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Missing MH370: Expert Needed to Disable B777 Systems
Malaysia Star ^ | 3/15

Posted on 03/15/2014 2:24:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 03/15/2014 2:24:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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At first I thought with the number of people with cellphones on the plane someone would call for help. But then I remembered there are electronic devices which disable cell phones ability to make/receive calls that are readily available and cheap.


2 posted on 03/15/2014 2:31:31 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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An expert would be needed to disable the systems on the missing Malaysia Airlines jet.

There are several wrong statements in this story but this is a fact.

3 posted on 03/15/2014 2:33:38 PM PDT by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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I think a bigger problem is that cellphones go out of range. Once they are off-shore, and 20 or 30 miles from a celltower, they do not work.

Some have commented on how phones worked during 9/11. That’s not relevant here, because the 9/11 plane paths were entirely over land, where cell towers are plentiful.


4 posted on 03/15/2014 2:37:06 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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Presumably there are bound manuals onboard that tell you have to disable most anything. In the case of an electrical short/fire in a given system you would need these instructions. With some planning you wouldn’t need to fumble with a four inch think binder, but a single peace of paper with only those exact instructions or you could memorize the fuse panel location, fuse locations, sizes and/or slot numbers.


5 posted on 03/15/2014 2:39:00 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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Bookmark


6 posted on 03/15/2014 2:40:08 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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...its whereabouts would have to be known by someone deeply familiar with the 777.

If someone wants to steal something, they can do the research.

7 posted on 03/15/2014 2:42:22 PM PDT by Libloather (Embrace the suck)
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Is it possible to jam the transponder signal without actually turning off the equipment?


8 posted on 03/15/2014 2:43:50 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Why are the systems made available to the crew in such a way that they can be disabled? What’s the real world, legitimate reason for crew disabling these systems?


9 posted on 03/15/2014 2:45:43 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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"Pilots rarely, if ever, need to access the circuit breakers, which are reserved for maintenance personnel."

Seems simple enough. Were all maintenance personnel accounted for or is it being covered up?

10 posted on 03/15/2014 2:47:46 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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If the plane was over the ocean when it went to 45,000 feet (IMO as part of a plan to decompress the cabin and kill the passengers), the plane would have been out of cell phone range. I think this was a sick but well-conceived theft of the plane by either the pilot, co-pilot or a crew member who had access to the cockpit.


11 posted on 03/15/2014 2:48:02 PM PDT by dirtboy
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“What’s the real world, legitimate reason for crew disabling these systems?”

Electrical problems. Shorts. Fires.

You’d want to be able to shut them down in cases like this.


12 posted on 03/15/2014 2:49:32 PM PDT by FAA
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The transponder too? Seems like that logic could extend to shutting down the black box. Thanks for the reply :)


13 posted on 03/15/2014 2:52:24 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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Is it possible to jam the transponder signal without actually turning off the equipment?

Generally, no. You do not jam the transmitter - you jam the receiver. But the receiver is on an Iridium satellite. If you have to jam from the transmitter's position, you have to use 100 times as much power, and an antenna that is just as good - and even that may be not enough, depending on the modulation of the signal.

14 posted on 03/15/2014 2:52:27 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: nickcarraway; a fool in paradise
First word of the article:

If

Thank you too much.

15 posted on 03/15/2014 2:55:37 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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Why are the systems made available to the crew in such a way that they can be disabled? What’s the real world, legitimate reason for crew disabling these systems?<\i>

For the ACARS it gives us the ability to reset the system if it is not functioning propey. Similar to cntr-alt-del

16 posted on 03/15/2014 2:57:14 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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I’ve always heard it’s to be able kill the power so you can extinguish an electrical fire.


17 posted on 03/15/2014 3:02:35 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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ACARS

Heard or read .. can't remember ACARS was disabled. Or experts (dime a dozen) believe it was disabled.

18 posted on 03/15/2014 3:05:03 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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Have some diabolical terrorists refined the technology of ‘BAIT CARS’???


19 posted on 03/15/2014 3:06:07 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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I could figure it out:

http://www.hawkeyemedia.com/panos/777_Avionics.asp


20 posted on 03/15/2014 3:09:19 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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