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What does Vladimir Putin want next?
This is CNN ^ | March 21, 2014 | By Tim Lister

Posted on 03/22/2014 10:48:07 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Jim Robinson

A little piece of Poland,
A little piece of France,
A little piece of Austria
And Hungary, perchance!
A little slice of Turkey
And all that that entails,
And then a bit of England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales!


41 posted on 03/22/2014 12:21:24 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: caveat emptor

Stephen Harper is the Leader of the Free World.


42 posted on 03/22/2014 12:22:32 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jim Robinson

Crimea is landlocked. Access overland will require more of the Eastern Ukraine.


43 posted on 03/22/2014 12:23:20 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Jim Robinson
What does Vladimir Putin want next?

An understanding with Germany.

44 posted on 03/22/2014 12:24:28 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. H)
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To: Marguerite

Watch as Putin Moves into south Black Sea—put pressure on Turkey (maybe get Hagia Sophia back as a church). Russia will become the good friend of the Slavic Peoples once again. Watch as he moves into Africa and South America.


45 posted on 03/22/2014 12:28:36 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Jim Robinson

“What does Putin want next?”

The same he wants every night, Pinky....TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!!


46 posted on 03/22/2014 12:32:18 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Oh, you mean the US?


47 posted on 03/22/2014 12:34:52 PM PDT by dforest
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To: hoagy62

Partially true. In a post-America world (thanks to comrade Obama), Putin wants to ensure Russia is the world’s dominant superpower.


50 posted on 03/22/2014 12:47:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Eva
I am about to post an article from National Review by Andrew McCarthy that explains the history that has enabled Putin to make these aggressive moves in the region and how the US foreign policy played right into his hands.

McCarthy's thesis is a real stretch. Countries have been doing these things since before man first put chisel to stone tablet. Germany annexed the Sudetenland because it could, not because of any legal rationalizations. If the EU had hit Russia with serious sanctions, Putin would have backed down. The reality is that Putin acted because nobody moved to stop him - not the Ukrainians, not the EU, and not the US. We are not the only players on the chessboard. If the Ukrainians are not prepared to fight for their territory, how is it our problem? And I would extend that logic to the rest of NATO, which has been steadily cutting defense budgets and simultaneously expanding their welfare states while lowering their debts even as our government debt rises in leaps and bounds.

51 posted on 03/22/2014 12:53:43 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Galtieri invaded the Falklands because he could.

The difference is there’s no Thatcher to oppose Putin.


52 posted on 03/22/2014 12:54:30 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: F15Eagle
I can’t imagine Putin backing down to anything regarding Obama. Guess we’ll see if I’m wrong. I think Crimea is gone and that will be that. And Putin may do more. Dunno, but that’s my guess.

My point is that Obama (and the EU) can make Putin's adventures extremely costly without doing much of anything. Obama doesn't want to confront Putin because he's really not interested in foreign policy entanglements. So he's decided to let Putin do whatever he wants. But he has the power to make Putin's life unbearable, the way *any* US president can, simply because of the size of the US economy.

But here's the thing - while we are whaling away at Obama, we also need to recognize that the US is not the only independent actor in this situation. The Ukrainians haven't exactly covered themselves in glory. If they can't work up the motivation to fight for what's theirs, how is that our (or the EU's) problem? We backed the Afghans against the Russians with billions of dollars in weaponry *after* they took fearful losses going up against superior Russian weaponry and training. The Afghans were the plucky underdog. The Ukrainians are certainly the underdog here, but plucky is not how I would describe their response to the annexation of the Crimea. In the long run, Ukraine needs to be responsible for its own territorial integrity. We don't need another military dependent added to the laundry list of former Warsaw Pact dependents tacked on a decade ago, all of which have been as useful in practical military terms as teats on a bull.

53 posted on 03/22/2014 1:13:53 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Putin acted because he knew that no one would act to stop him. BP is now a partner in the Russian oil company and the rest of Europe has put itself in a position of dependence on Russian natural gas.

There is another article on the WSJ on how the Greens made Germany vulnerable to the Russian aggression.


55 posted on 03/22/2014 1:19:53 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Zhang Fei

You didn’t read the article. This is a history lesson. Obama did not start this feckless foreign policy, he only doubled down on it.


56 posted on 03/22/2014 1:20:57 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Jim Robinson
In other words, if the Kremlin believes Russians are being discriminated against, Ukraine's independence is no longer assured.

Same is true for Moldavia and Estonia as well. Putin's henchmen are already there fomenting discontent according to one of my Amateur Radio contacts. Putin made a particular statement about the "treatment of Motherland Russian natives" in Moldavia, that statement was eerily similar to statements he made about the Crimean Peninsula less than a week before unbadged/unmarked Russian Military showed up.

Putin's end game is about restoring as much of the old Russian Federation as he can, and complete control over the territories the Russian natural gas pipeline goes through. That same pipeline delivers natural gas to Europe.

That's why the Euro-weenies aren't saying anything (besides Merckel anyway.)

57 posted on 03/22/2014 1:21:08 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Eva
...Europe has put itself in a position of dependence on Russian natural gas.

Commerce is a two way street. Europe depends on Russian gas. Russia depends on European gas money.

58 posted on 03/22/2014 1:23:20 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: dfwgator
Stephen Harper is the Leader of the Free World.

Sad but true.

60 posted on 03/22/2014 1:27:12 PM PDT by FreeReign
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