Posted on 02/18/2014 9:47:33 PM PST by neverdem
You've got to be kidding me! NO, stockpiling arms in our homes is NOT the only thing that matters! So you want us to effectively be prisoners in our homes? When the government finishes disbanding the constitution and goes completely lawless, and turns against us, we can cower in our homes but not walk outside to work, grocery store, or the doctor's office, or even to effectively defend ourselves against lawless government troops coming to take us to prison because we are too conservative, too white, are Christians, etc, all because we can't defend ourselves? That is EXACTLY what the 2nd amendment was written for!
How DARE you say it is okay to put such a limitation on our 2nd amendment rights. YOU know NOTHING about our constitution and natural law!!
Go on back to DU and spout your liberal lies there, or better yet, learn American History and meditate on it until you see the light
I think we could use some of Travis McGee's great 2nd amendment images on this thread.
All Americans should have 1) ignored ANY infringement of their rights, and 2) should have worked ceaselessly to impeach and disbar or some other censure against any lawmakers or judges who ever wrote any law to the contrary.
Stick to your guns–no matter what!
by Matt Bracken
If they come to take away your guns by force, they have declared war on the Constitution, and on you. At that point, war is joined, just as it was during another famous gun confiscation raid on April 19, 1775.
If a firearm was legal in 2012, under the 2nd Amendment it’s still legal in 2013 and it will be legal forever, no matter what so-called “executive orders” are handed down or new “laws” are passed by a panicking Congress. Those who say otherwise are liars and traitors and oath breakers and domestic enemies.
Every survivor of every genocide says the same thing: when they come to take your guns, shoot them! Make them take them, and their system of repression will be overwhelmed, because they don’t have millions of jack-booted thugs ready to do armed battles all over the country.
If you give up your arms, you are placing your entire trust in the permanent future benevolence of the U.S. government. This trust is invariably fatal: ask the American Indians about those treaties that were guaranteed forever.
History is clear, with numerous examples, of the danger of gun registration and gun control. The German gun registration laws were enacted duuring the 1920s Weimar Republic, years before Hitler came to power. German gun registration was mandated in the name of “public safety.” Note that phrase well. I’m sure today’s liberal utopians would agree that they were “common sense” and “reasonable” gun control laws. Don’t we all want “public safety?”
Then Hitler rose to power, and used the gun registration lists to first disarm the Jews, and then to force them into starving, overcrowded ghettos, and finally into mass graves and gas chambers. The Nazi genocide of the Jews was enabled by those “common sense” German gun registration lists.
Millions of Polish Jews were rounded up by German military police battallions. The German military police only needed a 1-10 ratio to their victims. A mere 100 German military police, (4-Fs in their forties, bottom of the barrel conscripts, not rabid SS), would round up and murder a town of a thousand Jews over the course of one day.
The Germans would force them to sit tightly packed together on town plazas or sporting fields under the watch of only a handful of armed guards. The Germans would then march groups of twenty or thirty at a time at gunpoint into the woods for point-blank executions. A 1-10 ratio means the military police were not worried at all about meeting resistance. The victims were all previously disarmed.
During the Armenian Genocide from 1915-23, two million Christian Turks were exterminated by being marched at gun point into burning deserts with no food or water. The Turkish gun registration laws were enacted in 1911, in the name of “public safety.” The genocide began a few years later, after the Armenians’ firearms were confiscated.
Entire divisions of Russian troops hiked home from WW1 in 1917/18, carrying their rifles and swords and other sidearms. Very early on, Lenin decreed that “public safety” required they all be turned in, under penalty of death. And so the Russian war veterans were disarmed—but not the Communist Party members. Then came the Soviet purges, the Great Terror, the Gulags, and tens of millions of disarmed Russians were murdered.
I’m sorry, but I do NOT trust that our federal government won’t turn as brutally tyrannical as the old USSR at some point in the future, perhaps after an economic crash or other major crisis. The Obama regime already perceives that we “Bitter Clingers” are “reactionaries” who are not only standing in the way of social progress, we are actively blocking it.
That makes us pure Evil, since their plan for a socialist utopia is pure Good. And that means they will ultimately come to feel totally justified in seeking a “final solution to the Bitter Clinger problem,” in the same way that the Turks, Soviets and Nazis did. Can anyone guarantee Americans that tyranny will never visit our shores?
If the socialists in power are scapegoating us as national villains now, what will they do when they have no reason to fear us whatsoever? Did the Turks, Soviets or Nazis treat their despised minorities better, or worse, after disarming them? Think!
And once a despot’s enemies (that’s us) are disarmed and helpless…the temptation grows to simply do away with them. Obama mentor and ghost-autobiographer, the Weather Underground bomber Bill Ayers, stated that they would need to murder ten percent of the American population to achieve their socialist nirvana. Thirty million bitter clingers. Guess who that is?
Don’t relearn this bitter lesson the hard way. Learn from history’s many examples. As it was for the Turkish Armenians, German Jews, Russian Kulaks, Chinese, Ugandans, Guatemalens, Cambodians, Cubans, Rwandans, and on and on, history’s lesson is crystal clear:
Stick to your guns–no matter what!
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you’d be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur — what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!”
~~Alexander Solzhenitsyn
“. I don’t know by what idiocy anyone would think “...keep and bear arms...” in any way was restricted to just the domicile.”
Or to personal protection for that matter. The right to
bear arms is there to keep the government in check. It’s
our personal right as an individual sovereign citizen that
gives us the right to protect our selves and our neighbors
rights, life and property. It’s our civic duty.
Alan Gottlieb was talking with the guys on the Armed American Radio show about this last Sunday.
He said that there are three circuit rulings against the second amendment, and two rulings in support of it. Which almost forces the SCOTUS to hear the Drake case in New Jersey.
If they do, and rule for freedom, it will be a huge setback against gun haters.
Yesterday a McDonald’s was robbed in Houston. You can see the thugs push a woman to the floor and her little child run to her arms. One employee was shot in the stomach because he was backing up fast enough. It’s too bad there wasn’t a few customers in there with CCW permits.
The right to bear arms shall not be infringed. Thats all I need to know.
Actually, I think this is a brilliant point. The libs are always caterwauling about the rights of the homeless. They have a right to health care, shelter, and the right to vote. Since they don't have a home, how can they be denied the right to self defense that home owners have?
That's true, but the justices are aware of public opinion, and they very rarely go against it. The Second Amendment is approved by about 70% or more of the public in at least two fairly recent polls.
It is time to understand the USSC is a lawless bunch who rule for political and devilish reasons.
After Traitor Robert’s “opinion” on 0bamaDontCare, who cares what the SC says about anything.
Check my comment# 51.
i reject your premise that having arms againt a tyrranical govt is “the only thing that really matters”.
it is hardly the only thing that really matters. certainly one. one of many. most gun owner uses of weapons outside the home, almost all’of them, are NOT against tyrranical government.
think about it.
“How DARE you say it is okay to put such a limitation on our 2nd amendment rights. YOU know NOTHING about our constitution and natural law!!”
I didn’t say it was okay, I said not good. I was saying that with that ruling, now the court has ruled we can keep arms. I was looking for a silver lining so that you don’t take a friggin heart attack, which I can see you did anyway.
The SCOTUS is an awfully thin line to hold our rights on. I’d prefer a broad base of well educated and active, armed voters.
I believe they're aware of public opinion as presented to them via the media and their personal associations. That's another reason to get the government out of DC and scatter it across the nation.
“Sounds like another constitutional right about to go down the tubes”
It’s an odd situation- the 9th Circuit is the most-overturned by SCOTUS. Now we have to pray this isn’t one of those times, because like a blind pig they finally ruled correctly, in favor of the 2nd Amendment.
Our guns are well hidden. They will never find them or track them and we will use them to save us from slavery— real bad.
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