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With reports that Yanukovych has fled Ukraine, parliament seeks to take charge today (live updates)
Kievpost ^ | Feb. 22, 2014, 12:30 p.m. | Kyiv | Kyiv by Kyiv Post

Posted on 02/22/2014 3:02:14 AM PST by Trapper6012

Ukraine's parliament is seeking to take charge, appoint new leaders and schedule a new presidential election by May.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: obamaforeignpolicy; russia; soros; sovietreunion; ukraine; ukrainecrisis; ukraineparliment; ukraineriots; ussr2; yanukovych

1 posted on 02/22/2014 3:02:14 AM PST by Trapper6012
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To: Trapper6012

Lots of questions...

When does Yulia get out?

What role will Klitschko have?

What will be the new Crimean policy?

What will be done about bureaucratic corruption (a culture of bribes) and the tax police?

What bone will be tossed to Eastern Ukraine over the language issue?


2 posted on 02/22/2014 3:14:03 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Trapper6012

Just out of curiosity, does the Ukraine have its own nukes?


3 posted on 02/22/2014 3:28:18 AM PST by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: Trapper6012

I wonder if Russia is waiting for the Olympics are over before they roll their tanks in.


4 posted on 02/22/2014 4:08:57 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: Monterrosa-24

I read Yulia was supposed to be released on March 1, but would think given the new and fast changing environment it could be sooner. They are giving tours,showing the inside of his house in Dontesk now, in a orderly way to news people and others. A garage full of cars and boats. They are pulling out boxes of papers as well. Looks like he left with everything still there. This is going to be interesting and fluid for some time. Corruption will take years and likely not fully be absent for a long time. Crimea.. that will be interesting. There are reports that The Voice of America Moscow is reporting that the Russian Duma Foreign Affairs Committee head Aleskei Pushkov is in Kharkiv. So much going on.. I wish Ukraine the best.


5 posted on 02/22/2014 4:18:07 AM PST by Trapper6012
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To: Catmom

It became non-nuke in 1996.


6 posted on 02/22/2014 4:18:15 AM PST by Trapper6012
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To: Trapper6012

Look for Putin to send in the tanks any minute now.


7 posted on 02/22/2014 4:26:36 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Trapper6012

Yanukovych has resigned. The resignation will be read in the Rada shortly. According to Polish FM Sirkorski, Yanukovych will be seeking asylum in Russia.


8 posted on 02/22/2014 4:42:57 AM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Wow


9 posted on 02/22/2014 4:53:54 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Monterrosa-24

0bama went golfing
Kerry is chasing Global Warming Co2 gases for his SodaStream.

You will need to read the foreign news to get your answers


10 posted on 02/22/2014 5:44:44 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: Trapper6012
Pictures of one of the houses on Yanukovych's "private" compound, luxury and excess:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=588219284593317&id=578771165538129

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mezhyhirya_%28residence%29
11 posted on 02/22/2014 5:45:23 AM PST by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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To: wolf78

Yanukovych is the friend of Ukrainian oligarchs. Yanukovych tried to copy Vlad Putin’s system of governance.

Hopefully he has been driven out for good


13 posted on 02/22/2014 5:53:27 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Monterrosa-24

All excellent questions!


14 posted on 02/22/2014 6:23:30 AM PST by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: FBD

Ping!


15 posted on 02/22/2014 6:28:35 AM PST by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad; Trapper6012
Yanukovych has resigned. The resignation will be read in the Rada shortly. According to Polish FM Sirkorski, Yanukovych will be seeking asylum in Russia.

Please keep us updated on this. All we know over here is that Canada beat the USA in hockey and a Russian gal won the ice skating gold medal.

16 posted on 02/22/2014 6:33:20 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Monterrosa-24

Ukraine is bankrupt and the putchists from the poor West who overthrew the elected government with violence cannot run an already bankrupt economy. They will try to loot the wealthier East but this will not be allowed to happen.


17 posted on 02/22/2014 6:42:03 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: dennisw

The freely elected “tyrant” who will be replaced by the equally corrupt person who lost the last free elections. How long before Belorussians and Russians are killed there? I suspect not long.


18 posted on 02/22/2014 6:44:18 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: Uncle Chip

President Denies Resignation, Calls Events A ‘Coup’

In a televised interview, Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich denied reports of his impending resignation resign and called the events in the Ukrainian parliament on Feb. 22 a “coup,” HromadskeTV reported. Yanukovich called the day’s events in Ukraine’s parliament, which appointed a new prime minister, ordered the release of jailed opposition leader Yulia Timoshenko and is reportedly expected to impeach the president, amounted to a coup. He compared the situation to Nazi Germany and said he is doing his best to prevent further bloodshed. Meanwhile, Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski, who spoke with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and U.N. Sec. Gen. Ban Ki Moon, said there has not been a coup and the new prime minister was elected legally. The president has been given 24 hours to sign the 2004 constitution into law, Sikorski said.


19 posted on 02/22/2014 6:46:39 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

NOW would be the time for the US and the EU to help Ukraine with tons of aid and support to bolster this country and bring it into the EU to avoid Putin again being the only one to send them money! the EU and US have stood idly by while Russia sent in their money and goons.

We don’t need to send troops but we do have to support Yulia with economic aid adn public support. Of course our idiot Community Organizer will just do Nothing no doubt.


20 posted on 02/22/2014 6:49:35 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Ukraine is a corrupt black hole. If you pour $50 billion of U.S. aid in, it will all be taken. And we are bankrupt now, $16 Trillion in debt. And the EU is bankrupt.

We cannot try to dictate events throughout the world. That is not a conservative system.


21 posted on 02/22/2014 6:53:13 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: Yorlik803

During the Olympics? Fat chance


22 posted on 02/22/2014 6:55:30 AM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
The gas pipelines running thru the Ukraine from Russia into Western Europe give the Russians some leverage.


24 posted on 02/22/2014 6:59:36 AM PST by kabar
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Roughly speaking, about four out of every six people in Ukraine are ethnic Ukrainian and speak the Ukrainian language. Another one in six is ethnic Russian and speaks Russian. The last one-in-six is ethnic Ukrainian but speaks Russian. This map shows where each of those three major groups tend to live.

Here's why this matters for what's happening in Ukraine now: Since it declared independence in 1991, the country has been politically divided along these ethnic-linguistic lines. In national elections, people from districts dominated by that majority group (Ukrainian-speakers who are ethnically Ukrainian) tend to vote for one candidate. And people from districts with lots of ethnic Russians or Russian-speakers tend to vote for the other candidate.


25 posted on 02/22/2014 7:07:03 AM PST by kabar
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Exactly. What is our national interest in Ukraine? This is a struggle between the EU and Russia. Let them send money.


26 posted on 02/22/2014 7:13:24 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
Déjà vu all over again? Perhaps Putin will claim Eastern Ukraine as part of Russia or at least a separate puppet state.


27 posted on 02/22/2014 7:14:00 AM PST by kabar
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To: wolf78
Pictures of one of the houses on Yanukovych's "private" compound, luxury and excess

So what?

More exactly, how does this help me to understand what I, a natural-born US citizen, should do or not do?

28 posted on 02/22/2014 7:17:47 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: dennisw
Hopefully he has been driven out for good

Like Janos Kadar, he'll be back, with transportation.


29 posted on 02/22/2014 7:23:09 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: kabar

Well one thing is clear from that map — everyone voted for the Viktor.


30 posted on 02/22/2014 7:27:23 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Jim Noble

thanks for the history lesson which Putin is undoubtedly aware of


31 posted on 02/22/2014 7:43:32 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw

It may have been posted on this thread, but I ask you. That lady they just released from jail, which side is she on?


32 posted on 02/22/2014 8:26:43 AM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11))
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Today, U.S. Rep. Ed Royce (R-CA), Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, applauded House passage of H. Res. 447, which calls on all sides in the ongoing confrontation in Ukraine to refrain from violence and to work toward a peaceful resolution of the crisis. The bipartisan legislation, authored by Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY), recently passed the Committee unanimously. Chairman Royce issued the following statement on the legislation’s passage:

Chairman Royce said: “Ukraine’s stability and continued democratic development are important for U.S. national interests. The Ukrainian people’s determination to ensure basic human rights and freedoms has been inspiring. That determination is being demonstrated by the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian citizens who have peacefully taken to the streets in defense of those rights. This protest movement has since become a struggle between those who want a democratic future based on the rule of law for Ukraine and those who are prepared to use violence to turn back the clock. Passage of this resolution comes at a decisive moment in that struggle.”

33 posted on 02/22/2014 9:12:18 AM PST by kabar
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34 posted on 02/22/2014 9:39:28 AM PST by RedMDer
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To: kabar

great maps..thanks.


35 posted on 02/22/2014 10:07:35 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: ColdOne

She is on the side of the protesters.


36 posted on 02/22/2014 10:10:09 AM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: kabar

Victor vs Victor
Good graphics
Thanks


37 posted on 02/22/2014 10:23:05 AM PST by FBD
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To: hoagy62

38 posted on 02/22/2014 10:32:15 AM PST by kabar
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To: hoagy62

Thanks


39 posted on 02/22/2014 10:36:27 AM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11))
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To: Jim Noble

“More exactly, how does this help me to understand what I, a natural-born US citizen, should do or not do?”

You don’t have to do a damn thing. You don’t even have to pay attention to any of this. Just go about your business and maybe watch some olympics coverage.


40 posted on 02/22/2014 11:30:14 AM PST by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war alwaysmeans failure.")
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To: kabar

Based on Ukraine’s demographics and politics and religion it looks like a divided Ukraine is in its future.


41 posted on 02/22/2014 12:09:15 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

The Russians are the other shoe waiting to drop, probably after the Olympics.


42 posted on 02/22/2014 1:42:09 PM PST by kabar
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To: castlegreyskull; All

It was a master stroke if the factions waited for the distraction of the Olympics to make their move. Putin could move the tanks in after the Olympics but the revolutionists have their blood up now and they will be harder than massed 3 week embedded ticks to clean out.


43 posted on 02/22/2014 3:35:47 PM PST by mdmathis6 (American Christians can help America best by remembering that we are Heaven's citizens first!)
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To: mdmathis6
but the revolutionists have their blood up now and they will be harder than massed 3 week embedded ticks to clean out

If the Wehrmacht ca. 1942 got their asses handed to them, the "revolutionists" aren't going to present much of a problem.

44 posted on 02/22/2014 6:50:24 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: kabar
The closing ceremony is in 13 hours and 6 minutes.

I can practically hear the tanks warming up here on the East coast.

45 posted on 02/22/2014 6:52:54 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: mdmathis6

Is that anything like dug in like an Alabama tick?


46 posted on 02/23/2014 6:59:32 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

The Alabama tick will probably be the hardest to dislodge!


47 posted on 02/23/2014 8:45:16 AM PST by mdmathis6 (American Christians can help America best by remembering that we are Heaven's citizens first!)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Give this a read. It’s by a Canadian who lives in Kiev

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/on-the-maidan-the-birth-of-a-real-ukrainian-civil-society/article17025424/


48 posted on 02/23/2014 9:40:33 PM PST by FBD
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

What money do you propose ‘we” send?” Last I checked, we were bankrupt, with $200 trillion in debt (counting unfunded liabilities, according to non-corrupt financial experts)


49 posted on 02/24/2014 11:10:50 AM PST by ResisTyr ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God " ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ResisTyr

Good point....this situation is indicative of how we have mismanaged our money...wonder if we even have enough money to defend ourselves while we squander trillians.


50 posted on 02/24/2014 3:50:54 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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