Posted on 03/08/2014 6:51:24 PM PST by Astute
He’s screwing with you. I-400’s were retired after WWII and sunk as targets by us. Only three ever even got wet.
“It is not uncommon to have several workers from the same company/industry to be on the same flight. While attending trade shows, I have seen many of the same company and or associates on one flight. They simply are traveling to one place and happened onto the same flight. It is very usual in the trade association industry.”
Can tell you for sure, in regards to the international tech company I work for,,it would take an amazing amount of coordination to make such a thing happen since the reports are coming from different cities. The people from Philly are not going to “happen on the same flight” to Orlando as the people from Slovakia.....
Freescale,,wasn’t that once part of Motorola? The Freescale facility closest to me in Austin used to be Motorola.
Apparently, many corporate travel arrangers with companies get some nice freebies when they cram a lot of employees on the same plane or make them fly two or three stops to get some place when a less costly non stop with better connections is available.
Corporations determine what flights are “in policy”,,and the arrangers are usually admin assistants who aren’t in contact with each other, ,,,but are aware many may be traveling to the same event.
Friend of mine who is in Information Systems/Computers went last Summer to Malaysia for his job. I’ll have to find out exactly what that was about.
Chineese have a cloak?
may—be
Thanks for the post — a really, really big company and no surprise it would have that many foreign workers.
I worked for one of their competitors, it too, is a really big international company.
Don’t forget the need for lots and lots of fresh water. I good semi-conductor fab plant can use 5,000,000 gallons of water per day.
When a friend of mine travels with his family, his wife and younger son are on one flight, he and his older son are on another, the notion being that the whole family won't be wiped out in a plane crash.
I asked him whether he applied the same reasoning to driving in a car, where the odds of being in a fatal wreck are so much higher. The bottom line is that people are more afraid of freak events than what's actually likely to kill them.
Because US companies are turning into shell companies that just hold foreign manufacturing firms, until that technology get copied by foreign competitors and they go out of business.
Because US companies are turning into shell companies that just hold foreign manufacturing firms, until that technology get copied by foreign competitors and they go out of business.
And those shell companies want to have their cake and eat it too: they want their production to take place in Third World Countries, and yet they also want US patent laws to protect them in those foreign countries.
True, but they know their products will soon be copied. But that's not the choice they are facing. Either they off-shore their manufacturing or they are run out of business by competitors who do.
Given the rules set up by the U.S. government, off-shoring is the only winning play. It's only a short-term win, but there is no long-term win.
The government needs to restore the import tariffs. Lowering them was a major mistake.
Thanks for the links, mar mema
Cyber liberty, Pinging you to this post
Cyber liberty here’s another link; many thanks mar mema !
From what I can see in the article, the missing employees were not “top management” for Corporate, although pretty important to the KLM and Tianjin manufacturing operations. Both facilities will not be affected in any major way. “Top Management” folks, like VPs and such, are based stateside. Additionally, I don’t recognize the names from the Manifest I got from FR, while I know the top management officers. They weren’t on the manifest. I can’t say who they are, that’s more or less proprietary, to be released by our designated press relations people (we have a whole department for that).
The military applications of these particular products come as a bit of surprise to me, but that is to be expected because I am a drone in an R&D lab (I work with the scientists, but I am not one of them). I don’t know where any of this stuff goes, it seems. I always assumed it was for cars and industrial controllers. I don’t have a need to know, and I like to keep it that way.
There’s going to be Hell to pay after this settles, because there’s no way all those suits should have been on one plane, regardless of their niche in the hierarchy and brain trust. I expect a memo in a few months.
I don’t think you understand the fundamental nature of this manufacturing business. The facilities in KLM and Tianjin are back-end assembly operations. They take wafers, slice and dice them into individual chips and package them. In the old days that meant building the familiar centipede Dual Inline Packages. There is a lot to doing just that, but it’s still the labor-intensive, relatively low-tech parts of the process.
The real expensive magic is where the wafers are fabbed, the front-end. Circuits are masked, etched, crystals grown and the doping atoms are driven into the layers of the integrated circuits. The bunny-suit/clean room stuff. That happens in the US, in our fabs in Austin, Chandler AZ and some foundry third-party companies back East. The real value added stuff is not offshored, despite what you keep hearing/saying. Other companies are in the same situation. Intel, for example, does almost all their wafer fab right here.
Want to destroy the semiconductor industry? Then impose sharp tariffs on our work in places like KLM and Tianjin. While you bask in your warm, happy feelings of successfully getting even with the lower-cost back-end operations, the wafer fabs will be destroyed as their demand drops off. I know it would make you feel better, but it would suck for me because I’d be out of a job I’ve had for 30 years doing R&D work for this process. And it would suck for many thousands of other Americans.
Do you think they’ll be thanking you? I think it more likely they’d be laying in supplies of tar and feathers to greet you.
BS. What do you think we make, tinkertoys and piston rods? Stuff that can easily be transferred offshore?
Back-end packaging, sure. Been doing that since the ‘70’s. Front end wafer fab? No, US. Some companies have facilities in Europe, but the third world is just not a place where you can build advanced wafer technology.
Thanks for clearing up the questions/comments/what-happen-eds
Well, when I got up this morning, FR was dead, so I surfed Drudge. Found the Rolls Royce story and now everything’s murkier than ever.
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