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Pastor's AR-15 assault rifle giveaway creates controversy [ In protest of the NY Safe Act ]
Albany TU ^ | March 5, 2014 | By Paul Grondahl

Posted on 03/06/2014 7:12:07 AM PST by Fitzy_888

The pastor of a Lansingburgh Baptist church plans to give away an AR-15 assault rifle to the winner of a free raffle at an upcoming Sunday service.

A provocative flier he distributed rallied supporters of gun rights and stirred controversy among anti-gun advocates and some who considered it un-Christian.

The Rev. John Koletas, pastor of Grace Baptist Church, said the service and gun raffle are aimed at "honoring hunters and gun owners who have been so viciously attacked by the antichristian socialist media and antichristian socialist politicians the last few years," according to a letter he posted on the church website.

Koletas, who works as a Rensselaer County court reporter, said he wanted to show support for Second Amendment rights.

"I'm just trying to be a blessing and a help to the gun owners and the hunters and give away a free AR-15," he said. "It's the right thing to do."

(Excerpt) Read more at m.timesunion.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; cuomo; ny; safeact

1 posted on 03/06/2014 7:12:07 AM PST by Fitzy_888
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To: Fitzy_888

Hug a Baptist today


2 posted on 03/06/2014 7:13:59 AM PST by laotzu
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To: Fitzy_888

Who thinks it’s controversial?


3 posted on 03/06/2014 7:14:32 AM PST by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: Fitzy_888

That ought to pack them in.


4 posted on 03/06/2014 7:16:07 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Fido969
Bloomberg does.


5 posted on 03/06/2014 7:17:16 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Fitzy_888

Great! A Baptist that knows WHO he serves.


6 posted on 03/06/2014 7:21:17 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Fitzy_888

...packed the house I’d bet.


7 posted on 03/06/2014 7:23:50 AM PST by Recon Dad (Force Recon Dad)
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To: Fitzy_888

New York State?

Wow has Cuomo pre-positioned a SWAT team outside the church yet?


8 posted on 03/06/2014 7:27:17 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Fitzy_888
This is how America got started-

Guess who was on the front lines making explosives in 1776?

1776 Clergy and Citizens make gunpowder ingredients

"but the making of Salt Petre has made such rapid progress especially at Portsmouth where both clergy and Laity are employed six days in the week & the Seventh is seasoned with it."

"Provincial and State Papers, During The Revolution 1776-1783 By New Hampshire", Volume 8, Nathaniel Bouton p26 taken from "The New Hampshire Gazette", Jan 9 1776, No.1001

Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!

9 posted on 03/06/2014 7:33:32 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Fitzy_888; All

All of these raffles have a background check involved.

I thought liberals loved background checks.


10 posted on 03/06/2014 7:37:12 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Fitzy_888

What is an assault rifle?


11 posted on 03/06/2014 7:58:49 AM PST by GregoTX (Remember the Alamo)
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To: bunkerhill7

Glenn Beck has made quite a bit out of this fact. IIRC, the “Great Awakening” spiritual movement began about the same general time frame as the lead-in to the American Revolution, which makes sense to all but the Left.


12 posted on 03/06/2014 8:05:09 AM PST by Pecos (The Chicago Way: Kill the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: GregoTX

13 posted on 03/06/2014 9:10:16 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Fitzy_888
What would Jesus do?

Luke 22:36 - Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

While there are many considerations and many demands on our time and assets, Jesus would tell us that arming ourselves with the best weapons available in our time is a part of being a good follower of His Word.

And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

Jesus would also counsel moderation - balancing that need against other needs rather than strapping on dozens of swords (firearms) per person.

14 posted on 03/06/2014 9:12:03 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Svartalfiar
I think I found out what an assault rifle is.

It is actually called A Salt Rifle. It fires table salt to kill insects inside of your house.

Bug Assault - A Salt Rifle


15 posted on 03/06/2014 9:20:33 AM PST by GregoTX (Remember the Alamo)
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To: Pollster1
And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

I've seen these versed used for pro-gun purposes. If I read the above verse in that context, then how could two swords be enough for the eleven disciples? Just asking.

16 posted on 03/06/2014 9:26:44 AM PST by aimhigh ( Self defense - a human right.)
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To: aimhigh
I've seen these versed used for pro-gun purposes. If I read the above verse in that context, then how could two swords be enough for the eleven disciples? Just asking.

I think the point is that (while Jesus would shortly thereafter tell disciples not to defend him personally with the sword), they would be both permitted and expected to physically defend themselves once He was gone. He also did not want them to make weapons central to their work as might have been the case if they were all armed. I see this as one of many examples of the same message we see in Ecclesiastes 3:1 "To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven." Self-defense? Yes. Allowing that task to interfere with their primary mission? No.

17 posted on 03/06/2014 10:27:46 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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