Skip to comments.Lost Jetís Path Seen as Altered via Computer
Posted on 03/17/2014 6:59:33 PM PDT by kristinn
The first turn to the west that diverted the missing Malaysia Airlines plane from its planned flight path from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing was carried out through a computer system that was most likely programmed by someone in the planes cockpit who was knowledgeable about airplane systems, according to senior American officials.
Instead of manually operating the planes controls, whoever altered Flight 370s path typed seven or eight keystrokes into a computer on a knee-high pedestal between the captain and the first officer, according to officials. The Flight Management System, as the computer is known, directs the plane from point to point specified in the flight plan submitted before each flight. It is not clear whether the planes path was reprogrammed before or after it took off.
The fact that the turn away from Beijing was programmed into the computer has reinforced the belief of investigators first voiced by Malaysian officials that the plane was deliberately diverted and that foul play was involved. It has also increased their focus on the planes captain and first officer.
According to investigators, it appears that a waypoint was added to the planned route. Pilots do that in the ordinary course of flying if air traffic controllers tell them to take a different route, to avoid weather or traffic. But in this case, the waypoint was far off the path to Beijing.
Whoever changed the planes course would have had to be familiar with Boeing aircraft, though not necessarily the 777 the type of plane that disappeared. American officials and aviation experts said it was far-fetched to believe that a passenger could have reprogrammed the Flight Management System.
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kristinn, I read somewhere there was a flight engineer on-board that night. Don’t have a link.
Captain stabbed the co-pilot, went nuts and crashed the plane into the Indian ocean.
Very good ... we’re getting more details all the time that show this was an exquisitely and impeccably planned event.
So it was the Captain, with a computer, in the cockpit is my “Clue” answer. But where’s the plane?
Oh great, now the TSA will ban laptops on planes.
Is there any way that someone could have entered the course direction into the computer from a remote location?
The computer that changed course was already built into the plane.
most likely = hell, if we know!
If it can connect to a network it can be hacked.
I heard about the flight engineer for the first time today on top-of-the-hour radio news.
So why have they been witholding this piece of info?
The article says there are two ways - the pilot and the airline. However if it was the airline, that would be quite a big conspiracy - saying that the airline wanted to divert its own plane. And ... if that sort of thing happened, with the pilot not being “in on it” - then he would take control and override the control.
In this case, you can be assured it came from the cockpit and that it was someone who knew very well how to handle the equipment.
To insure everyone’s safety - next TSA is going to ban passengers from planes, as well as pilots and flight crews.
I saw it reported before today.
More details than what was on Kelly tonight on FOX
(Reuters) - Malaysian police are investigating a flight engineer who was among the
passengers on the missing Malaysia Airlines plane as they focus on the pilots and anyone
else on board who had technical flying knowledge, a senior police official said.
The aviation engineer is Mohd Khairul Amri Selamat, 29, a Malaysian who has said on
social media he had worked for a private jet charter company.
The change in course wasn’t from a laptop computer ... :-) ...
That’s a good idea! Then the TSA can shut itself down and turn out the lights at the airports.
So this FO was on the pax manifest?
Sounds like some idiot reporter learned of the Flight Management System and just wanted to sound smart by using it in an article.
The article I saw only said that there was a flight engineer in the cockpit. So, that information was provided previous to today.
Just sit right back and you’ll hear a tale, a tale of a muzzie trip, that started from this muzzie ‘port aboard this muzzie ship!
Here is my question(If anyone here knows the answer that would be great) let’s say just for the sake of argument, that there was some catastrophic mechanical failure event taking place on the plane..would putting in this flight path on the computer make sense..or would the pilot just take the plane off of auto pilot and start flying back to an airport, any airport in the immediate area? I think it would be the most interesting to know WHEN the Pre-programmed U-Turn was programmed, BEFORE the flight or AFTER the flight was in the air..if it was before the plane ever took off that is the big game changer
Except for this phrase ... “according to senior American officials.”
If there is an emergency in flying the plane, you don’t try to control it remotely. The pilot would take control immediately.
“So it was the Captain, with a computer”
No, it was the flight director which is built into the aircraft.
Every commercial aircraft has one and a lot of private aircraft do also.
Nahhh.. Flight software was probably altered even before aircraft left the ground and at some point, no matter what the pilots did it had no effect. The guy flying the plane was probably sitting in the passenger section via his laptop or perhaps in another country flying the aircraft remotely. Commands by the pilots were probably futile as they were locked-out completely. Part of the evil hack probably included killing their voice communications from the cockpit to ATC after ‘alright, good night’. You buyin?
I’ll make a bet with you.
If it is used in some kind of terrorist attack, I bet the Obama adm. will have some version of the “spontaneous” lie to explain the timing of the attack itself.
Not the taking the plan as “spontaneous” but the attack itself.
That’s what I thought, that if something horrible is happening on board mechanically, they wouldn’t even bother to do this, they would take the plane to the nearest airport, not bother punching in some fly path
Surely the pilot can take back manual control in such a situation. A plane hack?
I would love to know how they know this.
Yeah, but the computer that changed course may have received it’s orders from another computer, just like in Internetland.
That would solve the problem. Or put them out with sleeping gas.
Except that phrase means nothing. Might as well have said, “I am making this stuff up.”
Seems to me I heard this a day or two ago. Maybe it was speculation at that time. Hard to keep track.
I want to know why this particular plane, and or particular flight? Why steal THIS plane?
For cargo? For plane? For passenger(s)?
Especially this ace pilot.
I’m pretty committed to the wreckage/debris field off Pulau Palax, but this engineer changes everything. I think the pilot would have done everything to recover control, unless someone incapacitated him.
Mine: Plane was headed for Diego Garcia. It was intercepted and shot down. This happened during several golf games that included some precise mulligans. The specifics are sealed forever. Next EO?
I heard this touched on, maybe with a tank full, it could go a long way so I think it is for the plane. They spoke about this some on Megyn Kelly’s show.
Probably attempting to sign up online for Obamacare. "If you have an airline pilot, you can keep your airline pilot".
The first thing (of any kind) that disappears is never found. That’s how stuff works. By the third or fourth disappearance, the authorities and international experts will have figured out the whole mystery, you’ll see. Patience.
Has anyone really disproved this gentleman’s statement?
Could a rogue military pilot, say from Viet Nam have purposely collide with the 777.
Just remember 09/10/2001 no one could imagine what the scenario of the next day.
Yeah ... and so, we can see that it was a very well planned event by someone (or several) who knew exactly how to fly the plane and knew very well how the systems worked.
And all that leads me to conclude that they did not fly the southern route (because there’s nothing but ocean there) - but took the northern route.
As to what the purpose of this planned event was (or is to be) - there’s not “any” information (i.e., facts related to this flight) on that - that I’ve seen in any article so far.
What I want to know is, why the let Hines Ward fly the plane?
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