Jefferson

Mr. Jefferson's concerns go right to the heart of the questions of uncontrolled immigration and, in Obozo's case,  natural born citizenship, don't they?

3 posted on 04/08/2014 3:20:25 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is ONLY thing that this “act of love” BS is, and that is to firmly establish his GOPe bona fides and get the establishment critters to rally around his despicable persona.

STAY OUT OF THE BUSHES!!


4 posted on 04/08/2014 3:21:42 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: SeekAndFind

Nomo homo promo.


5 posted on 04/08/2014 3:21:49 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: SeekAndFind

NO MORE BUSHES


6 posted on 04/08/2014 3:22:22 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: SeekAndFind

donor class aka the cheap labor class.


7 posted on 04/08/2014 3:27:33 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Sometime in 2017.. President Jeb Bush's immigration reform easily passes with bipartisan support.

"He told voters that he wouldn't do this. The dummies believed him!"

8 posted on 04/08/2014 3:28:56 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Rove to Bush, "Don't show how you really feel."

With apologies to Melissa Manchester:
Don't cry out loud
Just keep it inside, learn how to hide your feelings
Fly high and proud
And if you should fall, remember you almost had it all

9 posted on 04/08/2014 3:30:24 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: SeekAndFind

“Ix-nay on the ove-lay. You’re giving away our strategy.”


10 posted on 04/08/2014 3:30:39 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: SeekAndFind

JEBushatgmail.com
“Cool it with the `love offering’ stuff, Jeb-O. That’s ... crazy talk.” KR


11 posted on 04/08/2014 3:36:59 PM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: SeekAndFind

People are ignoring the obvious. Jeb is an idiot who runs his mouth.

He has some delusion that immigration wont be an issue or that he can ban all GOP contenders from discussing it.

Which would allow a Donald Trump type candidate runs third party on immigration the GOP definitely loses with a RINO.


12 posted on 04/08/2014 3:49:21 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

All I needed to know about Jeb I learned when he left Terri Schiavo to die.


13 posted on 04/08/2014 3:51:43 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I will not vote for a Bush or Cristie, I’ve had it with them.


14 posted on 04/08/2014 3:56:52 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Somebody suggested that Jeb has a fetish for Mexican girls, so he is pitching to teenage boys that if he opens the borders, lots of hot, teenage Mexican girls will come across the border, so that even the geekiest among them will get dates.


15 posted on 04/08/2014 3:59:18 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

Effe both porky pig Rove and the Bushies.


16 posted on 04/08/2014 4:08:56 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: SeekAndFind

ME to Rovio..... STFU


17 posted on 04/08/2014 4:15:54 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: SeekAndFind

Rove feels the same way as Bush. He just realizes that he has to dupe the American public instead of being totally honest about his feelings.


18 posted on 04/08/2014 4:15:57 PM PDT by Revel
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s the guy to listen to Jeb, he has what record? Maybe a 2% win ratio?


19 posted on 04/08/2014 4:18:58 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: House Atreides

Read my lips...NO NEW BUSHES!


20 posted on 04/08/2014 4:21:00 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rove: Jeb, will you tone it down on what we really think. We need conservatives to vote for us, but if you keep flapping your gums like this we’ll never get you into the POTUS spot! Just act conservative! Inside words are for us. Outside words are for them.


21 posted on 04/08/2014 4:22:54 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hate the idea of Jeb Bush running. But now I am thinking it is maybe okay. No Republican can win in 2016. Let the left wing of the party lose again.


22 posted on 04/08/2014 4:23:20 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SeekAndFind

Jebba-the-Bush
No Thanks!


23 posted on 04/08/2014 4:32:14 PM PDT by Lake Living
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To: SeekAndFind

Hell will freeze over before I vote for another Bush !


24 posted on 04/08/2014 4:37:55 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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To: SeekAndFind
If Jeb runs he's likely to lose.
Should he run and win his endorsement of the "Act of Love" will doom his party perhaps beyond salvaging.
25 posted on 04/08/2014 4:38:52 PM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: Mr. K

I don’t agree with Karl Rove much but this time he’s right. Jeb Bush blew it big time with this act of love junk. How about drug dealers selling dope as an “act of Love” or terrorists setting bombs? Jeb will never be president—that’s why the Democrats and Media will do all in their power to get the Vichy Republicans to select him.


26 posted on 04/08/2014 4:52:09 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Don’t do it if it’s not on my white board, Jeb”.


27 posted on 04/08/2014 4:53:54 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bush sucks! All you Bushbots suck too.


28 posted on 04/08/2014 5:00:13 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: F15Eagle

Yeah yall say that now but back in 2000 and 2004 just about everyone here was all in for GW Bush.


29 posted on 04/08/2014 5:03:50 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: SeekAndFind

it is 2014 not 1914

Rove people make their choices 12 months before elections, not 2 weeks. (hint it is not your opinion that has been shown as winners)


30 posted on 04/08/2014 5:10:03 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Every time I see that woman, I think, "What is Perry Farrell doing with Nancy Pelosi?" Then I remember the lyrics to that Jane's Addiction song... and it makes sense:

I've been caught stealing;
once when I was 5...
I enjoy stealing.
It's just as simple as that.
Well, it's just a simple fact.
When I want something,
and I don't want to pay for it.

31 posted on 04/08/2014 5:14:57 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bush v Clinton = no vote for POTUS.


32 posted on 04/08/2014 5:19:18 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: SeekAndFind
In other words: Tone it down for the dummies out who still buy into the crap that you are the "Salvation of the Nation from the Magic Negro`s creations".
33 posted on 04/08/2014 6:08:29 PM PDT by nomad
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To: SeekAndFind

Rove and Jeb have become communists. Anything in favor of the instinct of self protection is destroyed by these fanatic globalist traitors.


34 posted on 04/08/2014 8:06:22 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: jpsb

Well, who knew he was an amnesty-pusher? I didn’t, anyways.


35 posted on 04/08/2014 9:07:47 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: SeekAndFind

great advice from the world’s greatest consultant :

put the toothpaste back in the tube.

what a dope.


36 posted on 04/09/2014 12:08:05 AM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“tone it down...”

Too late. That hemorrhoid is already sticking out, Karl...


37 posted on 04/09/2014 5:21:01 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Hey Jeb, after the election we will have more flexibility.”


38 posted on 04/09/2014 6:20:22 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: don-o

“All I needed to know about Jeb I learned when he left Terri Schiavo to die”

______________________________________________

You’re exactly right. That’s how I feel, too. He certainly revealed himself then.


39 posted on 04/09/2014 8:10:11 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (R.I.P., James Helmuth, my nephew who passed away at ten years old, from cancer, on March 23.)
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To: nickcarraway

“No Republican can win in 2016. Let the left wing of the party lose again.”

_____________________________________

I understand the sentiment—except for the consequences of Supreme Court nominations.


40 posted on 04/09/2014 8:12:41 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (R.I.P., James Helmuth, my nephew who passed away at ten years old, from cancer, on March 23.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well your honor, I robbed the bank out of an act of love.


41 posted on 04/09/2014 8:16:27 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: SeekAndFind

MAYBE? I wouldn’t vote for Bush now if he was ‘The Last Man Standing’!!!!


42 posted on 04/09/2014 8:26:37 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: SeekAndFind

If Karl Rove believed Jeb Bush’s ‘’heartbreaking’’ comment was a gaffe that would hurt Jeb’s political fortunes, the last thing he would have done is discuss it in public, as he did, thereby extending the gaffe’s notoriety and shelf-life.

Instead, Karl Rove would have phoned Jeb and advised him how to ‘’make lemonade out of his lemon’’ in future speeches.

Karl Rove is a political operative who always has a project going. Currently, his project is to position Jeb Bush as the leading and eventually sole RINO candidate — like Mitt Romney was in 2012 — in the 2016 Republican presidential primaries, while the Conservative candidates proliferate and divide the Conservative vote — like they did in 2012.

At the moment, Karl Rove is obsessed with selling Jeb Bush to his big-money corporate-donor friends so that they will start to fill Jeb’s coffers, thereby blocking out other, poorer, potential RINO presidential aspirants.

And the best way for Karl Rove to do that is to have Jeb Bush publicly state in an awkward, newsworthy way, that he strongly agrees with America’s corporate interests in supporting amnesty for illegal immigrants, after which Karl Rove himself can go on TV and even more publicly promote Jeb Bush as the candidate of amnesty, even though Jeb might not have worded his support as eloquently as possible.

If Karl Rove’s plans succeed, Jeb Bush will be the RINO candidate in 2016, who can only be beaten by Conservative interests if Conservatives choose their own sole Conservative opponent to oppose him.

The best Conservative candidate would be the one who can raise the most money from Conservatives, who would be the one with Sarah Palin’s endorsement and promise of fund-raising help — Ted Cruz. But will the Rand Pauls, Rick Santorums and Rick Perrys withdraw from the race, or will their egos compel them to spend the entire primary season beating up on Ted Cruz and/or each other so that Jeb Bush will have clear sailing to the nomination, like Mitt Romney had in 2012? The latter scenario seems the most plausible.

The only hope for Conservatives in 2016 is that Ted Cruz will be smart enough to overcome his combined Conservative opposition and also Jeb Bush in the primaries. Which is not unreasonable since he’s head and shoulders above everyone else in intelligence, in politics and out.


43 posted on 04/09/2014 8:31:12 AM PDT by Bluestocking
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To: don-o
All I needed to know about Jeb I learned when he left Terri Schiavo to die.

Absolutely true! Jeb Bush showed his true colors as a gutless unprincipled coward, when he allowed the state-district court execution of Terri Schiavo to proceed. I believe that Terri Schiavo will be the last face that Jeb Bush sees as he is cast into the Lake of Fire.

44 posted on 04/09/2014 8:40:33 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: SeekAndFind
Two persons that make me want to hurl. Karl Rove and Jeb Bush. Rove thinks he is the anointed voice of the GOP. Jeb simply thinks it's his turn because Poppy and brother got theirs. More Bush Globalist New World Order and bigger federal government? None for me. The last Bush power grab created a monster too follow him that is bent on destroying our nation. The first Bush power grab began the undoing of all the Reagan years gains.

As of now Cruz, Lee and Gohmert, are the persons who are politically close to what I believe in. Da Bush and Rove are as repulsive to me as Obama and McCain. Rand Paul was one who had promise before the GOP-E got to him. Now he reminds me of a John McCain/Bob Dole hybrid. Won that seat and by golly you'll do the DEMs work like McCain now to keep it huh Rand?

45 posted on 04/09/2014 9:15:58 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: F15Eagle

I tried to warn people about Bush back in 2000, oh well, I still wish Steve Forbes had won. Even more I wish H.W. had won in 92. To this day I can’t believe he lost to Bill. “Read my lips” really did him in.


46 posted on 04/09/2014 10:52:32 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: jpsb

Perot was certainly a big factor, and that was the original “Clintonian plurality” win. The great part for the Dems that year was that Ross provided his own campaign funding, it didn’t cost them a dime.

In races like McAwful won last year, the Dems have to fund two campaigns, their own and the libertarian.


47 posted on 04/09/2014 10:56:25 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: jpsb

I sat out in 1988 because I was not going to vote for “Read My Lips”. I voted for W because I despised Gore so much. I sat out 2004 because I couldn’t vote for W again.

Now, everytime I’ve ever said anything bad about Bush on here, I’ve been attacked. I can’t stand any of them. They’re all elitists frauds.


48 posted on 04/09/2014 5:01:11 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: proud American in Canada

Roberts didn’t turn out to be such a great pick.


49 posted on 04/09/2014 5:03:11 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: jpsb

I wasn’t. I remembered W opposing Prop 187 when he didn’t have to live with the disaster that illegal immigration was inflicting on California. In the 2000 primary I heard W saying “family values don’t stop at the Rio Grande” and knew exactly what he was about. He turned out to be the law-scoffing amnesty pusher that I expected.

But you had to be careful about voicing opinions like that because those who were outspoken had a way of vanishing around here.


50 posted on 04/10/2014 12:07:54 AM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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