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Missing MH370: Expert Needed to Disable B777 Systems
Malaysia Star ^ | 3/15

Posted on 03/15/2014 2:24:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway

When I read the names of the two pilots, I knew immediately that the Religion of Peace already had control of that plane....


41 posted on 03/15/2014 4:53:11 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: Jumper

Records should show how much fuel was loaded on the plane.


42 posted on 03/15/2014 5:22:46 PM PDT by ncfool (Taking back America 2016.)
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To: Zhang Fei

The argument against the northern route is they couldn’t have reached it without being noticed. Absent some late announcement that Nepalese, etc. radar had seen them that argument fails IF they went north. It may be incompetence in which case someone’s superiors had better at least feign outrage. Or it may be their defenses, optimally run, aren’t as good as advertised, in which case someone’s taxpayers may be outraged. But if there are merely cracks in their systems, which MH370 exploited, there may be clues in how they learned such and there may be clues to their path and current position in discovering those cracks. It’s another angle on a problem for which we have little data. The US Air Force and Navy should contain folks able and willing to differentiate amongst those possibilities. If they don’t, even after 5 years of Obama, I’m outraged.


43 posted on 03/15/2014 5:28:12 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: Jumper

When I first saw a photo of the pilot (not the co-pilot), I knew he was guilty. A photo of the pilot, I read, is posted on facebook.


44 posted on 03/15/2014 5:33:03 PM PDT by Finalmente
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To: Finalmente

This part is true: flies the plane toward Mecca


45 posted on 03/15/2014 5:35:22 PM PDT by ncfool (Taking back America 2016.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“I think a bigger problem is that cellphones go out of range. Once they are off-shore, and 20 or 30 miles from a celltower, they do not work.”

That is all out the window. As it does not work that way. While on the plane cell phones communicate with the planes communication system. The plane then talks directly with a satellite which then communicates with the ground phone system. So in essence the plane itself is a cell tower. It is this system in the plane that sent all the final pings to the satellites. And it also explains the actual communication with cell phones that were still turned on when loved ones tried to call in.

It is possible that the cell phones were collected by terrorists. It is also possible that all normal passengers were already dead according to some theories.


46 posted on 03/15/2014 5:45:41 PM PDT by Revel
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To: dirtboy

See my last post. There is no such thing as being out of cellphone range.


47 posted on 03/15/2014 5:47:23 PM PDT by Revel
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To: nickcarraway

My suggestion: get the email address and cell number of every passenger. Then check for any outgoing messages .


48 posted on 03/15/2014 6:23:39 PM PDT by jimjohn (You don't get the kind of government you want, or the kind you need. You get the kind you deserve.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

You are correct. Cell phone signals are high-UHF or near microwave and are almost pure line of sight. From 35,000 feet line of sight is over 100 miles, which is 15 minutes at 400 mph. At that distance the signal is far more limited by path loss than by line of sight issues. Consider that the cell phone transmit antenna is inside a metal tube and the only signal that escapes is via the windows. That loss factor would be quite a bit.

By saving that my Verizon cell phone works fine from cruising altitude, I was merely pointing out how wrong the 9-11 “truthers” are on this point and that it tells me all I need to know about their fanaticism.

I hold a FCC Commercial License and have the Radar Endorsement that was issued in 1969 apart from driving airplanes since then.


49 posted on 03/15/2014 6:33:14 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Revel
While on the plane cell phones communicate with the planes communication system.

That's true when everything is working normally. The cellphones power down to a minimum power mode, and the plane acts like a cell tower. I think it does this indirectly, rather than transmitting on the cell frequencies, but that's irrelevant here.

However, if the presumed hijackers were smart enough to power down the transponders, they were probably smart enough to turn off that system. If they did, the cell phones would still most likely work on their own when within a reasonable distance from the cell towers. A couple of hours out into the ocean, they wouldn't work. But, you are probably right that either the passengers were dead or the phones were collected. With the info we have so far, I'd vote for death by depressurization.

50 posted on 03/15/2014 7:03:50 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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So, the question begs - is there a feasible way for a plane to send a signal out which cannot be disrupted by the pilot because of reasonable scenarios.

Passive RFID. Is that feasible?
51 posted on 03/15/2014 7:05:39 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Procyon
dMalaysia airlines does not subscribe to the ACARS so their pilots would not be familiar with it.

You mean HCM -- for extended overwater operations everyone has to have continuous availability to dispatch, with two-way communications. I think they had ACARS, though it may have been disabled at some point.

52 posted on 03/15/2014 7:30:05 PM PDT by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

For a couple of reasons we know that they did not power down that system.

1. It is the system that kept communicating with a satellite for hours, and the reason that they knew the plane was flying for hours.

2. The Sat was actually able to detect the cell phones. That is why loved ones could hear a long series of rings when calling.


53 posted on 03/16/2014 10:40:08 AM PDT by Revel
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