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High deportation figures are misleading
Los Angeles Times(believe it or not) ^ | 04/02/2014 | Brian Bennett

Posted on 04/02/2014 10:21:13 AM PDT by amnestynone

"People trying to get back are increasingly people who have roots in the U.S.," Meissner said. The administration's move to step up deportations at the border coincided with increased hiring of agents and spending on border security. In 2010, Congress approved a $600-million infusion to add border agents and new surveillance technology. There are now more than 21,000 Border Patrol agents on the border, twice the number of a decade ago. During the first two years after coming to office, Obama administration officials touted the record-setting deportation figures, hoping that strict enforcement at the border would convince Republicans to come to the negotiating table on immigration reform. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano was "crowing" about the increasing deportations, said Marshall Fitz, an immigration expert at the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank in Washington. The Homeland Security Department "was patting itself on the back for reaching these record numbers," Fitz said. "I think they thought it was important to show they were very serious about this." Sandweg, the former acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, rejected the suggestion that political objectives drove deportation policy. By handing detainees over to immigration officials for deportation, rather than processing them directly, Border Patrol agents could spend more time on patrol, he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration
The truth comes out.
1 posted on 04/02/2014 10:21:13 AM PDT by amnestynone
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To: amnestynone
Good article, but I thought this was the key passage, not the one quoted above:

But the portrait of a steadily increasing number of deportations rests on statistics that conceal almost as much as they disclose. A closer examination shows that immigrants living illegally in most of the continental U.S. are less likely to be deported today than before Obama came to office, according to immigration data.

Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.

On the other side of the ledger, the number of people deported at or near the border has gone up — primarily as a result of changing who gets counted in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency's deportation statistics.

The vast majority of those border crossers would not have been treated as formal deportations under most previous administrations. If all removals were tallied, the total sent back to Mexico each year would have been far higher under those previous administrations than it is now.


2 posted on 04/02/2014 10:30:23 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: amnestynone; Liz

well when you consider that some illegal aliens get deported 10+ times the numbers are fudged..


3 posted on 04/02/2014 10:34:23 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
well when you consider that some illegal aliens get deported 10+ times the numbers are fudged..

Hell, the way he struggles to gin up the ACA statistics, I wouldn't be surprised if some aliens were paid to keep coming in, getting deported, and come back to gin up the deportation statistics.

4 posted on 04/02/2014 10:39:25 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: amnestynone

Does anyone honestly believe a government run by a political party that decided to eliminate any reference to God or the “Creator” as part of their platform is going to tell anyone the truth ?


5 posted on 04/02/2014 10:53:30 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: amnestynone

Obama = misleading. Capisce??


6 posted on 04/02/2014 11:23:28 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Pearls Before Swine; Liz

but we only find out they were deported multiple times when they get caught after murdering an American on our roads, etc..

One illegal alien who had been deported 14 times drove drunk and killed an American here in TN a few years ago..

others are deported XXX amount of times and when they are caught someone wants to be surprised..

but meanwhile those 14 deportation occasions for just ONE illegal alien is twisted to appear that 14 illegal aliens total were deported..


7 posted on 04/02/2014 11:24:02 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: amnestynone

New deportation numbers include people turned away at the border as deported. Yes, you read that right.

Your definition of deportation (the correct one, imo) is finding someone in the country illegally and sending them back to the country from which they came.

The current definition of deportation is people found in-country illegally and sent home + people turned away at the border.

The reason the deportation numbers are now high have nothing to do with improving the finding, detaining and removing of illegals. It has everything to do with changing the definition of the word to suit Democrat political purposes.


8 posted on 04/02/2014 12:03:07 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: amnestynone

How much were the numbers inflated by illegals self-deporting because jobs were scarce in this country thanks to the Obama economy?!


9 posted on 04/02/2014 12:59:38 PM PDT by mellow velo
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To: amnestynone

Let’s not forget the illegals who have criminal convictions that they’ve released back into the community. Something like 60 odd thousand?


10 posted on 04/02/2014 1:57:04 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: amnestynone

It seems that this point escapes Bill O’Reilly. It’s obvious to most people that this regime lies about everything. Can’t trust inflation, deportation, unemployment, obamacare, etc. etc.


11 posted on 04/02/2014 2:04:26 PM PDT by wattsgnu
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To: mosesdapoet

“Does anyone honestly believe a government run by a political party that decided to eliminate any reference to God or the “Creator” as part of their platform is going to tell anyone the truth ?”
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Unfortunately, YES, some fools do believe exactly that. It is difficult to imagine that anyone can be so stupid but some actually watch MSNBC and fantasize that they are getting the truth that is being denied by Fox News. People who take MSNBC seriously will believe almost anything as long as it suits their preconceived conclusions which they have decided they WANT to believe. The rest of us are very unhappy with Fox News but at the same time realize that comparing MSNBC to Fox is like comparing cowpies (MSNBC) to French Silk pies (Fox News). Some people dearly love French Silk and some don’t care for it but that is not a big deal either way. On the other hand if you know someone who likes eating cow pies you need to get them out of your life.


12 posted on 04/03/2014 6:32:09 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: RipSawyer

Here is where I’m comming from
http://www.theusmat.com

IT’S NOT BEING USED BY THE GOPES gop elite snobs BECAUSE IT MAKES WAVES ....Any so called Republican who supports that position should be tossed out.

If you tell a democrat (and I do) what they actually did at their 2012 convention remove any reference to God in their platform they’ll call you a liar. It really bugs the hell out of me that SOME OF THESE SO CALLED CONSERVATIVE TALK SHOW HOSTS DON’T EVEN MENTION THIS PARTICULARLY WHEN THEY’RE CITING LIES PUT OUT BY THIS REGIME...or play the sound track when this happened.


13 posted on 04/03/2014 7:01:34 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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