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The U.S. Middle Class Is Turning Proletarian
New Geography ^ | February 16, 2014 | Joel Kotkin

Posted on 02/20/2014 12:46:02 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I have yet to hear one of the kool-aid drinking free trade crowd give me a logical reason as to why China, who has missiles pointed at us, should get the same trade treatment as Japan, who is a steadfast ally.


41 posted on 02/20/2014 5:40:13 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: central_va

true!!!


42 posted on 02/20/2014 5:43:41 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Vigilanteman

Japan holds as much US Treasuries as China. One trillion dolars or so. They do this as a favor to us, due to us defending them against China. Under George Bush this works. Under Obama this quid pro quo is unreliable


43 posted on 02/20/2014 5:47:45 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Vigilanteman

When a hot war comes with China and/or Russia the “Free Traitors” will be hanging foirm the light poles everywhere.


44 posted on 02/20/2014 6:09:46 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DH

Do away with withholding and make everybody write a quarterly check like the self employed do, that would change some minds. Also set up the tax code so ANYBODY/EVERYBODY who works pays something. No more 47-50% with no skin in the game.


45 posted on 02/20/2014 6:12:31 AM PST by redangus
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To: Gen.Blather

Exactly! There is a severe lack of trust of government. Why take the risk when at any time some agency will descend upon you? Especially when you are not of the ‘right mind’. See GM dealers who lean Republican that were closed by ‘restructuring’ from the Bailout.
Some people just look the other way.


46 posted on 02/20/2014 6:15:08 AM PST by griswold3 (Post-Christian America is living on borrowed moral heritage)
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To: Fee

All true. Meanwhile, the runaway proliferation of law and regulation buries the small business person and stacks the deck against him in favor of big companies. Estate taxes force the sale of family farms to the benefit of big corporate farming.

The Democratic Party and Establishment Republicans are fully deserving of any horrible, painful, miserable demise that the American people can deliver on them.


47 posted on 02/20/2014 6:26:14 AM PST by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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To: Tax-chick

Actually that means to me, the sort of investment which is currently (and has been going, for the last two decades at least) to Asia.

Everyone is sending investments to Asia.

For an entire generation, everyone has been selling out America.

America won the second world war, and is now selling out everything to Asia.

Everything.

We won the war, and we’re now losing.

It is absurd, but it is true.


48 posted on 02/20/2014 6:43:24 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: central_va

Tell that to Chrysler.


49 posted on 02/20/2014 7:52:47 AM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of ingtheir political choices.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Liberal democrats are destroying the middle class.


50 posted on 02/20/2014 8:07:13 AM PST by GOPJ ( America's drifting into totalitarianism because the left's exploitation of social failures.Greenfi)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think thats the plan Stan. The fundamental transformation of America. In five short years Bam and company have nearly destroyed the middle class.

Why do you think Barry never looks upset or stressed out about the unemployment? Thats the plan. Everybody on the dole and/or working 29 hours per week.


51 posted on 02/20/2014 9:03:43 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: cunning_fish

its the goal of the elites to make themselves further elites...period...people with money want more of it and they don’t care if billions in the world go hungry to do it....


52 posted on 02/20/2014 11:48:50 AM PST by cherry
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To: knarf
I always thought the working class WAS middle class.

Exactly.

53 posted on 02/20/2014 1:42:18 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Jack Hammer
You want to know why the economy is in the tank? It’s because that’s precisely where Obama wants it.

Bump. Someone gets it.

54 posted on 02/20/2014 5:36:59 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is very little “middle class” left. It is either up or down. Not much in between any more.


55 posted on 02/20/2014 5:37:58 PM PST by RetiredArmy (God's judgment on America is here for us to see. If America does not wake up, it is going to suffer)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Reign in the FedGov taxing and regulatory burden, those jobs will come flooding back...

Until then, ain’t nothing coming back


56 posted on 02/20/2014 5:57:11 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: lentulusgracchus

The problem is, where are the Republicans?

Republicans really need to start advocating for Americans once again.

For over an entire generation, we have been sending American jobs elsewhere.

Bring them back. Now.

GOP do something. Stop stalling, and stop sitting on the sidelines.


57 posted on 02/20/2014 7:23:38 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The early decades of the Industrial Revolution saw a similar societal decline, as once independent artisans and farmers became fodder for the factory lines.

The author is actually describing the later stages of the Industrial Revolution, circa 1840, that culminated in the revolutionary year of 1848 and the penning of the Communist Manifesto. In that Marx and Engels predicted the increasing immiseration of the proletariat, decreasing profits, decreasing productivity, increasing illiteracy (by definition the real proletariat is illiterate) - none of these things took place. Instead, the proletariat became more literate - literate workers need less training - profits increased, production increased, and the proletariat as classically defined were wiped out by class mobility, becoming the despised petit bourgeoisie, which is really what the modern working class is. Proletarians don't own cars, TVs, or union pension funds.

Marx and Engels were right about one thing: a petit bourgeoisie so invested in capitalism because it was what had increased their quality of life, was a massive barrier against revolution that made the same promises (and never brought them to pass, but that was for the future to reveal).

It's still the case. The middle class, which is, actually, the taxable working class in America, must die in order for another model to flourish, the Marxist model, where a wealthy ruling class doles out largesse to the impoverished masses who by their very dependency cannot say "no". To effect this death the current ruling class must redistribute the income of the middle class to the dependent classes, purchasing the support of the latter while permanently addicting them to the payments. Progressives stoutly deny the existence of this ruling class while not so secretly yearning to join it. "They intend to rule wisely, but they intend to rule."

It is in this sense, I think, that the author intends the statement that the middle class is "turning" - it is actually being turned - "Proletarian", that is, is being impoverished, marginalized, demonized, and forced into dependency. I am inclined to believe that no set of economic programs will be enough to stop this sort of deliberately induced decay, that on the contrary, the most likely strategy to stop it is to strike at its promoters, discredit, disempower, and disenfranchise those who are causing it. That is a necessarily political act; it may be a necessarily violent act as well. The author is too polite to point this out. I am not.

58 posted on 02/20/2014 7:45:45 PM PST by Billthedrill
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