Skip to comments.Millions could go off blood pressure meds
Posted on 03/29/2014 6:57:54 PM PDT by kingattax
Washington (AFP) - One in four American adults over 60 being treated for high blood pressure could go off their medication under recent guidelines issued in the United States, a study said Saturday.
The changes, which stirred controversy in the medical community, could mean nearly six million may no longer need drugs to control their blood pressure, Duke University researchers said in the Journal of the American Medical Association.
The findings are the first to analyze the impact of 2014 guidelines that raised blood pressure targets to 150/90, instead of the previous goal of 140/90, in adults age 60 and older.
"Raising the target in older adults is controversial, and not all experts agree with this new recommendation," said lead author Ann Marie Navar-Boggan, a cardiology fellow at the Duke University School of Medicine.
"In this study, we wanted to determine the number of adults affected by these changes."
The guidelines were issued by the Joint National Committee on Prevention, Detection, Evaluation, and Treatment of High Blood Pressure.
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Funny how all these studies are endorsing reduce levels of care.
“In this study, we wanted to determine the number of adults affected by these changes.”
By the number of oldsters that suddenly die off, getting them off government roles.
People cannot die early if they are on bp meds.
>>Funny how all these studies are endorsing reduce levels of care.
Are they reducing levels to satisfy the government now? Or did they increase the levels to the point of ridiculousness in the past to satisfy the pharmaceutical companies?
Beta blockers are very cheap, safe, and have been proven to reduce the risk and slow the advancement of hypertensive disease.
Gee. Women don’t need mammograms. People don’t need blood pressure meds. Not since Obeymecare came along. What a funny coincidence.
Heh...now watch the oldsters live longer without the medicine.
I’m 60 and between those two numbers. I take BP medication and will continue to do so. I enjoy not having headaches. It’s $10/3 month. Well worth it.
bp meds cause enough bad problems on their own.
Well since some of the studies are for things that don’t involve drugs I’d say it doesn’t involve the drug companies.
“Gee. Women dont need mammograms. People dont need blood pressure meds. Not since Obeymecare came along. What a funny coincidence.”
Ditto for screening PSA blood tests for Prostate Cancer. The Half-Breed is doing all he can to have us older folks move over and make room for “his people.”
Basic diuretics are cheaper yet.
My bp is not all that high untreated (about 140/95), but if I don’t take the meds, I get a heart murmur. So, I take them.
I remember my mother was in the hospital for a week when she had my little brother....a whole week....
>>Well since some of the studies are for things that dont involve drugs Id say it doesnt involve the drug companies.
Some...yes. But what about the statins, BP drugs, anti-depressants, ADD/ADHD drugs, etc? Almost everyone is on at least one of those, and there’s a smokin’ hot pharmaceutical rep clip-clopping in to the doctor’s office on her impossibly high heels almost every time I’m in the waiting room.
Beta blockers and some diuretics have been linked to the development of diabetes.
I’m sticking with my ACE inhibitor and calcium channel blocker. And I am not going off them when I hit sixty.
Hospitals were a much different breed when our mothers delivered. I stayed 2 nights after each of mine. I was more than ready to leave by then!
This is beyond ridiculous. Just a way to avoid providing needed treatment under Obamacare.
Was the best experience...and we were all home within a few hours. Nothing was mandated...we did it because we trusted the Doctor completely...The last kid I paid for completely out of pocket.
They both are now fine upstanding kids!!
They should have gotten government jobs!
Mine are only $4.00 per month and a diuretic does not protect from the effects of adrenaline on heart tissue as my high bp and pvcs are from anxiety. Beta blockers also can actually strength the heart muscle by forcing it to work more efficiently.
Watch out...it’s coming: stay healthy or die.
Some people have side effects to beta blockers such as worsening depression and reduced energy, lethargy.
The OLD old standard was that your top figure should be under 100+your age, so under 160 at 60 yrs old. That was changed to <140, and now is in between at 150.
well IT IS the objective of Obamacare to “control what the nation is spending on ‘healthcare’ “ LOL
Won't work for me I'm a couple years of and last time I went off my meds I hit a nice 194/112. Of course some people might like me off my meds and some may feel I need a lot more!
I had a good friend recently die via BP problems who I believe could have lived several years longer had he gotten out of the mentality of using the local VA hospital as his primary care giver and sought private care instead as he had insurance.
I took myself off bp meds against doc’s advice, changed my diet, and now my new normal is 117/76. NO salt, no caffeine, very little fat.
Meds never got bp down that far. Diet worked in about two weeks, getting used to it now, happy with results. I read a lot, thought it was worth a try. Sure was :)
OTOH, if I REALLY needed meds or surgery, I’d be seriously ticked if insurance didn’t cover it.
My doctor - who was not a specialist - had five women who were due to delivery within the same week. Just so happened that it was also the opening week of pheasant season in Kansas. All of us were induced so we could all go in, have our babies and come home in no more than three days because all the husbands and the docs had a hunting trip planned.
Everybody made it on schedule, the guys had a great time hunting and the freezers were all full for the fall season. So went life in the early 1960’s!
I imagine a whole lot less are going to need blood pressure meds once the muzzie in chief is out of the White House .....
eggs are good, eggs are bad ..you need blood pressure pills, you don’t need blood pressure meds ..what a crock! All of it.
I remember that having heart surgery would require months in the hospital. Now they are out the next day. I think it has to do with greater medical care than reduced care for the patient.
Boundary cases are always troublesome in a science that only yields vague results.
Oh I hate to tell you this, but you ARE going to die regardless. That is why I have such a problem with food Nazis and smoking Nazis
.as if you eat perfectly you are going to live forever. Wonder why Alzheimer's is up?????? People are living too long
..YEP it is true.
were any of the babies named Hunter?
Yep just another way to cull the population.
Some illness will always top the charts. It’s a mortal coil. If Alzheimers is licked, something else will peak, maybe cancers of a different kind. And so it goes.
Yep. My doc and I were just getting a laugh out of this same coinidink, recently. His reply...."Death Panels".
LOL... took me a minute... good one!
This smells very much like a gummint plan to reduce its meds costs.
I’m 63, doctor took me off my meds when I managed to get my BP to 117/73 with an at rest heart rate of 65.....
Looks like some of Holders people are happy navigators (HON).....
("his people" = Holders people = HON = Happy Obamacare Navigator)
HON....OK whitey....lets check your voter registrations ....
HON....Looks like you need to make a couple of adjustments here....and here....
OK now I see it......your colonoscopy is scheduled for next month.....and the insulin will be mailed as before...
HON Thinks...."this desk job sure beats stealing cell phones and a once a year gig patrolling voting booths with my billy club."
...and easier on the knuckles than punching out "Polar Bears"...just a few clicks of the mouse and they on tha fast track to the Liverpool Pathway....just like in the UK...where they euthanize 60,000 oldies every year.
(He also got the message about hiding the screen image of his laptop)
and note the body language of his clients..
The guy with face clenched in anguish
and the lady...red face...hand clenched across chest....and neck veins popping out.
"Obeymecare!!!" I love it!!!
“Some people have side effects to beta blockers such as worsening depression and reduced energy, lethargy.”
In my opinion, beta blockers are horrible drugs. Aside from what you mention above, beta blockers greatly increase your risk of diabetes, and there’s the little publicized factoid that abrupt cessation of beta blockers greatly increase your risk of sudden heart attack.
Diuretics can also be extremely nasty as they can cause drop in potassium, precipitating all kinds of muscle problems, including heart attack.
I could probably get off BP meds if I’d quit watching TV, stop reading the internet and stop talking to everyone.
“bp meds cause enough bad problems on their own.”
Not me. Have been very effective with no side effects that I can ascertain. I see them as a lifesaver for anyone with high BP.
Back in the 70s, when I was taking nursing classes, we were taught a guideline of age + 100, up to age 60 or 65; 90 diastolic was still the to end then.
Like eggs, butter, BMI targets, cholesterol levels, etc, the medical standards/norms/recommendation continue to fluctuate more than a half charged flux capacitor’s readings.