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Finland Frets as Russia Launches Military Drills on Its Doorstep
NBC News ^ | March 31, 2014 | BY ALEXANDER SMITH, ALASTAIR JAMIESON AND ALBINA KOVALYOVA

Posted on 03/31/2014 10:48:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Jim Robinson
Russian military buildup near Ukraine:

source: https://twitter.com/Missilito/status/450676709281775616/photo/1
41 posted on 03/31/2014 1:31:45 PM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The Finns made a great little rifle starting about 1939. The 20MM Lahti is semi auto and can dump 10 rounds down range in seconds. A couple of those cross firing a pass or choke point can make an advance really expensive from a half mile away. The round was good for 1”of steel making it hard to hide and I expect the Russians well-remember how expensive their last trip to Finland was. I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume the Fins have stuff at least that good now?


42 posted on 03/31/2014 1:35:25 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Jim Robinson

What’s the gun control status of Finland? Have they disarmed their people? If not, I wouldn’t fret, if so...


43 posted on 03/31/2014 1:38:50 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: cherokee1

SAKO TRG M10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usAlvCUXBeY


44 posted on 03/31/2014 1:39:03 PM PDT by Viiksitimali
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To: Jim Robinson
"Well, guess he’d better damn well develop one in a hurry."

LOL. No chit. I don't know what all Vlad may have in mind, but I do know he seem to be Hell bent on showing Europe just how many places he could make real trouble if he wants to.

I think the powers that be in Russia feel like they've been patted on the had and not taken seriously for long enough.

How much like Soviet Russia the country becomes could depend as much on how Europe deals with Vlad as it does on what he and his crowd want internally. One thing I seriously doubt, though, is that Russia will be changing leaders every four years anytime soon or being led by anyone who believes that Russia is evil and too powerful the way Americans have elected an SOB who hates America.

45 posted on 03/31/2014 1:39:53 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: ZULU
A new Hitler on the loose...

Worse, Putin has nuclear arms.

46 posted on 03/31/2014 1:56:44 PM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: Jim Robinson

The world has seen Obama’s Arab spring and it’s aftermath.

This is Russian spring. => cus, you don’t invade Finland in the winter.


47 posted on 03/31/2014 2:00:37 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Jim Robinson

My uncle was in Helsinki a few years back with his two sons. They are hanging around a fountain and got to talking with a local about WW2, my uncle is a Korea Veteran and history buff. The local pointed at the base of the fountain to what bullet marks, they had fought the Germans where they were standing.


48 posted on 03/31/2014 2:07:47 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: FredZarguna

~FRee Republic Platoon of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade arriving shortly to tell us that: 1) The Finns are really a bunch of Nazis and 2) Finland has always been part of Russia.~

You are far outreaching drawing parallels to Ukraine here. Finland has been a part of Russia, but they are a great example of successful self determination and a well-established nation today.
Their international policies and Russian politics respectively are an example to follow. Post-Soviet wannabe nations should take notes.


49 posted on 03/31/2014 2:14:30 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: cherokee1

~I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume the Fins have stuff at least that good now?~

IMO, a large part of Finnish armament is of Soviet origin, including small arms, armor and air-defence systems.
I think Finland was among the latest advanced nations to retire Mig-21 too.
They procured scores of East German surplus after German reunification.


50 posted on 03/31/2014 2:14:30 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: Fitzy_888

That never happened. The Germans and the Finns were allies through most of the war, and when they did fight in 1944 (because as a condition of peace with Russia, the Finns had to chase out the Germans), it was in the far north, a long way from Helsinki.


51 posted on 03/31/2014 2:17:38 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: vladimir998

Yes, amazing.

Finns get criticism for being allies of Germany under Hitler. From my perspective it was more about being against Russia than for Germany. But I was not there.


52 posted on 03/31/2014 2:49:36 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Maybe it was Copenhagen where they saw the fountain
(?), I’d have to ask again. My uncle has Finnish ancestry, most of the stories are about Finland. They went to a big car show in Germany while they were there, he has a couple Borgward cars he’s restored.


53 posted on 03/31/2014 3:22:56 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Fitzy_888

That would make more sense. The Danes weren’t in a position to put up much resistance in 1940, but when the British entered Denmark in the Spring of 1945, Danish Resistance units came out of hiding in the cities and engaged in firefights in the streets with Germans and Nazi-collaborating Danes


54 posted on 03/31/2014 4:54:37 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: wetphoenix
Their successful self-determination was purchased at a high price in blood -- their own and Soviet. As happened in the Crimea, the Russians stole parts of Finland they wanted and thought they could cheaply keep. The parallels are not the least exorbitant.

The Russian history of using the Red Army and false flag operations to provide intimidation and provocation was widespread during the mid-1940's, as was stuffing ballot boxes, and accusing anyone who opposed them of being "Nazis."

The Russian Dancing Bear apparently has not learned any new tricks, but then, why bother when the old tricks sold so well to useful idiots in the West?

Welcome to FRee Republic. If you signed on 12 days ago to be yet another Putin crotch-sniffer, expect to be -- deservedly -- flamed.

55 posted on 03/31/2014 7:45:00 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Obama does have a Russia policy. His policy is to do nothing.


56 posted on 03/31/2014 7:46:43 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Stupid thing for Russia to do but it may be a response to the recent NATO exercise in northern Norway, near Russia and Finland.


57 posted on 03/31/2014 8:40:47 PM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: Texas Fossil

When did the Ukraine become a country?


58 posted on 03/31/2014 8:43:45 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

It was a part of Czarist Russia before the Commies.

They resisted collectivism under Stalin. He starved millions of them to death.

Look up: Holodomor


59 posted on 04/01/2014 6:38:29 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Monmouth78

I was on one of those in 1995. We do them every year as far as I know. Did we do an unscheduled one this year?


60 posted on 04/01/2014 9:55:57 AM PDT by jospehm20
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