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Hong Kong pilot spots debris in Vietnamese waters
CCTV English ^ | 03-11-2014 0617 bjt | James

Posted on 03/11/2014 3:51:38 PM PDT by tcrlaf

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To: diogenes ghost
TWA800 WAS a mechanical failure. Quit drinking conspiracy Kool-Aid.

The US Navy has HUNDREDS of planes every day slamming on carrier decks --what if a spontaneous explosion happened on a CARRIER, loaded with fuel and ordnance..?

The US Navy rightfully wondered about that, and performed many test on their a/c after TWA800 --over 100 times then even dumped entire HIBACHIS full of briquettes, tossed flaming rags, etc into full tanks, 1/2 full tanks, almost empty tanks, and what did they get..?

Nada --not a single explosion.

Finally they very deliberately misted fuel of the same type in a high wind at a FLAMING RAG on a stake with video-cameras rolling --over 90% of the time the rag WENT OUT --it was extinguished.

Fiiiinally they did replicate a single explosion but after they measured the explosive energy produced they saw it would not so much as rupture the a/c's cargo container walls, to say nothing of blowing off the a/c's nose, which was the story.

Bomb or missile? That I don't know, but "spontaneous center fuel tank explosion"...?

It's ridiculous.

The Muslim war on the Imperialist West started well before 9-11, but the theme of Clinton's impending re-election was Peace & Prosperity --going gallivanting around the world in a search for punishing the responsible parties would have upset that.

Much as at Bengazi.

41 posted on 03/11/2014 5:04:15 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: txhurl

And, isn’t it time to use a datalink to store all that flight data AWAY from the plane? Why have to go look for the flight data recorders? Just open the file and have at it...


42 posted on 03/11/2014 5:11:19 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: AppyPappy
No, there was a rising smoke trail and exhaust from the ocean to the sky.

"I looked up because it sounded like thunder. I kept looking trying to figure out what it was. And that's when I saw a flare come off the water. The flare, trailing orange flame, shot up roughly at a 45 degree angle, then rapidly increased its angle of ascent. Then it appeared to strike something. This was the strangest thing I ever saw. Everyone calls it a 'missile theory,' but when you see something, you know what you see, and I didn't see a 'theory'." - Tom Dougherty, Flight 800 eye-witness; interviewed on Hard Copy, 1996

"We saw what appeared to be a flare going straight up. As a matter of fact, we thought it was from a boat. It was a bright reddish-orange color. Once it went into flames I knew that it wasn't a flare." - Lou Desyron, Flight 800 eye-witness; ABC World News Sunday; 07/21/96.

"It was what we would best describe as a boat flare, a reddish object going up. It went up and a few seconds later we saw an explosion in the sky. I can't say if it came off shore or on shore. At first, we thought it was a boat flare. It zigzagged a little. We thought it was strange. Then, several seconds later, we saw an eruption of fire. We never heard anything. We saw a fireball, and at that point we identified what was an aircraft. We could see it fluttering down. We were the third boat on Long Island to report the incident to the Coast Guard. It was something going up to it beforehand. Yes, I saw flaming debris go down. Something attracted us to the area before it exploded. And even my wife and my oldest daughter, we all were witnesses to it. There definitely was something there first before the aircraft went down." - Donald Eick, Flight 800 eye-witness; October 20, 1997; The Press-Enterprise, Riverside, CA.

And so on, more than 200 times.

43 posted on 03/11/2014 5:16:00 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: gaijin
going gallivanting around the world in a search for punishing the responsible parties would have upset that.

Much as at Bengazi.

Didn't finish that --Bengazi was almost a carbon-copy; a terrorist event more or less at the beginning of the final-stretch of the re-election of an incumbent liberal Democrat.

They'd claimed that AQ was on the ropes due to the fearless leadership of our Dear Leader, and Bengazi put the lie to that silly claim.

And so the great machine went into gear, sending all the King's Horses and Men hither and yon, arranging it so that a baaaad, dastardly Hollywood Jew --strike that-- bad Hollywood Koptic CHRISTIAN, had gone and slandered the wonderful name of Mohammed.

They called 5 film crews and set up kleig lights and arrested an innocent old guy wrapped in a towel in the middle of the night and paraded him before the world.

Hillary ADVERTISED her apoligy on the craziest parts of Pakistan, apparently in a bid to CALL ATTENTION to the arcane video and produce the type of wild violence that would support their claim of widespread protest and riots.

In both cases, TWA800 and Bengazi, we saw the operation of a Coverup Machine and the astounding lengths it would go in order to affect the outcome of a national election.

44 posted on 03/11/2014 5:17:26 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Lazamataz
Over 200 eyewitnesses saw a missile streak up to hit flight 800.

Along with about a dozen people CNN interviewed within hours after the crash who also saw a streak of light that left a jagged trail, from the ocean's surface to the plane itself.

I watched each and every one of those interviews that day.

(gee, I wonder what that jagged trail was ... lemme think, lemme think ..... SURFACE TO AIR MISSILE, THAT'S WHAT!)

45 posted on 03/11/2014 5:18:42 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: diogenes ghost
ITEM 35
A Hand grenade with a pin pull and cover with black electric tape drop in fuel tank -—this was used in laos in 69s
46 posted on 03/11/2014 5:20:26 PM PDT by ralph rotten
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To: Ben Hecks

“Vung Tau....yes, small restaurant on Back Beach....fried rice topped with an egg followed by fresh sliced pineapple flamed with rum. Also R&R center for VC”

Just looked at the area on Google Maps. The Bomb craters are unmistakable in the delta jungle.


47 posted on 03/11/2014 5:23:42 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: diogenes ghost

I’m saying the first 747 flew in 1969 and almost 1500 of them built and they are flying every day.

Flight is the only 747 to experience a “tiny spark in a fuel tank”. Could it happen, maybe.

Does the chance of that occurring outweigh the many eyewitnesses who saw a missile. Some of them trained and experience military people. Like the guy who flew choppers in the Army and saw numerous surface to air missiles.

Not a chance in hades.


48 posted on 03/11/2014 5:23:43 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: gaijin

“Nada —not a single explosion.”

Which any farm boy or lumberjack could have told them would be the case since Jet/Kerosene/Diesel (all closely combustion related) do not ‘explode’ like gasoline. Otherwise, every garage and mechanical work area for 100 years equipped with a parts washer would have been a ball of fire.

To say nothing of every oil/kerosene heater in existence...


49 posted on 03/11/2014 5:24:25 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Lazamataz

Ask yourself this. If that many people spotted it and reported it, why didn’t they find the shooter?

Occams Razor


50 posted on 03/11/2014 5:25:40 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Viennacon

I wonder if the pilot let more bimbos inside the cockpit and one of them bumped against some buttons or switches.


51 posted on 03/11/2014 5:26:31 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: AppyPappy

Maybe good planning? Maybe he didn’t fire in a crowd full of people and had plenty of time to GTFO?


52 posted on 03/11/2014 5:27:40 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Sarah Barracuda; tcrlaf
That is the story that was circulating last night..nothing ever came of it

Thanks for that info. If that's so, I hope the OP will have it taken out of breaking news. Maybe ask the admin to edit the title to indicate. Otherwise, it looks like we have a bunch of confused posters replying to the headline/article who haven't read your comment.

53 posted on 03/11/2014 5:29:25 PM PDT by lonevoice (We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality)
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To: Norm Lenhart

If I shot down an airliner with a MANPAD off the coast, they would find me immediately. No boat would be unsearched,


54 posted on 03/11/2014 5:32:52 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy

Maybe htey did find the shooter. The real question is why didn’t they tell us who the shooter was.


55 posted on 03/11/2014 5:35:20 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Keeping that a secret would be pretty difficult.


56 posted on 03/11/2014 5:37:17 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Norm Lenhart

Sure they do. Their flash point is just higher then gasoline. Which means it is harder to ignite.

I’ve picked pieces of a jet up off the ground before. I guarantee there was a flash boom when it hit the ground.


57 posted on 03/11/2014 5:38:49 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: AppyPappy

Actually the simplest explanation IS a missile. The most unlikely is that of a wire sparking in the fuel tank.


58 posted on 03/11/2014 5:39:42 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: AppyPappy

Really? We have people stationed every few hundred feet ready to arrest people? Talk about a police state!

How DO all these rapists and murders operate with such vast coverage? Oh I see. These people stationed every few hundred feet are trained only to apprehend people who fire manpads or some other missile...something very common and drilled for daily.

Of course perhaps due to good planning they got to International waters...or the local pizza hut long before anyone zeroed the launch site. It’s called escaping a dragnet and it happens.

Occam’s Razor indeed.


59 posted on 03/11/2014 5:40:29 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: AppyPappy

Why would it be difficult? They’ve kept far bigger secrets.


60 posted on 03/11/2014 5:41:18 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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