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Ukrainian riot police charge protesters after nation's bloodiest day, death toll rises to 18
New York Daily News ^ | 02/18/2014

Posted on 02/18/2014 5:06:12 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Fire rages and petrol bombs fly through the air as riot police crackdown on the demonstrations against President Viktor Yanukovich in Kiev's Independence Square. At least eighteen people — including seven policemen and 11 protesters — were killed and hundreds more were injured during clashes in Kiev on Tuesday.

Fire rages and petrol bombs fly through the air as riot police crackdown on the demonstrations against President Viktor Yanukovich in Kiev's Independence Square.

At least eighteen people — including seven policemen and 11 protesters — were killed and hundreds more were injured during clashes in Kiev on Tuesday.

Many were killed by gunshot and hundreds more were injured, with dozens of them in a serious condition, police and opposition representatives said.

Despite Western demands for restraint and dialogue, the state security service first set a deadline for the demonstrators to end disorder or face "tough measures", and then the police advanced into Independence Square, the center of the protest campaign.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Russia
KEYWORDS: kiev; kievriot; protest; riot; russia; ukraine
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To: SeekAndFind; All

I am so confused by all the Russian Drama.....

I know that some of the dissidents in the former Soviet Union are muslim radicals. I thought the Ukraine had had some modicum of freedom but then their last elections put some of Putin’s buddies back in power (at least I think that’s what happened....since news doesn’t cover it much anymore I may be wrong).

I guess my question is this: am I cheering for the rebels in this case or not?


21 posted on 02/18/2014 7:47:17 PM PST by Nifster
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To: freeandfreezing

I think there’s no going back now. Everyone will pick a side and it’ll snowball from there.


22 posted on 02/18/2014 7:48:09 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2553565094001/violent-clashes-between-police-protesters-in-ukraine/#sp=watch-live

I have no idea what is going on


23 posted on 02/18/2014 7:48:26 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Soros is a billionaire getting government handouts...


24 posted on 02/18/2014 7:48:52 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Leo Carpathian

See now that’s what I thought but I am having a hard time finding anything news wise (even foreign press) that gives me a hint as to who the rebels are.

Maybe that’s my clue though huh? Since the lefty press (and pretty much all of them are) doesn’t want to talk about the uprising in the Ukraine it must be because the good guys are doing the uprising


25 posted on 02/18/2014 7:50:36 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

I’ve read several accounts of “protestors” being hired and bused in, and there are accounts of merceneries on the protestors’ side now. THe protestors want EU so that is commie stuff.

There doesn’t seem to be a “good” side. The protestors are sort of like Occupukes. But maybe not all are. The protestors are getting very violent. They think they can get violent and no one will hit ‘em back?


26 posted on 02/18/2014 7:50:40 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: cherry

What do you mean no one??? The only people who can sit in Congress. Articles of Impeachemtn have been drawn; now the trick is to get them introduced and voted upon


27 posted on 02/18/2014 7:51:51 PM PST by Nifster
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To: boxlunch

The EU is involved and the EU is commie. So where is the “good” side?


28 posted on 02/18/2014 7:53:02 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

The history of the Ukraine is a difficult one. The only reason they fell under Soviet rule is because they were starved to death until they submitted. There has always been a dissident’s heart in the Ukraine. Many managed to escape during the Hungarian uprising in 56. After the fall the Ukraine should signs of being a stabilizing and somewhat democratic influence in the are.

They want the EU because they think it will bring them economic outlets AND more importantly (and unrealistically) defense by those in NATO


29 posted on 02/18/2014 7:56:33 PM PST by Nifster
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To: little jeremiah

Just exactly where and how is the EU involved?

And to be factual the EU is not communist.


30 posted on 02/18/2014 7:58:09 PM PST by Nifster
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To: AppyPappy

Where were you when those same police were randomly targeting opposition leaders and torturing them to death?


31 posted on 02/18/2014 7:59:07 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: little jeremiah

The actual real people, who are mostly at home, going to work, raising their children, etc.

They’ve been enslaved to the new world order “team” called the Eastern bloc.

Now the new world order “team” called the Western block is covertly trying to take this neighborhood as its territory.

It’s like the Gambinos fighting the Bonannos over who will get a “cut” of everybody’s paycheck.

The good guys are not part of either outfit; the bulk of the population who really have no real voice.


32 posted on 02/18/2014 7:59:24 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: boxlunch

He doesn’t understand


33 posted on 02/18/2014 7:59:46 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: little jeremiah

The Scoboda types hate Commies.

Very doubtful they’d cotton to that for long.


34 posted on 02/18/2014 8:00:05 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: little jeremiah

The protestors want the EU, the government wants closer ties to Russia.


35 posted on 02/18/2014 8:00:48 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Dead Corpse

Pos autocorrect... Svoboda...

Svoboda is known for its anti-Communist stance, and several party activists over the years have been accused of trying to destroy Communist-era statues.[84][85][86][87][88]
On February 16, 2013, police in Ukraine opened a criminal case on charges of hooliganism against nationalist activists lead by Svoboda Supreme Rada deputy Ihor Miroshnychenko for the dismantling of a statue of Vladimir Lenin in Okhtyrka, Sumy Oblast. “There is no place for Communist symbols and ideology in European Ukraine and if the authorities cannot get rid of them, we will do it ourselves”, said Miroshnychenko. According to police, Miroshnychenko climbed the statue and put a rope around Lenin’s figure, which was then pulled down by a truck.[89]


36 posted on 02/18/2014 8:01:32 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: PieterCasparzen

That’s what I figured.


37 posted on 02/18/2014 8:02:38 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Nifster
They want the EU because they think it will bring them economic outlets AND more importantly (and unrealistically) defense by those in NATO

Only the top nations of the EU economically are not faring poorly.

Ukraine would be yet another backward nation - compared to the Germanys, Switzerlands, Frances, etc.

IMHO, the reports of Ukraine "wanting" to join the EU are solely due to ongoing Soros and other Western operations inside the Ukraine.

I posted a thread with an article from rt.com from 2011 that predicted this was going to happen, and that Soros was a major mover.

Color Revolutions...
38 posted on 02/18/2014 8:04:28 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: SeekAndFind

Its the Sluzhba Bezpeky Ukrayiny - SBU - Ukraine’s version of Russia’s FSB that is the successor to the Soviet era KGB. The authorities can also call out the Internal Troops to suppress riots and disorders.


39 posted on 02/18/2014 8:10:18 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: PieterCasparzen

I have difficulty accepting Russia Today as a valid source of my information. They are about as reliable as the NYSlimes


40 posted on 02/18/2014 8:13:41 PM PST by Nifster
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