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Ukraine Crisis Live: Russia Admits its Troops Are Moving in Crimea
The U.K. Telegraph ^ | Friday, February 28, 2014 | Josie Ensor

Posted on 02/28/2014 8:34:17 AM PST by kristinn

16.25 Our correspondent in Simferopol, Roland Oliphant, says Russian troops have moved into Crimea in what Moscow is calling a mission to “protect Black Sea Fleet’s positions”

15.50 BREAKING: The Russian foreign ministry has admitted that armoured units from the Black Sea Fleet base near Sevastopol had entered Crimea in order to protect fleet positions.

The Ukrainian side was also passed a note regarding the movement of armoured vehicles of the Russian Black Sea Fleet in Crimea, which is happening in full accordance with the foundation Russian-Ukrainian agreements on the Black Sea Fleet,” the ministry said in a statement posted on its website on Friday afternoon.

In the same note the Russian foreign ministry said it had declined a Ukrainian request for “bilateral consultations” on events in Crimea because they are “the result of recent internal political processes in Ukraine.”

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; russia; ukraine; ukrainecrisis; war
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1 posted on 02/28/2014 8:34:17 AM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn; cripplecreek; Army Air Corps; Travis McGee

You knew this was coming.


2 posted on 02/28/2014 8:37:27 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: kristinn

If Obama allows Ukraine to be drug back into Russian control, he will be the pResident who rebuilt the Iron Curtain.


3 posted on 02/28/2014 8:38:56 AM PST by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: swamprebel

For him that will be a point of pride.


4 posted on 02/28/2014 8:41:54 AM PST by marron
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To: swamprebel

The US under zer0’s regime is 5x the communist regime than Russia.

We must wake up to that fact and work on taking care of removing our own Iron Curtain. And let the Russians, Crimea and the Ukraine work this out for themselves.


5 posted on 02/28/2014 8:43:16 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: swamprebel
If Obama allows Ukraine to be drug back into Russian control, he will be the pResident who rebuilt the Iron Curtain.

Nobody even seems to care about the fact that he gave Iraq back to Al Qaeda, or gave Egypt to the Muslim Brotherhood, or is allowing Iran to get nukes. I sincerely doubt the MSM or any of the US public cares (or even has a clue about any of it) what happens in the Ukraine.

Obama got his tough talk on video and that pretty much wraps up his involvement. If things go south from here, the MSM will go mum on the topic and we'll be back to celebrating our gayness instead.

6 posted on 02/28/2014 8:44:54 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: KC_Lion

Yup.

Only two possible outcomes. Split the country in half or live under Russian control.

I’m not really wasting a whole lot of time thinking about it. We’ve got far bigger problems right here.


7 posted on 02/28/2014 8:46:35 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: KC_Lion
Russia wants to keep the Crimean ports. Europe wants the Russian gas. This could get messy. Russia will NOT give up the sea ports.


8 posted on 02/28/2014 8:46:47 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Vaquero

Doing nothing, for Ukraine, is a violation of treaty. The Budapest Memorandum, signed by Bill Clinton, John Major, Boris Yeltsin and Leonid Kuchma – the then-rulers of the USA, UK, Russia and Ukraine – the treaty promises to uphold the territorial integrity of Ukraine, in return for Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons.


9 posted on 02/28/2014 8:49:26 AM PST by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: kristinn

Putin will be he most powerful nation on the earth in a few years. They will reclaim the Ukraine in short order and he knows that King Obama is a child like piece of garbage and the most ignorant President America ever had. Say goodbye to America, we are now a communists nation heading to third world status.


10 posted on 02/28/2014 8:50:15 AM PST by Logical me
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To: kristinn
I'm wondering what is the backing of those "freedom fighters". It does not seem that anyone wants to get involved with defending them.

If the EU embraces their tactics, what's to stop protestors in places like Greece from doing the same thing to get rid of the EU?

11 posted on 02/28/2014 8:50:29 AM PST by grania
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To: Travis McGee
Via EuromaidanPR on Twitter:

BREAKING VIDEO of 12 #russian-combat helicopters (MI-24 & MI-8 3) over #Sevastopol in #Crimea http://youtu.be/ZUthbNCA1nc |PR Video #Ukraine

Link to YouTube video

12 posted on 02/28/2014 8:50:49 AM PST by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: Vaquero

Exactly.

Hard ass talk from us is pointless. Its like being threatened by Madagascar.


13 posted on 02/28/2014 8:51:27 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: grania
If the EU embraces their tactics, what's to stop protestors in places like Greece from doing the same thing to get rid of the EU?

Greece had its current government installed by the IMF and Goldman Sachs. If the Greek people rebel the EU will send in troops and shoot them in the streets.

14 posted on 02/28/2014 8:54:34 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: KC_Lion

They have a Naval Base in Crimea. Of course they’re going to protect it.


15 posted on 02/28/2014 9:00:53 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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16 posted on 02/28/2014 9:01:12 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: swamprebel

I’m not sure that memo applies to this event. If it does, it seems that Nato has something to say first. At present, it appears to be a civil war.


17 posted on 02/28/2014 9:03:44 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: kristinn

ITV: Russian soldiers ‘surround Ukraine border guard base’

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-02-28/russian-soldiers-surround-ukraine-border-guard-base/

U.S. Media pretty much ignoring these events. Are they afraid covering it might make King Obama and the Democrats look bad?


18 posted on 02/28/2014 9:05:41 AM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: kristinn

So, the ‘wargames’ and ‘exercises’ were nothing but actual war.


19 posted on 02/28/2014 9:07:09 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: kristinn

I’m not surprised Russia has acted. I just did not anticipate it would happen this soon.


20 posted on 02/28/2014 9:08:02 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: kristinn

We all knew this was coming.

Ukraine threw off the shackles and the Russians will bring them right back.

Yanukovyich is probably going to be installed as head of “Russian Crimea”

The US say anything about this yet? Does it matter?


21 posted on 02/28/2014 9:09:12 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: swamprebel

Obama might personally rebuild the wall


22 posted on 02/28/2014 9:10:39 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: swamprebel

would that make him any worse than FDR?

Unfortunately, Russia has no intention of letting the Ukraine go - too important and too close.

I hardly think this is as big an issue as the news is making it. Joining the EU doesn’t mean prosperity for all the people in the country. More likely prosperity for a few wealthy while the farming class which is significant in that part of the world gets the shaft ultimately and the wealthy from the west get to come in and buy up the land and wealth. (The situation for many in Romania)

With Soros involved in this up to his eyeballs who can trust the outcome? Soros does the NWO bankers business and chaos as does Putin to an extant. The revolutions 2 decades ago in most of these countries were manipulated and contrived by Russia. That even includes Romania if one looks deep enough. (the military and police acting strangely and in attics and rooftops taking shots at civilians - this is acknowledged by the people in the country and a number of books - and similar behavior in the Ukraine) Not saying there isn’t a real desire by people for independence or change, but that at higher levels among the powers that be these things are usually predetermined and played out for the Wests consumption for an endgame that further weakens real freedom and enables corruption and world socialism or the NWO.

America has more than enough issues to deal with than assuring Ukrainian independence. And if we do get involved who knows if that that wasn’t the gambit all along to further stretch our resources and get us into more ridiculous situations - what all for the cause of democracy? (whatever that fr-kin means?)


23 posted on 02/28/2014 9:11:53 AM PST by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones - FUBO - Come and get me)
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To: Travis McGee
Sky News reporter Yulia Bragina via Twitter:

MFA in Russia ordered it's consulate in Simferopol to give Russian passports to Berkut. Putin needs ppl who will do what they are told.

24 posted on 02/28/2014 9:12:01 AM PST by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: Sacajaweau
They have a Naval Base in Crimea. Of course they’re going to protect it.

From the pro-Russia population of Crimea?

25 posted on 02/28/2014 9:12:03 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

No...from the puppet fascists in Kiev.


26 posted on 02/28/2014 9:16:26 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: tcrlaf
You nailed it.

The agreement was that Greater Russia be allowed to happen, and as a result we get concessions on Natural Gas.

27 posted on 02/28/2014 9:17:44 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Sacajaweau

You really think this about their naval base?


28 posted on 02/28/2014 9:18:48 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: mac_truck

Yup, that’s our Vladi . . . standing-up for human rights, the rule of law, and free will. Where do we find such brave men? [swoon]


29 posted on 02/28/2014 9:19:31 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Sacajaweau
A Civil War that involves a foreign army on one side?

Russian troops: No where near a naval base

30 posted on 02/28/2014 9:19:52 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: 1rudeboy
Yup, that’s our Vladi . . . standing-up for human rights, the rule of law, and free will. Where do we find such brave men? [swoon]

If I were a betting man, I would bet that it wasn't Vlad who started this latest little "revolution". I would bet that the pro-EU west was behind this one (just like the ones in Egypt, Libya, and elsewhere).

Quite frankly, I can understand why people don't want to be part of the EU... the EU isn't exactly doing all that great for it's people... it's just another layer of corrupt government sapping the fruits out of people's labors.

31 posted on 02/28/2014 9:24:10 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Lazamataz

Bingo.


32 posted on 02/28/2014 9:25:32 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: tcrlaf

I went to yahoo News and did the side scroll for a bit and saw nothing about this


33 posted on 02/28/2014 9:25:34 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Cementjungle
What I don't understand is, why, whenever there is a revolution/uprising/whatever somewhere, people need to believe that some force was behind it?

Take Venezuela, for example, who is pulling the strings there?

34 posted on 02/28/2014 9:27:50 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: GeronL

Absolutely AND the 60% of the Crimean population who are Russian.


35 posted on 02/28/2014 9:27:54 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

The Soviet Union and Russians colonized lots of the countries absorbed by the USSR and sent massive numbers of people to Siberia


36 posted on 02/28/2014 9:31:52 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
Greece had its current government installed by the IMF and Goldman Sachs.

It makes me wonder why a poor country would want to align itself with the EU. Who is behind those protestors?

37 posted on 02/28/2014 9:34:36 AM PST by grania
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To: KC_Lion

yes, we knew, we predicted it days ago


38 posted on 02/28/2014 9:37:21 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Sacajaweau

I suppose we should also give parts of the US back to Mexico because they speak Spanish??


39 posted on 02/28/2014 9:40:09 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: goldstategop
"I’m not surprised Russia has acted. I just did not anticipate it would happen this soon."

It is still short of troops and armor crossing from Russia proper into Ukraine. I think Putin will continue to nibble and use the local forces and population as cover and not openly invade. He may move for a de facto partition of the Crimea and maybe some of the East from the rest of Ukraine rather than a full annexation IMO.

40 posted on 02/28/2014 9:40:38 AM PST by Truth29
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To: 1rudeboy
In this day and age we have the ability to turn a half-dozen dunk protesters into a full-blown "revolution" using media tricks, a few public comments from high officials and money.

The Egyptian "Arab Spring" might have fizzled out on its own had we (the West) not given such support to the radicals. Same thing in Libya. By the same token, the near-revolution in Iran a few years ago had the same potential, but we kept quiet and thus helped the regime.

In the Ukraine, we're talking it up, offering financial incentives, and the MSM is playing its part. We're definitely involved.

41 posted on 02/28/2014 9:41:46 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: kristinn

I was kinda waiting for that ever since Ukraine kick out the so called President last weekend

Al Jazeera and BBC been cover it hard core since last weekend


42 posted on 02/28/2014 9:45:56 AM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Truth29
A convoy of nine Russian armored personnel carriers and a truck on a road between the port city of Sevastopol and the regional capital, Sinferopol, >the Associated Press reported.>
43 posted on 02/28/2014 9:49:41 AM PST by cornelis
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17.35 All aircraft movements at Sevastopol’s Belbek airfield are stopped after unidentified individuals seized the runway, a according to the Interfax-Ukraine news agency
.... From the same source as this thread...


44 posted on 02/28/2014 9:54:09 AM PST by elpinta (Jer. 10:23 - It really holds true!)
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To: swamprebel

Its questionable how treaties hold up in court when a government is overthrown. Just look at what happened with the regime rollercoaster in Egypt.


45 posted on 02/28/2014 9:56:10 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: swamprebel

Bill Clinton? Forget it.

When we are ‘America’ again we will rebuild our military. I don’t want this POSOTUS handling more of our military than he has to.
At this time former KGB operative vlad Putin makes a better capitalist leader and Christian than zer0.


46 posted on 02/28/2014 9:56:37 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: GeronL

No, but US did act in part of Mexico populated bz Americans... its called Texas....


47 posted on 02/28/2014 10:04:36 AM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kristinn

48 posted on 02/28/2014 10:18:20 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

http://live.reuters.com/Event/World_News

Conciliatory words hide Putin’s anger over Ukraine

At almost midnight and with little fanfare, the Kremlin put out a statement outlining President Vladimir Putin’s orders on Ukraine - and they were as conciliatory as earlier Russian announcements had been confrontational.

Ordering his government to work with Ukrainian and foreign partners to find a financial package to shore up Ukraine’s collapsing finances, Putin struck a measured note compared to the military muscle-flexing of other officials, who had put thousands of Russian troops on high alert.

//

Russian intervention in Ukraine would be grave mistake: White House
by Amy Tennery (Reuters) 11:42 AM


49 posted on 02/28/2014 10:21:03 AM PST by maggief
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To: Travis McGee
I wish that I had the know how to transpose the map below over yours.


50 posted on 02/28/2014 10:26:42 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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