Posted on 03/17/2014 8:39:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Andrei Illarionov, formerly Vladimir Putin’s top economic advisor (and personal envoy to the G8) , has warned in an interview with Ukrainian television that Putin has already declared war on Kiev. Putin’s war is being conducted by Russian Spetsnaz (special operations) forces and KGB (now called FSB) agents and is aimed at toppling the pro-Western government in Kiev. The Spetsnaz forces’ orders include the sowing of civil unrest throughout Ukraine via strikes, demonstrations, staged incidents, and street battles. Putin’s subversive forces will also gin up neo-Nazi incidents with Nazi regalia and Swastikas on full display. Their orders include as well the deliberate killing of Russian soldiers and of ethnic Russian civilians to prove the hatred and extremism of radical Ukrainian nationalists. These orders come from Putin himself. Their goal is to create an image of intolerable chaos and loss of civil authority to justify a Russian takeover of all Ukraine. Putin’s goal is the destruction of pro-Western authority in Ukraine, the total humiliation of the West, and a makeover of the geopolitical balance.
Illiaronov’s urgent advice to Ukraine: Place all your effort into preserving civil order and avoid falling for the Spetsnaz provocations. (This will be difficult as Spetsnaz-organized gangs are already storming public buildings in East Ukraine). Ukrainian authorities must immediately close all borders with Russia to slow the infiltration of Spetsnaz and FSB destabilization units. Ukrainian TV and radio must immediately broadcast all their news in Russian or in English because many Ukrainian citizens and Russians do not understand Ukrainian.
Illarianov pleads that the whole world understand what Putin is up to. A Putin success in taking over Ukraine would change Europe and the balance of power and lead to further “restorations” of the former Soviet Union...
(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...
The little I know is that Slovak, is closer to Polish than Czech.
“...Putin would never allow that in Russia...”
Putin is a complete fascist himself.
Ultranationalism + Socialism = Fascism
What is more descriptive of Putin’s government than that? He even has his brown shirts (Night Wolves Bikers). Yet he wants to frighten the west by pointing out neo-Nazis who, in fact, exist in the Ukraine but don’t control the government. Putin’s play book isn’t original but it does seem to be working in the absence of any western leadership worth the name.
We’ve got a president who can’t be bothered to attend his own national security council meetings let alone provide any leadership.
Ukrainian is considered a bastardized and rustic form of Russian. Native Russian speakers don’t bother learning it.
"only citizens of Ukraine will have the right to private ownership of land, but "high concentration of land in one hand" will not be allowed."
He is rather fascist - in fact he really is, now that I ponder it more. Russia leans farther right than we do currently.
Actually they do have a great degree of control in the new Ukraine government. It’s all out there, just google and read.
They have significant positions of power and authority.
While in the US most see the expansion of Russia is based on its expansion of its energy products. Curiously the other half of reporting of circumstances within Ukrainia itself has been agenda driven even by so called western european sources which are siding with Russian claims.
One “authority” discussing an article in the UK Telegraph interviewed by John Batchelor on his nationwide syndicated show heard 3/15 at10 pm on Detroit’s WJR am 760. Went as far as to blame Catholics for the civil unrest. Was dismissive of the corruption occuring by not even mentioning it, or the Unkrainian Duma maitaining its constitutional authority to remove its PM. Accepting the invasion as a deja vu fait accompli. Not certain if this person was the one who presented the article and from the Telegraph or from the NY Times. But this is the b/s we are getting.
My wife admitted being embarrassed when her grandmother spoke Ukrainian mixed with Russian because it was like being a peasant from a village in eastern Ukraine. She lived in a larger town: Alchevsk. It was the very rural people out on the steppe who still spoke Ukrainian in the DonBass. Of course there would be more ethnic Ukrainians if so many had not been killed or sent to places like Solovki.
That's what you believe.
A Jewish coworker of mine who is from Ukraine has relatives in Odessa and Kiev. She believes differently. She says her relatives don't want to be part of Russia and they all feel comfortable in Ukraine.
The All-Ukrainian Jewish Congress disagrees with you. The full text of what they said.
A former Putin advisor doesn't agree with you. He says in Forbes that, Putin’s subversive forces will also gin up neo-Nazi incidents with Nazi regalia and Swastikas on full display.
You are repeating Russian propaganda.
Ukrainians are no more anti semitic than Russians are anti semitic or Americans are anti semitic.
You are broad brushing Ukrainians.
I believe in the Inalienable right to self determination. Ukrainians deserve that.
Damnit Putin. Don’t you know the weather is getting nice. Obama has to work on his golf game and it is just bad optics with you invading foreign countries. Obama has to pick his march madness brackets too. So please, show some courtesey.
Yes, and there are other pictures of Nazis in Russia. We could start posting those like MarMema posts pictures of Nazis in Ukraine.
But it would be unfair to broad brush entire countries based on such photos.
Thanks.
Some of us here tried to sound the alarm early on, but the Putinites assured us that Crimea would be the end of Putin’s ambition. At the rate he’s going, Uncle Vlad will be in Poland by April and France by the summer.
Waiting for Putin crotch sniffers to chime in to assure us now that he won’t go beyond Ukraine in 3 , 2 , 1 .......
Still it boils down to this tug of war over Ukraine currently....which has been brewing 'for years' between all the players now showing their hands.
I am amazed at all the Freepers who believe that crap. It's like they think Putin is some kind of Russian Messiah.
Putin is an expansionist pig. He won't stop until he "liberates" the entire former Soviet Union and brings all the Russian satellites back into the Soviet fold.
Putin will treat the ethnic Ukrainians the same way Stalin treated them. 10,000,000 unmarked graves.
The Right Sector neo-Nazi thugs are already beating people in the streets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvcPnY0QG7k
You haven’t lived with Nazis. My father did. He is an Auschwitz and other camp survivor.
He has told me many times, the West Ukrainian Nazi-supporters were worse to Jews than the Germans.
The gates of Hell have been opened.
He won’t get past Poland....Poland will kick his ass. And frankly, I don’t think Putin would be that stupid.
They were pretty bad to the Poles as well. That being said, most Poles and Ukrainians today get along just fine as fellow Slavic brothers, and will stand together against the common foe.
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