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Paul Ryan's Last 24 Hours: Immigration Reform Is Inevitable; (to Hispanic Chamber of Commerce)
The Wire ^ | Mar 26, 2014 | Philip Bump

Posted on 03/27/2014 5:16:52 AM PDT by sickoflibs

"It’s not a question of 'if' we fix our broken immigration laws," Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan said on Wednesday, but "a question of 'when.'" And the answer to "when" is: No time terribly soon, if his other troubles are a guide.

Ryan made the comments at a breakfast hosted by the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce in Washington, Politico reports. "[W]e understand the value of immigration," he then told the assembled audience. Republicans "have ideas on how to make this go forward and make it work so that we do have the rule of law so that we do have reform, so that we’re not in the same position 15 years down the road."

What those ideas are have been a closely-held secret for some time. Earlier this year, House Republicans gathered to agree on a set of principles that would guide their immigration push. It seemed like the party was ready to introduce actual policy proposals (although not those passed by the Senate in 2013). Then the far-right caucus started pulling the emergency brake. First, any reforms were pushed until after primaries; then they appeared to be tabled completely. What Ryan offered, then, was exactly what had been delivered for well over 15 years: somedays.

Of course, Ryan's had a bad week. After he made comments that conflated the inner city with "generations of men not even thinking about working or learning the value and the culture of work," Ryan quickly had to step away from allegations that his comments were racially motivated. Among those leveling the charge were California Rep. Barbara Lee, who represents Oakland. "My colleague Congressman Ryan's comments about 'inner city' poverty are a thinly veiled racial attack and cannot be tolerated," she said in an email earlier this month. Last night, Ryan appeared on Fox News to explain to Bill O'Reilly that Lee was wrong. "She knows that I don’t have a racist bone in my body," Ryan said. Not a great lead-in to his immigration comments, to be sure.

Not exactly helping the case was one-time Republican guru Karl Rove. Shortly after Ryan's remarks, Rove tweeted a link to a story from the libertarian site Reason.com arguing that "Hispanics Don't Hate Republicans." The argument was that a poll conducted by the Public Religion Research Institute put a negative spin on what was actually good news.

"[L]ess than half of Hispanic respondents had a negative reaction to the Republican Party," Emily Ekins wrote at the site. "Even one of the responses PRRI coded as negative — that Republicans are 'rich' — isn’t necessarily a bad thing since Hispanics lead the way in faith in the American Dream and the bootstrapping work ethic it entails." Hispanic voters immediately thinking "rich" when someone says "Republican" is good news, according to Ekins. Lower in the piece, she listed the reactions Hispanic voters offered. 15 percent said "Rich/Corporate," which is a liiiiittle different than "rich." (Ekins added a parenthetical to that entry: "(is this necessarily bad?)")

Number two on the list? "Anti-immigrant/Racist/Intolerant." The Republicans have ideas on that, I hear.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; immigration; invasion; mexico; ryan; teamromney
Something tells me that those budget resolutions of his that never see law wouldn't be that popular with Hispanics.


1 posted on 03/27/2014 5:16:52 AM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; EXCH54FE; GeronL; Travis McGee; jimbo123; stephenjohnbanker; ...

Lemme guess, Paul Ryan 2016.


2 posted on 03/27/2014 5:18:22 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

This imbecile’s defeat should be inevitable.


3 posted on 03/27/2014 5:18:28 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: sickoflibs

Hey Paulie ... the immigration LAWS ain’t broken.


4 posted on 03/27/2014 5:19:29 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: sickoflibs

How many inadvertent mistakes did he include in this bill?

Don’t worry they will be correct just like they were for the vets.


5 posted on 03/27/2014 5:21:28 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: sickoflibs

Inevitable=Paul Ryan Rino looser.
Freegards
LEX


6 posted on 03/27/2014 5:22:19 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: sickoflibs

Paul Ryan ?

Didn’t he used to be somebody ???


7 posted on 03/27/2014 5:28:38 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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To: sickoflibs
Immigration ReformThe day we populate the lamp posts in DC with politicians Is Inevitable.

There.....fixed it.

8 posted on 03/27/2014 5:28:40 AM PDT by Envisioning (It's the Jihad, stupid......)
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To: sickoflibs

Hey look! More lesser evil! Boy it’s a good thing we are OK with lesser evil! Now everyone get out there November and vote for the GOP because a dem giving you Amnesty is worse than a Republican giving you amnesty.

Yup! it is!


9 posted on 03/27/2014 5:35:10 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (I)
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To: sickoflibs

I think all of us support immigration reform. It depends on how you define “reform.”

1. I favor taking control of the borders.
2, I favor immediate deportation of an alien who is arrested for criminal acts.
3. I favor that children of illegals receive no special favoritism.
4. I favor illegals receive no welfare benefits - housing, food stamps, medical, etc.
5. I favor employers who hire illegals be arrested in accordance with current law.
6. I favor legislation and favorable constitutional interpretation which denies automatic citizenship to children born to couples citizens of another country.

This is immigration reform I favor.


10 posted on 03/27/2014 5:43:40 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: sickoflibs

We definitely need “reform” - to make it tougher to get into this country


11 posted on 03/27/2014 5:44:38 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: sickoflibs

sorry paul, you ain’t going to get Hispanic votes or favorable press for selling out your soul to a liberal agenda.

All you are doing is helping create a large band new voting block for Democrats.

Your a fool.


12 posted on 03/27/2014 6:04:00 AM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: elpadre
  1. secure the border in a transparently verifiable way;
  2. end the anchor-baby interpretation of the 14th Amendment;
  3. enforce eVerify without exception and with severe penalties;
  4. no government benefits beyond critical emergency care (and that ought to be billed back to the home government); and
  5. NO "Path to Citizenship" - ever - for anyone who has entered the US illegally.

13 posted on 03/27/2014 6:11:45 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: sickoflibs

This fraud was coached to hide his real views about immigration when Romney picked him for his VP candidate in 2012. I wouldn’t trust anything this guy says. Even his vaulted “Budget Roadmap” that was touted a few years back would have taken about 40 years to balance the budget.

I have nothing but contempt for this amnesty pusher.


14 posted on 03/27/2014 6:43:51 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: sickoflibs

Reform, yes, but maybe not the reform the left is thinking of. Item number one MUST be border security. Build the WALL first, then we’ll talk.


15 posted on 03/27/2014 6:55:48 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: SharpRightTurn
RE :”I wouldn’t trust anything this guy says. Even his vaulted “Budget Roadmap” that was touted a few years back would have taken about 40 years to balance the budget.
I have nothing but contempt for this amnesty pusher.”

Ryan's scam medicare reform plan was quite popular here in early 2011 and a short revival with the establishment freepers here in early 2013, a few got mad at me even then.

I was the first and probably only one here to diss it in 2011.

His proposal to do nothing to medicare (except maybe spend more on it) for 10 whole years, then 10 years later something magical happens and we don't need it anymore for a select group of Americans, his 'you have to wait 10 years to see what's in it', plan, was very disingenuous , and it didn't fool anyone anyway.

Crap like this just helped Dems convince younger voters to vote against THEM.

16 posted on 03/27/2014 6:56:57 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

Paul Ryan is betrayal personified

He blatantly backstabbed veterans

Now he betrays all but inside-the-beltway establishment liberal republicans

He really needs to be retired


17 posted on 03/27/2014 6:57:00 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: sickoflibs

Several years ago, Glenn Beck, in the middle of an interview, blurted out to Dead-to-Me, “Please don’t be a scumbag!”

Too bad Dead-to-Me wasn’t able to oblige.


18 posted on 03/27/2014 6:57:39 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: sickoflibs

I can’t stand seeing that guy anymore. He is open borders wacko same as his mentor Jack Kemp...... Plus Ryan is a serf of the large donors who are pro-Amnesty such as Sheldon Adelson and the Koch Bros.

I like how Ryan goes on about balancing the budget but will open the illegal immigration floodgates which will make America a permanent liberal racist Democrat ruled nation. Which means a wildly spendthrift nation that implodes


19 posted on 03/27/2014 7:02:35 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw
RE :”I like how Ryan goes on about balancing the budget but will open the illegal immigration floodgates which will make America a permanent liberal racist Democrat ruled nation. Which means a wildly spendthrift nation that implodes”

His ‘You have to pass my wait 10 years to see what's in it medicare reform plan, now’ was a joke from the start : see 16

Tell us how they poll with the group you are trying to butter up Paul.

20 posted on 03/27/2014 7:17:03 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

He and Rubio are being idealistic ‘young guns’. On other issues I can often agree with Ryan and Rubio. So I hear, Rubio has done an about face but I haven’t really read into it.


21 posted on 03/27/2014 7:21:20 AM PDT by BeadCounter (morning glory evening grace)
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To: sickoflibs

The Dems carpet bomb the GOP on immigration. In response the GOP does barely anything. Only recently did they gingerly attack the kenyan for his lawlessness. So naturally the Dems “win” the messaging. The surrender party never engages. I find the entire kabuki bizarre.


22 posted on 03/27/2014 7:26:27 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: sickoflibs

FU PR.


23 posted on 03/27/2014 7:35:00 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: All

Would someone tell me what it is that’s BROKE about the immigration “system”?


24 posted on 03/27/2014 8:06:46 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: VerySadAmerican

The Democrats say it is broke so Republicans take that ball and run with it......as usual.


25 posted on 03/27/2014 9:14:43 AM PDT by sheana
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To: sickoflibs; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related threads.

26 posted on 03/27/2014 10:42:05 AM PDT by HiJinx (Borders, Language, Culture)
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To: sickoflibs

This guy is a joke. He has real citizens who’s interests he should be looking out for.


27 posted on 03/27/2014 11:12:14 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: LongWayHome
RE :”This guy is a joke. He has real citizens who’s interests he should be looking out for”

But he balances the budget in 10 years while cutting taxes and increased military spending. He is the budget wizard.

28 posted on 03/27/2014 11:15:22 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

Paul Ryan Go Away, Go Far Away and soon. This fall you will be voted out in Wisconsin, and hopefully Wisconsinites will make sure you are not welcome in Janesville.


29 posted on 03/27/2014 1:01:52 PM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: hondact200

Paul Ryan, the Ryan Leaf of politics.

All hype, no substance.


30 posted on 03/27/2014 1:45:23 PM PDT by Lets Roll NOW (A baby isn't a punishment, Obama is)
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To: elpadre
I think all of us support immigration reform. It depends on how you define “reform.”

Immigration "Reform" is just a euphemism for amnesty and an increased move towards an open-borders immigration policy. As far as I'm concerned, the laws that are on the books now are more or less fine as they are. They aren't in need in reform. What's in dire need of reform is lack of enforcement - including deportation.

31 posted on 03/27/2014 2:47:23 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: VerySadAmerican
Would someone tell me what it is that’s BROKE about the immigration “system”?

To sane people: lack of enforcement of existing immigration laws.

To liberal Democrats (and all too many sellout Republicans): Too much enforcement of existing laws.

32 posted on 03/27/2014 2:59:39 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: BeadCounter

Rubio is with House Leadership not directly with Chuck Schumer. So Rubio will claim he is a tiny bit to the right of Schumer.

Rubio told Google he can’t really see a world where the illegals don’t eventually get citizenship.


33 posted on 03/27/2014 3:56:24 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: sickoflibs

Ryan’s the guy who sits on his hands as a third rate clown like Obama insults him in public, but then he will turn around and carry Obama’s water on immigration to deliver the democratic party 30 million new voters.


34 posted on 03/27/2014 5:29:15 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: sickoflibs

If only we could split the La Raza vote away from the Democrats—which is the natural order of banana republics, and let them be the Partia Tercera.


35 posted on 03/28/2014 3:58:26 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
If only we could split the La Raza vote away from the Democrats—which is the natural order of banana republics, and let them be the Partia Tercera.

Be careful of what you wish for. If they form their own party, it will be the Aztlan Party, whose platform is the southwest US seceding and joining Mexico.

36 posted on 03/28/2014 7:18:54 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: sickoflibs

Paul Ryan gets the Treason Lobby award of the day!


37 posted on 03/28/2014 11:55:12 AM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

“Would someone tell me what it is that’s BROKE about the immigration “system”?”

The GOP and Dem politicians who refuse to enforce it. From Dubya to Obama.


38 posted on 03/28/2014 11:57:34 AM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: sickoflibs
What Ryan offered, then, was exactly what had been delivered for well over 15 years: somedays.
39 posted on 03/30/2014 5:36:17 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: sickoflibs
What nonsense. Ryan is a loser. We have immigration laws. We just need to enforce them, speed up deportations, and build a fence.

No matter how much he tries to suck up to the Hispanics, they will not vote for him. He should have learned this from McCain's pathetic example in 2008.

40 posted on 04/01/2014 1:52:11 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3
Yep, but how about his resolutions?

Ryan unveils House GOP budget claiming balance (another Budget Resolution)

41 posted on 04/01/2014 1:56:31 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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