Posted on 03/30/2014 1:28:16 PM PDT by annalex
According to Dr. Olga Bogomolets, a Maidan leader and a candidate in Ukraines slated May presidential elections, the photographs shown to her by The Daily Beast provide unique insight into what took place on February 20.
Remember that video of a conversation between Estonias Foreign Minister Urmas Paet and EU foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton that was supposed to "prove" how the Maidan activists were the snipers? The eye witness mentioned in that leak was the same Olga Bogomolets that is now pointing at the Russian Federation's Alfa units.
This was the incriminating passage in that conversation:
And second, what was quite disturbing, this same Olga [Bogomolets] told as well that all the evidence shows that the people who were killed by snipers from both sides, among policemen and then people from the streets, that they were the same snipers killing people from both sides, the Estonian FM stressed.
Kiev snipers hired by Maidan leaders - leaked EU's Ashton phone tape
What we now understand is that the confusion that Olga experienced while under fire from both sides does not necessarily incriminate the Maidan. It simply proves that more than one professionally trained group was shooting at the demonstrators.
Previously:
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I think it would be foolish to think this couldn’t happen in the US. Just label the Tea Party as terrorists, weapons dealers, or anti-govt radicals.
Of course. Thank you, E. Pluribus Unum, for the illustration.
Boston. The King’s soldiers got the upper hand, and all the Minutemen ran and hid.
Yes his graphics were a powerful reminder.
BTW I wasn’t calling you foolish. Sorry if it came across that way.
My brother has a coworker who has a Ukrainian wife. Her family reported bodies of Russian soldiers in the streets. I didn’t get where or when. I certainly can’t verify this. Just passing it along.
Yes. Putin is a KGB man: that means, cowardice when facing strength, arrogance when offered to negotiate, and readiness to strike when the opponent is not looking. In this scenario both miscalculated: Obama probably seriously thinks that weakness begets goodwill, and Putin, seeing that he is dealing with a pansy, miscalculated in thinking that since the man is weak, so are the Western institutions.
Of course, — I took no offense.
Probably, just outside the Ukrainian border. Just like there are many Russians who live in Ukraine, there are many Ukrainians living in RF.
Remember, in soviet times it wasn’t really a border. People in the Russian south did not think of national identification much. For most it hinged on which language they felt more fluent at, and of course everyone spoke both Russian and Ukrainian passably well.
If we choose to be weak,we *are* weak.Europe has chosen to be weak for decades.*We* have chosen to be weak since November 2008.
Putin is just following standard procedure for tyrants. If killing one won’t calm the masses, kill 10. If not 10, kill 100. If not 100, kill 1000. If not 1000, kill 10,000.
Until the population no longer resists.
Putin is just following standard procedure for tyrants. If killing one won’t calm the masses, kill 10. If not 10, kill 100. If not 100, kill 1000. If not 1000, kill 10,000.
Until the population no longer resists.
Well, not quite. We are since 2008 at the junction where men who try to govern our foreign relations are weak, but there is still institutional inertia at the second and third tier that has strength left. For example, NATO has some adults in charge it seems. That was Putin’s miscalculation: he didn’t expect that.
You know, this is for grown-ups. If you have nothing to offer except cartoons, find a thread for cartoons and post there.
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