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February 17, 2014: Supreme Court may rule on guns outside the home, 9:23 p.m. EST
USA TODAY | February 17, 2014 | Richard Wolf

Posted on 02/18/2014 9:47:33 PM PST by neverdem

Here's the link.


TOPICS: US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; alangura; banglist; guncontrol; scotus; secondamendment; youwillnotdisarmus
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Alan Gura, of Heller and McDonald fame, has an appeal from folks in NJ as well, Drake v. Jerejian.
1 posted on 02/18/2014 9:47:34 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I don’t care what they say. The constitution and natural law tell me what’s what.


2 posted on 02/18/2014 9:50:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: neverdem

Sounds like another constitutional right about to go down the tubes.


3 posted on 02/18/2014 9:51:21 PM PST by doc1019
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To: neverdem
None of those cases directly raises the next big legal issue in the national debate over guns: whether the right to keep a gun at home for self-defense extends to public places.

I'm in a public place, therefore my right to self defense is in a public place. I don't know by what idiocy anyone would think "...keep and bear arms..." in any way was restricted to just the domicile.

4 posted on 02/18/2014 9:53:13 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: doc1019

Only if it’s not asserted.


5 posted on 02/18/2014 9:53:27 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: neverdem
"the right to keep a gun at home for self-defense"

Where in the second amendment does it say "at home" or "self defense"?

6 posted on 02/18/2014 9:56:59 PM PST by matthew fuller (The GOP is dead- Long Live the TEA Party!)
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BANG!
7 posted on 02/18/2014 9:57:59 PM PST by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: matthew fuller

Says nothing of the sort. It instead says “shall not be infringed”, which means the SCOTUS becomes lawless if they rule against that law.


8 posted on 02/18/2014 10:10:29 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Be prepared for a ruling to screw us. Just saying.


9 posted on 02/18/2014 10:12:13 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Supreme Court defined what such rights were just before the Civil War.

Dred Scott vs Sanford.
What the SCOTUS thought about gun control in the pre Civil War era.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0060_0393_ZO.html

It would give to persons of the negro race, who were recognised as citizens in any one State of the Union, the right to enter every other State whenever they pleased, singly or in companies, without pass or passport, and without obstruction, to sojourn there as long as they pleased, to go where they pleased at every hour of the day or night without molestation, unless they committed some violation of law for which a white man would be punished;

and it would give them the full liberty of speech in public and in private upon all subjects upon which its own citizens might speak; to hold public meetings upon political affairs,

and to KEEP AND CARRY ARMS wherever they went.


10 posted on 02/18/2014 10:13:18 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Hah. “Settled law”, right?


11 posted on 02/18/2014 10:15:48 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: doc1019

Sure does. Now we know why DHS has 1.6 billion hollow points at the ready.


12 posted on 02/18/2014 10:23:32 PM PST by Paulie (Buy local, bank local, exert your influence locally; the left will fold like a cheap suit.)
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To: Paulie
Now we know why DHS has 1.6 billion hollow points at the ready.

Saves running to the store when they have to abandon them.

13 posted on 02/18/2014 10:27:13 PM PST by Myrddin
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Now we know why DHS has 1.6 billion hollow points at the ready.

Saves running to the store when they have to abandon them.

14 posted on 02/18/2014 10:27:38 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: ThunderSleeps
I don't know by what idiocy anyone would think "...keep and bear arms..." in any way was restricted to just the domicile.

Ask and ye shall receive:


15 posted on 02/18/2014 10:32:36 PM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: matthew fuller

That was Scalia and crew with Heller. They helped put limitations on gun ‘rights’.


16 posted on 02/18/2014 10:36:59 PM PST by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: neverdem

The Narrative of Thomas Mellen, 1848 - aged 92
Survivor of The Battle of Bennington Aug. 16,1777:

“I enlisted,” said he, “at Francestown NH in Colonel Stickney’s regiment and Captain Clark’s company, as soon as I learned that Stark would accept the command of the State troops; six or seven others from the same town joined the army at the same time. We marched forthwith to Number Four and stayed there a week. Meantime I received a horn of powder and run two or three hundred bullets. I HAD MY OWN GUN.”
[my caps]
“History of Newbury, Vermont: From the Discovery of the Coös Country to the Present Time”
edited by Frederic Palmer Well, 1902


17 posted on 02/18/2014 10:37:00 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The constitution and natural law tell me what’s what.

Word.
18 posted on 02/18/2014 10:39:34 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: neverdem

Are we to be instructed that the right of self defense is conditioned on one’s location?


19 posted on 02/18/2014 10:45:17 PM PST by Elsiejay (in)
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To: doc1019

I wouldn’t be so sure. To assert that the right to self defense is legitimate inside but not outside of one’s house would deny the fundamental civil right to homeless people, renters, and travellers. I don’t think they can make that case and remain legitimate.


20 posted on 02/18/2014 10:49:35 PM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement)
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